Dave Kushner in? Maybe so...

[OscarAxl22]

I don't see the need for a 3rd guitar, and if Izzy is out (other than guest spots here and there) I am am hoping for Richard... He is really the one member of the CD era lineup that I really sort of 'fell in love with' for lack of a better description...

I don't either, especially with Dizzy and Chris but that's the way it's been for along time now with Axl and if this "reunion" is gonna fly, compromises will be made.

Like I said above, it's all about Slash and Axl sharing a stage again, whoever else fills out the lineup are footnotes.

Footnotes for who? You?

it makes a difference for some of us who makes up the rest of the band beyond Axl & Slash. Otherwise we wouldn't be here discussing it in threads like this.

[OscarAxl22]

no 3 guitar shit.

Slash with Richard or bring back Gilby, let Izzy show up when he feels like it and play.

This.

Why is 3 needed again? Someone make a good case for it cause I don't see a need for it.

Slash + Izzy

Failing that
Slash + Richard

Or at a push Slash + Gilby

[kaasupoltin]

no 3 guitar shit.

Slash with Richard or bring back Gilby, let Izzy show up when he feels like it and play.

This.

Why is 3 needed again? Someone make a good case for it cause I don't see a need for it.

Because of the guitar arrangements on CD? I think that is a great use case. Of course they can be arranged to fit whatever is wanted/needed and it would be interesting to hear those songs with a new touch, but that's not up to me or anyone outside the band to decide.

[Princess Leia]

no 3 guitar shit.

Slash with Richard or bring back Gilby, let Izzy show up when he feels like it and play.

This.

Why is 3 needed again? Someone make a good case for it cause I don't see a need for it.

Slash + Izzy

Failing that
Slash + Richard

Or at a push Slash + Gilby

Pretty much agree, although for me Richard would be the last resort. I mean if they ask Izzy and Gilby and both say no. Well then somebody has to do the job.

Why Gilby over Richard? Gilby was part of the UYI Tour era. It would look more like a reunion. And Gilby still performs from time to time with Slash, Duff and Sorum. If I?m not mistaken I think he has even play with Adler a couple of times.

[ice cream sand pig]

^booo, fuuuck that.     richards been in the band for 14 years, loyal as all hell. it would be ridiculous to replace him with gilby just because gilby played the illusions tours. the casuals wouldnt consider it more of a reunion just because of gilby, they wouldnt even know who he is.

[Princess Leia]

^booo, fuuuck that.     richards been in the band for 14 years, loyal as all hell. it would be ridiculous to replace him with gilby just because gilby played the illusions tours. the casuals wouldnt consider it more of a reunion just because of gilby, they wouldnt even know who he is.

And the casuals would consider it more of a reunion with Richard? They wouldn?t know who Richard is either.

[Ringoturtle]

^booo, fuuuck that.     richards been in the band for 14 years, loyal as all hell. it would be ridiculous to replace him with gilby just because gilby played the illusions tours. the casuals wouldnt consider it more of a reunion just because of gilby, they wouldnt even know who he is.

And the casuals would consider it more of a reunion with Richard? They wouldn?t know who Richard is either.

I hope for two guitarists. soo much cooler. most people who are refering to the NEED of 3 guitarists because of the CD-tracks wouldn't even notice any difference.

[sandman]

i'm down with 3 guitarists. didn't Axl say at one point that some AFD songs had 3 guitars layered into the song, so there were actually some limitations with playing them live back in the day?

Dave always seemed like a cool dude. I liked VR and thought his playing was solid. live performances you barely noticed him. he just stayed off to the side doing his thing. if he fills that role, fine by me. I think a 3rd guitarist adds to the power of the sound, which will be important in stadiums.

obviously, I'd much rather it be Izzy involved (with Fortus being the add-on). it'll be disappointing if he is not heavily involved in some way.

as for Gilby, he was a touring member on one of the biggest rock tours of all time. I guess I'd rather he be involved because of his history as a touring member, but i'm not losing any sleep over it. if Axl/Slash/Duff prefer Kushner, that works for me.   

[faldor]

^booo, fuuuck that.     richards been in the band for 14 years, loyal as all hell. it would be ridiculous to replace him with gilby just because gilby played the illusions tours. the casuals wouldnt consider it more of a reunion just because of gilby, they wouldnt even know who he is.

And the casuals would consider it more of a reunion with Richard? They wouldn?t know who Richard is either.

It would be a mix of old and new and maybe Axl would feel like it's more of a step forward, then backward. In the sense of creating new music. If memory serves me correctly, Gilby was let go because Axl wasn't thrilled with his song writing capabilities. Maybe he likes Richard better in that respect. Heck, if this Kushner rumor has any truth to it maybe he even prefers to take a shot with him over Gilby because of that reason as well.

[Princess Leia]

^booo, fuuuck that.     richards been in the band for 14 years, loyal as all hell. it would be ridiculous to replace him with gilby just because gilby played the illusions tours. the casuals wouldnt consider it more of a reunion just because of gilby, they wouldnt even know who he is.

And the casuals would consider it more of a reunion with Richard? They wouldn?t know who Richard is either.

It would be a mix of old and new and maybe Axl would feel like it's more of a step forward, then backward. In the sense of creating new music. If memory serves me correctly, Gilby was let go because Axl wasn't thrilled with his song writing capabilities. Maybe he likes Richard better in that respect. Heck, if this Kushner rumor has any truth to it maybe he even prefers to take a shot with him over Gilby because of that reason as well.

Anything is posible, specially if we are talking about GN?R. However there is something called common sense. Kurshner never was a GN?R member. In fact he got lucky to be in Velver Revolver with Slash and Duff. Because Izzy walked away from The Project as they used to call it in the early days.

If the issue is sogwriting then  Slash and Duff could call him eventually if they need help. But right now we?re talking about a tour

[GeorgeSteele]

I'm not sure of the history with VR, but why was Gilby not involved with that?  Did Slash prefer Dave over Gilby and maybe that's still true now?

[faldor]

^booo, fuuuck that.     richards been in the band for 14 years, loyal as all hell. it would be ridiculous to replace him with gilby just because gilby played the illusions tours. the casuals wouldnt consider it more of a reunion just because of gilby, they wouldnt even know who he is.

And the casuals would consider it more of a reunion with Richard? They wouldn?t know who Richard is either.

It would be a mix of old and new and maybe Axl would feel like it's more of a step forward, then backward. In the sense of creating new music. If memory serves me correctly, Gilby was let go because Axl wasn't thrilled with his song writing capabilities. Maybe he likes Richard better in that respect. Heck, if this Kushner rumor has any truth to it maybe he even prefers to take a shot with him over Gilby because of that reason as well.

Anything is posible, specially if we are talking about GN?R. However there is something called common sense. Kurshner never was a GN?R member. In fact he got lucky to be in Velver Revolver with Slash and Duff. Because Izzy walked away from The Project as they used to call it in the early days.

If the issue is sogwriting then  Slash and Duff could call him eventually if they need help. But right now we?re talking about a tour

I agree, which is why I don't get why Kushner would be involved. Unless of course, Axl doesn't want to view it as a full reunion, more of a mini reunion mixed with modern members. And in that case he may want a 3rd guitarist to continue his vision of "moving forward". Maybe Axl would view the addition of Gilby would lean more towards a reunion, and again that may not be his preference. I'm just thinking out loud here.

[Wooody]

^booo, fuuuck that.     richards been in the band for 14 years, loyal as all hell. it would be ridiculous to replace him with gilby just because gilby played the illusions tours. the casuals wouldnt consider it more of a reunion just because of gilby, they wouldnt even know who he is.

And the casuals would consider it more of a reunion with Richard? They wouldn?t know who Richard is either.

It would be a mix of old and new and maybe Axl would feel like it's more of a step forward, then backward. In the sense of creating new music. If memory serves me correctly, Gilby was let go because Axl wasn't thrilled with his song writing capabilities. Maybe he likes Richard better in that respect. Heck, if this Kushner rumor has any truth to it maybe he even prefers to take a shot with him over Gilby because of that reason as well.

But Richard doesnt really write does he ? No credits on CD.

Btw, I still prefer Richard over Gilby.

[faldor]

^booo, fuuuck that.     richards been in the band for 14 years, loyal as all hell. it would be ridiculous to replace him with gilby just because gilby played the illusions tours. the casuals wouldnt consider it more of a reunion just because of gilby, they wouldnt even know who he is.

And the casuals would consider it more of a reunion with Richard? They wouldn?t know who Richard is either.

It would be a mix of old and new and maybe Axl would feel like it's more of a step forward, then backward. In the sense of creating new music. If memory serves me correctly, Gilby was let go because Axl wasn't thrilled with his song writing capabilities. Maybe he likes Richard better in that respect. Heck, if this Kushner rumor has any truth to it maybe he even prefers to take a shot with him over Gilby because of that reason as well.

But Richard doesnt really write does he ? No credits on CD.

Btw, I still prefer Richard over Gilby.

I believe he commented how CD was basically written when he joined the band, so no he didn't have a big part in writing songs for CD. But maybe he's done a lot of work on the follow up. Again, things we don't really know. Just trying to make sense of these rumors.

[jarmo]

But Richard doesnt really write does he ? No credits on CD.

I think he wrote some guitar parts, at least I remember him saying that.




/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

This whole Dave Kushner idea has gotten more traction than I thought....


Guess we will find out soon enough.

[stephan]

https://twitter.com/davekushner66/status/683759123205234689?lang=nl

[younggunner]

I really dont think Kushner is in the band.

[jamillos22]

Haven?t read the whole thread, but:
I don?t think 3 guitarists are needed, but even if they decide to have them, why the hell would Kushner be there? It?s Slash, Izzy/Gilby, and Richard. I believe both Gilby and Richard would make themselves available for this. Dave never played in GN?R, what would be the point in preferring him over any ex-Gunner?

[Sickthings3]

The point of Dave could be a request of Slash and Duff. They may (and this is me just talking out of my ass) feel out numbered by the members of Guns now that they are joining (Axl, Richard, Frank, MotherGoose, and Dizzy) that they may want a say in someone else.

I don't think they need 3 guitarists, but it does sound cool as hell live and if it means CD songs being played, I'm all for it. Plus, Axl knows Guns better then I do so I'll just go to the show and enjoy it!