So is Tommy in or out (your opinions)?

[sky dog]

yep yep yep.....he said he was open to talking about it...guarantee you he would consider it. He would be an idiot not to. The Replacements are essentially done as well and his solo career will not carry the day financially.

Last I checked and let's be honest, there is no lineup right now. Speculation from people who really have little to no idea what could be going on.

[Ginger King]

Tommy was pretty clearly talking about the band in the past tense.  And was speaking in a very looking back reflectively manner.

That's why I think its a stretch to say he's still in the fold.

That's true.
But also, that could change with short notice if his services were needed. Don't you think?

/jarmo

Anything can change.  The question here is whether Tommy's in or out.  Based on his (past tense) comments, it's pretty clear he's out.  I guess you could say he's out, subject to considering being back in if asked. 

[D-GenerationX]

That's true.
But also, that could change with short notice if his services were needed. Don't you think?

I guess.  But he's also down 2 guitarists.  I have no clue who fills those slots, but I know it will not be DJ, Ron, Robin, or Bucket.

[gnredwing]

In or out of what? There is no band at this point in time! Ashba-Gone. Thal-Gone. Oh, Dizzy Reed and Pittman are still in the band, that makes for a great band! 

[sky dog]

Well, there are a lot of people in these fictitious lineups. Duff is back! Who said that? Did Duff or Axl say that? Slash is back because him and Axl are civil. Really?

A reunion is happening because promoters are offering money for it? Really? That has happened for YEARS!

The whole thing has become ridiculous. 

[pilferk]

In or out of what? There is no band at this point in time! Ashba-Gone. Thal-Gone. Oh, Dizzy Reed and Pittman are still in the band, that makes for a great band! 

Thats sort of circular, chicken/egg thinking, there, though.

If there's nothing to join, then there can never be a band, ever...if, by your logic, they are only a band when all the spots are full.

Because you can't join something, to fill those spots, if that thing doesn't exist.

Yes...we have created: Inception!

[D-GenerationX]

What about this?

Anyone asked to join the band now is presumably going to ask if there is anything to these reunion rumors, right?

Would the fact they would even be looking for members to join suggest there is no reunion?  Or, is the fact they aren't looking (as far as we know) suggest that it is?

[pilferk]

What about this?

Anyone asked to join the band now is presumably going to ask if there is anything to these reunion rumors, right?

Would the fact they would even be looking for members to join suggest there is no reunion?  Or, is the fact they aren't looking (as far as we know) suggest that it is?

I don't know...we didn't hear about them "looking for replacements"..no pun intended... (though we assumed they were) till BBF walked on stage in NYC.

We knew about DJ AFTER he joined.

I don't recall hearing much, since Bucket left, about GnR doing "try outs".  And when we have heard about stuff, it's been WELL after the fact, and pretty much after the spot they auditioned for was already filled.

I don't think "no news" is an indication either way, on that particular front.

[TheBaconman]

What about this?

Anyone asked to join the band now is presumably going to ask if there is anything to these reunion rumors, right?

Would the fact they would even be looking for members to join suggest there is no reunion?  Or, is the fact they aren't looking (as far as we know) suggest that it is?

You are talking about hired musicians.   Why would they care?

"Hey so and so, would you like to join guns n roses for 20 date summe fall tour in 2016.   You can play guitar.  There is no expectation for you to continue on in the future or record any new music with us.  If there is work past these dates, we will let you know"

I think there are thousands of guitar players that would jump at this chance

There is a huge difference between being a hired band Berber, a touring band member and a full time band member

If there is plans for a future reunion,  but Axl wants to tour and play some shows prior to that.  He could easily hire some touring musicians.  

There would be no point hiring band members, only to have a reunion in the future.   That may happen after the reunion.  Or if the reunion goes good.  It won't happen at all

[pilferk]

What about this?

Anyone asked to join the band now is presumably going to ask if there is anything to these reunion rumors, right?

Would the fact they would even be looking for members to join suggest there is no reunion?  Or, is the fact they aren't looking (as far as we know) suggest that it is?

You are talking about hired musicians.   Why would they care?

"Hey so and so, would you like to join guns n roses for 20 date summe fall tour in 2016.   You can play guitar.  There is no expectation for you to continue on in the future or record any new music with us.  If there is work past these dates, we will let you know"

I think there are thousands of guitar players that would jump at this chance

There is a huge difference between being a hired band Berber, a touring band member and a full time band member

If there is plans for a future reunion,  but Axl wants to tour and play some shows prior to that.  He could easily hire some touring musicians.  

There would be no point hiring band members, only to have a reunion in the future.   That may happen after the reunion.  Or if the reunion goes good.  It won't happen at all

I would also offer up, if there is a planned reunion in, say, 2017...and Axl wants GnR to tour in 2016...there is NO EARTHLY WAY, IMHO, he can tell people about the future reunion plans.  Not promoters, not fans, not media...NOBODY (OK, except the inner circle/keeper of the secrets).  Because every single person is going to make decisions based on that future reunion plan.  IMHO, he'd sell less tickets, have less promoter interest, and the ONLY thing any media would want to discuss would be the future reunion plans. 

[JAEBALL]

What about this?

Anyone asked to join the band now is presumably going to ask if there is anything to these reunion rumors, right?

Would the fact they would even be looking for members to join suggest there is no reunion?  Or, is the fact they aren't looking (as far as we know) suggest that it is?

You are talking about hired musicians.   Why would they care?

"Hey so and so, would you like to join guns n roses for 20 date summe fall tour in 2016.   You can play guitar.  There is no expectation for you to continue on in the future or record any new music with us.  If there is work past these dates, we will let you know"

I think there are thousands of guitar players that would jump at this chance

There is a huge difference between being a hired band Berber, a touring band member and a full time band member

If there is plans for a future reunion,  but Axl wants to tour and play some shows prior to that.  He could easily hire some touring musicians.  

There would be no point hiring band members, only to have a reunion in the future.   That may happen after the reunion.  Or if the reunion goes good.  It won't happen at all

I would also offer up, if there is a planned reunion in, say, 2017...and Axl wants GnR to tour in 2016...there is NO EARTHLY WAY, IMHO, he can tell people about the future reunion plans.  Not promoters, not fans, not media...NOBODY (OK, except the inner circle/keeper of the secrets).  Because every single person is going to make decisions based on that future reunion plan.  IMHO, he'd sell less tickets, have less promoter interest, and the ONLY thing any media would want to discuss would be the future reunion plans. 

I don't buy for a second they could even be considering doing that....

[Tongue-like-a-razor]

If all of this ends up with two New guys on guitar: Harry Whatshisnameagain & Neil Neverheardofhim - The band will never rise to its former glory. Only the inclusion of two of the original and WELL KNOWN band members can make that happen.

[pilferk]

I don't buy for a second they could even be considering doing that....

I don't discount anything, anymore.

I agree to some extent, though...it's not the scenario (regardless of the dirt sheet rumors) I think most likely.

[pilferk]

If all of this ends up with two New guys on guitar: Harry Whatshisnameagain & Neil Neverheardofhim - The band will never rise to its former glory. Only the inclusion of two of the original and WELL KNOWN band members can make that happen.

See, the assumption here is that "rising to it's former glory" is what Axl's all about, and what his intent is.

I'm not sure that's a safe assumption, reunion or no.

[D-GenerationX]

If all of this ends up with two New guys on guitar: Harry Whatshisnameagain & Neil Neverheardofhim - The band will never rise to its former glory. Only the inclusion of two of the original and WELL KNOWN band members can make that happen.

Yeah, but that has been the case for the past 15 years.  Few outside of us even entertain the motion they are on that level with replacement parts.  And even amongst us, its hardly universal.

If he rolls out 2 more randos, I assume its to do Appetite For Residency III : Still Hungry

And if that's the case, the two guys can be anyone, literally anyone.

[The Wight Gunner]

if the old GNR reunites.... where do I sign up for the wait of the New GNR reunion?

I come and yell 'where's buckethead' with u.

Hahahaha

In Axl's ass, I assume.

 

Another question will be if you guys show up wearing a Buckethead shirt. Will Axl call Mr Security man to kick you out?

 

Nah! Axl loves Bucket, there's a clip of a KFC hitting the LOndon O2 stage, King Dick didn't stamp on it 

[EmilyGNR]

If all of this ends up with two New guys on guitar: Harry Whatshisnameagain & Neil Neverheardofhim - The band will never rise to its former glory. Only the inclusion of two of the original and WELL KNOWN band members can make that happen.

See, the assumption here is that "rising to it's former glory" is what Axl's all about, and what his intent is.

I'm not sure that's a safe assumption, reunion or no.

Definitely this ^^ good point.

Also, the music landscape and Industry as well as society is vastly different than  in the late 80's early 90's- there have been sweeping changes, and not for the better IMO.

The people longing for "former glory" may want to take this into consideration- people don't even listen to entire albums anymore.

[Wooody]

If all of this ends up with two New guys on guitar: Harry Whatshisnameagain & Neil Neverheardofhim - The band will never rise to its former glory. Only the inclusion of two of the original and WELL KNOWN band members can make that happen.

See, the assumption here is that "rising to it's former glory" is what Axl's all about, and what his intent is.

I'm not sure that's a safe assumption, reunion or no.

I think it was at a certain moment, but not anymore.

[D-GenerationX]

Axl may not let getting back in the spotlight dominate his motivations, but I wouldn't totally discount them either.

I just want to make sure we don't get too entranced by how he's the artiest artist that was ever artful, and be so wrapped up in keeping that street cred going, that we could totally dismiss what is a natural human feeling.

[OscarAxl22]

If all of this ends up with two New guys on guitar: Harry Whatshisnameagain & Neil Neverheardofhim - The band will never rise to its former glory. Only the inclusion of two of the original and WELL KNOWN band members can make that happen.

See, the assumption here is that "rising to it's former glory" is what Axl's all about, and what his intent is.

I'm not sure that's a safe assumption, reunion or no.

Definitely this ^^ good point.

Also, the music landscape and Industry as well as society is vastly different than  in the late 80's early 90's- there have been sweeping changes, and not for the better IMO.

The people longing for "former glory" may want to take this into consideration- people don't even listen to entire albums anymore.

This point here is extremely under-stated in todays music landscape.