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[D-GenerationX]

Cherry, I think you are 100% wrong. I think Jarmo supports Guns in whatever capacity Axl sees fit.

I concur.

[D-GenerationX]

I dont think Jarmo hates Slash or Duff.... but i sure as shit think he prefers the CD era to anything that came before it.

He will dispute this of course, but his day to day behavior on here lends itself to that school of thought for sure.

Oh, I don't think that at all.

He supports whatever Axl is doing.  He's said as much.  And if that's the most recent set of line-ups, he's all about it.

But if Axl came out tomorrow and said he was reuniting the AFD line-up, he's be right on board with that too.

Think of it more like this.  He's the ultimate case of "living in the present".

Whatever happens to come down, and whatever is going on at the time, he will support.

I see no real evidence he supports one line-up over another.

[HBK]

Cherry, I think you are 100% wrong. I think Jarmo supports Guns in whatever capacity Axl sees fit.

I think hes got a point.

I dont think Jarmo hates Slash or Duff.... but i sure as shit think he prefers the CD era to anything that came before it.

He will dispute this of course, but his day to day behavior on here lends itself to that school of thought for sure.

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[sky dog]

too funny

[HBK]

too funny

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[OscarAxl22]

too funny

This Guys Is Amazing

 

If you could put together one legible sentence that would help.

Thanks.

[jarmo]

No, post your theory why I 'hate GN'R'. It would honestly somehow explain why I spent money on GN'R CDs, DVDs, and concert tickets over the years, defended Axl on numerous boards and have done my best to get others to love the band. But, by all means, go ahead. By the way, I never claimed you hate GN'R as a whole. It is simply my belief that you hate Slash and Duff and don't want to see a reunion, and that you would do anything in your power to stop it from happening as you fear a reunion would erase the last 15 or so years.

It just appeared to me.
It doesn't make a lot of sense. But who cares right?

I'll just label you as a guy who hates all things GN'R.
You're doing the same to me, it's only fair that the roles can be reversed.
That's a joke by the way. Like your theory.

" It is simply my belief that you hate Slash and Duff and don't want to see a reunion, and that you would do anything in your power to stop it from happening as you fear a reunion would erase the last 15 or so years."  

Did you read that out loud when you typed it? Holy shit.
Ok, let's assume you were right. What power?  

By the way, you're wrong. So so wrong...

Have you ever tried erasing history? How did that go for you?

I dont think Jarmo hates Slash or Duff.... but i sure as shit think he prefers the CD era to anything that came before it.

He will dispute this of course, but his day to day behavior on here lends itself to that school of thought for sure.

That is some funny stuff.
Here's a clue: There's not a GN'R release I dislike or don't listen to.

Guilty of being a fan!  




/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

too funny

This Guys Is Amazing

 

If you could put together one legible sentence that would help.

Thanks.

Careful with that sort of thing.  I don't think English is his first language. 

Be reasonable.  How would you do on a board in a different language?

[OscarAxl22]

I dont think Jarmo hates Slash or Duff.... but i sure as shit think he prefers the CD era to anything that came before it.

He will dispute this of course, but his day to day behavior on here lends itself to that school of thought for sure.

Oh, I don't think that at all.

He supports whatever Axl is doing.  He's said as much.  And if that's the most recent set of line-ups, he's all about it.

But if Axl came out tomorrow and said he was reuniting the AFD line-up, he's be right on board with that too.

Think of it more like this.  He's the ultimate case of "living in the present".

Whatever happens to come down, and whatever is going on at the time, he will support.

I see no real evidence he supports one line-up over another.

Ill agree with half of that....

I think there has been more than a fair share of anti-slash sentiment on here from regular posters.

But i do agree that Jarmo would be down with anything Axl did going forward... my statement was regarding the fact i do believe he prefers the CD era to anything that came before it..

I mean.. FFS... the CD cover is on the front of the webpage.. why isnt it accompanied by the other albums?  

[OscarAxl22]

too funny

This Guys Is Amazing

 

If you could put together one legible sentence that would help.

Thanks.

Careful with that sort of thing.  I don't think English is his first language. 

Be reasonable.  How would you do on a board in a different language?

If he can give out shit... i think its only fair he takes it when it comes back? Or is that not a reasonable notion?

[D-GenerationX]

I think mocking someone for their posting style if English is not their first language is pretty out of line.

[jarmo]

But i do agree that Jarmo would be down with anything Axl did going forward... my statement was regarding the fact i do believe he prefers the CD era to anything that came before it..

I mean.. FFS... the CD cover is on the front of the webpage.. why isnt it accompanied by the other albums?  

Because it is the latest studio release and also a big part of the site's history. You might not be aware of this, but back in the day, people used to go to fan sites to find news about that album.
Before forums and so on existed.

Edited to add: Before the Chinese thing there, I had the Illusion guy in that spot. If that makes you feel better!

The rest of the albums are under Discography in chronological order.  

If he can give out shit... i think its only fair he takes it when it comes back? Or is that not a reasonable notion?

Come on.



/jarmo

[EmilyGNR]

I think mocking someone for their posting style if English is not their first language is pretty out of line.

Seconded, completely out of line.

[HBK]

too funny

This Guys Is Amazing

 

If you could put together one legible sentence that would help.

Thanks.

Sorry, I Am From Planet J?piter

 

[jarmo]

Sorry, I Am From Planet J?piter

 

I thought it was Planet Finck..... 



/jarmo

[CherryGarcia]

It just appeared to me.
It doesn't make a lot of sense. But who cares right?

I'll just label you as a guy who hates all things GN'R.
You're doing the same to me, it's only fair that the roles can be reversed.
That's a joke by the way. Like your theory.

Fair enough.

Did you read that out loud when you typed it? Holy shit.
Ok, let's assume you were right. What power?  

By the way, you're wrong. So so wrong...

Have you ever tried erasing history? How did that go for you?

By 'power', dude, you're tight with Team Brazil. Axl's management team. By proxy, you're tight with Axl and his camp. Who I will admit I honestly do not trust very much. Marc Canter, who was friends to both Slash and Axl for decades, has said things to the effect that "Beta increased Axl's hatred of Slash" and "Beta hates Slash even more than Axl does", "Beta thinks Slash is evil." Why should I trust someone who hates one of the key components in a possible reunion to not do something to sabotage it from happening? If people around me hated my ex-girlfriend and felt my ex-girlfriend was "evil", I wouldn't see them being supportive of me say getting back with her, to use an analogy.

As for 'erasing the past'...Not literally, obviously. But do you deny that a reunion could potentially eclipse what Axl has been doing since 1996? As D-GX has said, people in the public/mainstream/casual fans would go "Thank God real GN'R is back"/"Thank God that's over". Perhaps "eclipse" the last 15 or so years would be a better choice of words.

Would I be one of those people happy that the "new GN'R" ever is over and done? No. I want both CD II and whatever else was recorded from 1997-present, along with a reunion. I think all eras of GN'R's history should be taken into account when GN'R's history and legacy is considered. I will admit the UYIs are my favorite GN'R albums, but I liked a fair number of songs on CD as well and was actually hoping Axl would take the sound more experimental than the final product. Rhiad, OMG, Shackler's and Silkworms are among my favorite post 1996 songs. I don't think there's any member since 1985 who lacks merit. Paul Tobias is one of my favorite GN'R members of all time. I love Gilby. I think Robin was underrated and I dearly miss his songwriting in GN'R. It would be a tragedy for CD II not to come out, to stay buried or be cast aside because of a reunion. But it'd also be a tragedy for Axl, Slash, Duff (and hopefully Izzy and Steven/Matt) not to share a stage again or maybe even make new music together. Guns N' Roses were the last genuine and interesting rock band - and all I want is for the band's career to close out on a triumphant high note - not in Vegas with a whimper. I want to see Axl on stage looking lean, mean and like the badass rockstar he once was, tearing through songs with Slash and Duff and possibly the others, ending it all with a triumphant "GOOD, FUCKING, NIGHT!" I don't want the public's last "image" of Axl to be the heavier set, mustachioed guy with iffy vocals we got on the last tours. I want the man's legacy to be everything it can still be.

I want the history books to say: "GN'R's classic lineup got back together, put out a box set which included material from all the band's various lineups and a few brand new singles, and subsequently toured and sold out arenas, pleasing their fans all over the world, in what would be Rock N' Roll's last gasp."

I don't think Axl is this evil dude who "ruined Guns N' Roses". I think he's the most misunderstood man in rock and that the things he does, he does because they seem right to him. I don't think he has a truly malicious bone in his body. I also don't think Slash is some bad guy either. I think both guys have big egos and that each was equal to blame in the break-up of their "marriage."

[D-GenerationX]

Lot of truth in that last post.

[EmilyGNR]

Haters and trolls are the people who say genuinely mean and/or hate-filled stuff about Axl, or spread rumors about him which either belittle or slander him. One troll on another board tried to spread a rumor that Axl was "gay" all over the net and provided people with Del's and Beta's cell numbers freely, for instance, a while back.

Those are extreme and sociopathic cases. Many Trolls simply post statements to intentionally get a rise out of people like you do on a continual basis here.

So, am I, in your eyes, not a GN'R fan or something? Define a "troll"? My words may disturb, but at least there's a reaction. At least what I say gets people talking. It isn't so much about attention for myself, but stirring the pot to get people talking about a band I happen to really love. Axl Rose is my hero. But that doesn't mean I can't disagree with my hero or even be pissed off at him; "Kill your idols" and the general message he was trying to say with that t-shirt; "Don't hail me and don't idolize the ink." I don't think Axl would want anyone blindly kissing his ass, and I don't intend to do that. If I get a rise out of people who will hurt the man by telling him everything he does is okay, even if it is objectively harming his career and legacy, well, that's on you, not on me. I'll call Axl out for making what I see as bad choices, the same way I'll call out the people who are out to destroy his reputation as well. If that makes me a "troll" or a "hater", so be it. But, I evangelize Guns everywhere I go.

Why is it that loyal supportive fans are always accused of "blindly" following, or supposedly enabling career damaging or legacy harming?

You are seriously delusional if you think you "calling Axl out" makes one iota of difference in the grand scheme of things, that is laughable.

I think you like the attention so you make troll posts and hope to elicit an emotional response, it's creepy 

[jarmo]

By 'power', dude, you're tight with Team Brazil. Axl's management team. By proxy, you're tight with Axl and his camp. Who I will admit I honestly do not trust very much. Marc Canter, who was friends to both Slash and Axl for decades, has said things to the effect that "Beta increased Axl's hatred of Slash" and "Beta hates Slash even more than Axl does", "Beta thinks Slash is evil." Why should I trust someone who hates one of the key components in a possible reunion to not do something to sabotage it from happening? If people around me hated my ex-girlfriend and felt my ex-girlfriend was "evil", I wouldn't see them being supportive of me say getting back with her, to use an analogy.

Not really, but...
You choose to put a lot of faith into one person's opinion for some reason.
At least you admit your bias, which probably explains why you'd believe anybody who says anything to fuel that bias even more.

In my experience, you gotta be careful what you believe, especially when you don't know what makes people say things. Also in cases when the person is described with "was friends with....".
Just saying I'd be a bit more careful about believing everything as facts....

As for 'erasing the past'...Not literally, obviously. But do you deny that a reunion could potentially eclipse what Axl has been doing since 1996? As D-GX has said, people in the public/mainstream/casual fans would go "Thank God real GN'R is back"/"Thank God that's over". Perhaps "eclipse" the last 15 or so years would be a better choice of words.

I'm not denying anything.  No matter how much you claim I hate the old band, I never even denied what they accomplished.
To me, the different eras of the band, it's not about competition. One over the other, or whatever. I've enjoyed all of it.

Great times, great memories. And I think there's more to come.


 


/jarmo

[HBK]

I think mocking someone for their posting style if English is not their first language is pretty out of line.

Seconded, completely out of line.

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