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Quote from: D-GenerationX on November 23, 2015, 08:46:24 PM
Quote from: AHUGEAxlFan on November 23, 2015, 08:27:21 PM
I'd love to see an 2001-2010 live Chinese democracy your era album.
Will the gnr fanbase ever be happy?!
Me too, because I don't have nearly as many from that time. Either with great sound, or just in total.
2010 is especially weak on soundboards that got out.
Very true. I think we really should've seen a proshot (much like rio 2011) in 2010. Great year but nothing really good to replay on. Those who got to see them on tour had a good time.
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The show in London with Duff in October is not totally terrible.
That one the MYGNR guys put together from 12.07.2010 was decent.
Bucharest, in September. Also good sounding.
But some soundboards of that early Canadian leg would have been great. Great setlists.
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i always thought live era was awesome. ill admit im not really in the know about bootlegs though, maybe i wouldnt like it as much if it was obvious to me that it was edited a lot.
i loved its alright. they took a below average song and turned it into something really awesome.
spaghetti incident i could kind of take or leave. the vocals are great, musicianship is good, songs are pretty catchy. i agree with what a previous poster said though, in that id rather have heard more rock covers. would have been great to hear some zeppelin floyd or doors covers. i bet modern gnr could do some crazy studio covers of those bands.
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on November 23, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
Quote from: sky dog on November 23, 2015, 06:09:38 PM
most alleged live records have tons of editing and manipulating....
Oh, no doubt. I'd say they all do.
But I own many of these concerts. So I know just how manipulated they are. Fake crowd noise is one thing, but completely re-recorded vocals should never be considered.
Some touch up overdubbing, OK. But songs like 'My Michelle, 'Pretty Tied Up', 'Estranged'...these are totally new vocals. That don't sound a thing like the source material.
Did the band ever own up to re-recording vocals, adding crowd noise, etc.? If so, what was their rational? So many good shows from that era...what was the need to re-do vocals?
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honestly the highlight for me on live era was axl doing It's Alright I love his take on it I even heard on an interview with Bill Ward a while back I forget who it was with but complimented axl's version of it.
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Totally have always loved It's alright too.
Never knew the vocals were rerecorded.
And Robin sings on Live era!? That's crazy.
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The show in London with Duff in October is not totally terrible.
Ha! You can't even give GNR a compliment on a good show "not totally terrible"
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Some people don't seem to understand that TSI was not intended to be the "next classic GN'R album" and bash it just because they wanted to see an original album. The band said it; it is something they had fun with and something they just wanted to do and put out there. For what it is, I think it is an awesome and especially FUN album. Of course you can't compare a cover album with original albums, but why would you want to? It's not that serious
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Quote from: kaasupoltin on November 24, 2015, 03:16:39 AM
Some people don't seem to understand that TSI was not intended to be the "next classic GN'R album" and bash it just because they wanted to see an original album. The band said it; it is something they had fun with and something they just wanted to do and put out there. For what it is, I think it is an awesome and especially FUN album. Of course you can't compare a cover album with original albums, but why would you want to? It's not that serious
I remember Axl stating, before UYI was released, that they had 2 albums coming out, a soundtrack for Terminator 2 and a covers album..Apparently the covers album was remixed with Gilby, but not sure what happened to the T2 material..
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Quote from: dont_damn_me on November 24, 2015, 12:03:01 AM
And Robin sings on Live era!? That's crazy.
My guess is no. But its a possibility.
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Quote from: LIGuns on November 24, 2015, 07:24:37 AM
Quote from: kaasupoltin on November 24, 2015, 03:16:39 AM
Some people don't seem to understand that TSI was not intended to be the "next classic GN'R album" and bash it just because they wanted to see an original album. The band said it; it is something they had fun with and something they just wanted to do and put out there. For what it is, I think it is an awesome and especially FUN album. Of course you can't compare a cover album with original albums, but why would you want to? It's not that serious
I remember Axl stating, before UYI was released, that they had 2 albums coming out, a soundtrack for Terminator 2 and a covers album..Apparently the covers album was remixed with Gilby, but not sure what happened to the T2 material..
Id guess that the Terminator soundtrack would have got only You Could Be Mine.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 03:02:09 AM
Quote from: D-GenerationX on November 23, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
The show in London with Duff in October is not totally terrible.
Ha! You can't even give GNR a compliment on a good show "not totally terrible"
LOLZ
The entire post, and larger conversation it was a part of, was about sound quality of the bootleg, my dear.
Read it again. Out loud if it helps. No one is judging.
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Live Era is awesome. I adore that cover of It's Alright.
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I remember buying both CDs on release day from an actual record store.....
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The show in London with Duff in October is not totally terrible.
Ha! You can't even give GNR a compliment on a good show "not totally terrible"
LOLZ
The entire post, and larger conversation it was a part of, was about sound quality of the bootleg, my dear.
Read it again. Out loud if it helps. No one is judging.
I've only seen you toss out maybe two halfhearted compliments to GNR- Ever.
Read that again. Out loud if it helps. No one is judging you because people can look up your post history and see you clearly are either bitter, butthurt or projecting.
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Quote from: kaasupoltin on November 24, 2015, 03:16:39 AM
Some people don't seem to understand that TSI was not intended to be the "next classic GN'R album" and bash it just because they wanted to see an original album. The band said it; it is something they had fun with and something they just wanted to do and put out there. For what it is, I think it is an awesome and especially FUN album. Of course you can't compare a cover album with original albums, but why would you want to? It's not that serious
Many of the tracks were recorded with original Guns N' Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin during the Use Your Illusion I and II sessions and then were later re-recorded with Gilby Clarke. Those tracks were previously intended to be included in a combined Use Your Illusion album, consisting of three (or possibly four) discs, instead of the two separate discs they ended up being.
In 1992, the band prepared to release the leftover cover tracks as an EP, with Gilby Clarke replacing Stradlin's guitar tracks. They later decided on making the album a full release and recorded several more tracks for it.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 09:01:06 AM
I've only seen you toss out maybe two halfhearted compliments to GNR- Ever.
Read that again. Out loud if it helps. No one is judging you because people can look up your post history and see you clearly are either bitter, butthurt or projecting.
Yeah, good talk.
But, we are in agreement that the conversation you so excitedly jumped into to was about sound quality of bootlegs, yes?
Just want to be sure. You rather ducked addressing that.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 09:01:06 AM
I've only seen you toss out maybe two halfhearted compliments to GNR- Ever.
Read that again. Out loud if it helps. No one is judging you because people can look up your post history and see you clearly are either bitter, butthurt or projecting.
Yeah, good talk.
But, we are in agreement that the conversation you so excitedly jumped into to was about sound quality of bootlegs, yes?
Just want to be sure. You rather ducked addressing that.
Yeah good talk.
You rather ducked addressing my point as well. Care to point out specific instances of you saying something positive about the band? Once or twice maybe-at a stretch and those isolated instances are far outnumbered by your various whines, complaints, amateur advice etc. ad nauseum.
Post history doesn't lie.
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Well, that's two cracks you've had at copping to it. You are obviously dug in to try and save whatever face you can, however you can.
No matter. We can all read what's right up there. I (incorrectly, it seems) just thought you might step up.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 09:09:35 AM
Many of the tracks were recorded with original Guns N' Roses guitarist Izzy Stradlin during the Use Your Illusion I and II sessions and then were later re-recorded with Gilby Clarke. Those tracks were previously intended to be included in a combined Use Your Illusion album, consisting of three (or possibly four) discs, instead of the two separate discs they ended up being.
In 1992, the band prepared to release the leftover cover tracks as an EP, with Gilby Clarke replacing Stradlin's guitar tracks. They later decided on making the album a full release and recorded several more tracks for it.
As far as I remember (!!) they were talking about a "Punk EP" before the Use Your Illusions were released. Then it got expanded with other songs and became a cover album.
Gilby claims he didn't erase Izzy's parts. But then he says he kinda did?
A lot of people think I erased Izzy's parts. That's actually not true. Izzy didn't play on a lot of them, so I got to just put my parts on songs that were recorded. So it was a little bit of both. It was a little bit working with Mike Clink [The Spaghetti Incident? co-producer], just myself and him, and then some of it was the whole band in there recording together.
http://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/gilby_clarke/
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