Chinese Democracy - 7 years today

[AHUGEAxlFan]

Its in the same ballpark as estranged, don't cry, this I love, November Rain.

[D-GenerationX]

It was great. I like there was a time more but it comes close.

2 most impressive songs of the 14, I think.

[EmilyGNR]

I had several friends fall in love with This I Love.  And I pissed off a lot of people on this forum thinking it should have been featured in one of the TWILIGHT sequels 

That one bombed with my crowd.  From Dad (the first person I played the album for) right on through everyone else.

Heard it all.  Andrew Lloyd Webber arrangement, juvenile lyrics, etc.




Even I, myself, waver on what I think of it.

How were the lyrics "Juvenile" ??

Yes. If you don't care for the song that's ok.  But I don't know how you can call
Such haunting lyrics juvenile.   I think the song was brilliant.  Music of the night meets
November Rain and Estranged. 

I agree, even the musical composition by itself is brilliant as well, the song is truly a masterpiece. 

[Annie]

How were the lyrics "Juvenile" ??

He sounded like a heartbroken teenager trying to be deep.

I don't mean to be rude but you have obviously never known great love.  And this love doesn't necessarily have to be romantic.  The song is very deep.  You can hear it in Axls voice.  Was so awesome to hear it performed at the Golden Gods.

[D-GenerationX]

I don't mean to be rude but you have obviously never known great love.  And this love doesn't necessarily have to be romantic.  The song is very deep.  You can hear it in Axls voice.  Was so awesome to hear it performed at the Golden Gods.

Yeah, I'm just not a guy that ever considers whole bands or individual songs to be downright religious experiences.

When I hear people talk about how a song moved them to tears, or how they feel a deep connection with some band that helped them get up in the mornings...I have to be honest, I pretty much roll my eyes.

I love 'Estranged', for example.  But its because I love Slash's guitar work and I think Axl wrote some great lyrics and delivered them in a fine vocal.  Yet I have heard fans wax downright poetic about how the song changed their lives or some such.

If that works for you, hey, great.  I just can't really relate on that level because a song is just a song to me.  I either like it or I don't.  I don't really get wrapped up in the spiritual journey of it all.

[sky dog]

Estranged is my fav Gnr song...hands down....TIL is great because it shows Axl's depth as an artist.....on one hand he is Johnny Rotten, on another hand he is Freddie Mercury, on another hand he is Steven Tyler...then there is TIL...don't really know what that is but it certainly shows Axl has balls and isn't afraid to show his vulnerability.

[AHUGEAxlFan]

I like this I love. If I could change anything, I would change Axl hitting the high notes, it should just be like his talking voice or voice he uses on its so easy/brownstone for example. Which he does use throughout most the song. Also I'd put more drums and guitar. Lyrics rock, horns rock, piano rocks... Awesome

[D-GenerationX]

I like this I love. If I could change anything, I would change Axl hitting the high notes, it should just be like his talking voice or voice he uses on its so easy/brownstone for example. Which he does use throughout most the song. Also I'd put more drums and guitar. Lyrics rock, horns rock, piano rocks... Awesome

Totally agree with that.  I think the verses sound way better than the chorus.

[jarmo]

TIL is great because it shows Axl's depth as an artist.....on one hand he is Johnny Rotten, on another hand he is Freddie Mercury, on another hand he is Steven Tyler...then there is TIL...don't really know what that is but it certainly shows Axl has balls and isn't afraid to show his vulnerability.

Yeah. That's one of the cool things about him. He's not in one particular box or confined to one genre.
It's never boring.


/jarmo

[Ginger King]

TIL is great because it shows Axl's depth as an artist.....on one hand he is Johnny Rotten, on another hand he is Freddie Mercury, on another hand he is Steven Tyler...then there is TIL...don't really know what that is but it certainly shows Axl has balls and isn't afraid to show his vulnerability.

Yeah. That's one of the cool things about him. He's not in one particular box or confined to one genre.
It's never boring.


/jarmo

No doubt about that.  He can never be pigeon-holed into one type of sound/style...just look at how many people freak out when you try to say GnR is hair metal.  There are elements of everything (rock, hair metal (gasp), blues, industrial, etc.), and he has the ability to pull them all off at an incredible high rate.  I can think of no other performer that can (successfully) straddle as many styles as he does.  That's why my hopes are still up that we'll get to hear CDII someday.  It'd be great to hear that range on a bunch of new songs.

[HBK]

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- CHINESE DEMOCRACY - VERSION 1 -

 

[dont_damn_me]

Iv been listening to CD a lot lately after years of not listening to it at all and Iv been enjoying it more than ever. I relate to the songs differently from seven years ago.  I hope we get CD2 at some point.

[raindogs70]

Was Axl working on new music for a follow up when Chinese Democracy was released and just decided to shelve it once CD dropped off the charts, or was he trying to get Robin's replacement? It's weird that he didn't want to be seen at the time. I guess he was practically living in the studio trying to get all those songs out, but didn't pan out the way he wanted.

[raindog]

Iv been listening to CD a lot lately after years of not listening to it at all and Iv been enjoying it more than ever. I relate to the songs differently from seven years ago.  I hope we get CD2 at some point.

Certainly since 2012 or so, the chance of ever hearing the rest of CD seems to have stopped getting closer and started going the other way. Just seems like Axl lost interest.

[jarmo]

Certainly since 2012 or so, the chance of ever hearing the rest of CD seems to have stopped getting closer and started going the other way. Just seems like Axl lost interest.

Funny, because in the latest interview he's given, he talked about that very subject. That was in 2014.




/jarmo

[raindog]

Certainly since 2012 or so, the chance of ever hearing the rest of CD seems to have stopped getting closer and started going the other way. Just seems like Axl lost interest.

Funny, because in the latest interview he's given, he talked about that very subject. That was in 2014.




/jarmo

A. He didn't say CD2 was coming out or that has was doing anything with those sessions. He said that as far as a new album goes he was 'looking seriously what he was doing in that regard', which is essentially a completely meaningless statement that could mean anything from 'I'm going to look through the files and put an album together' to 'I'm going to write new songs with the current band' to 'I'm ultimately going to decide not to bother at all'.

And

B. So what? Even if he had specifically said "I'm putting out the rest of the CD sessions", he alluded to doing the same thing within a year or so back in 2008. So you're saying CD2 is closer than it was when it seemed to be a year away....7 years ago?

Ok dude  Sorry, I was talking about real, visible progress, not the 'one album, tour a year, drop the next one', '2-3 albums', '2-3 new songs on the next tour', 'news in 2-3 months' nonsense that got old years ago. And just to clarify, progress in this context would mean, say, a single. A song played live. Clips. A title. A release date. Half of the people involved in the recordings not having given up and left. That sort of thing.

[AHUGEAxlFan]

Certainly since 2012 or so, the chance of ever hearing the rest of CD seems to have stopped getting closer and started going the other way. Just seems like Axl lost interest.

Funny, because in the latest interview he's given, he talked about that very subject. That was in 2014.




/jarmo

A. He didn't say CD2 was coming out or that has was doing anything with those sessions. He said that as far as a new album goes he was 'looking seriously what he was doing in that regard', which is essentially a completely meaningless statement that could mean anything from 'I'm going to look through the files and put an album together' to 'I'm going to write new songs with the current band' to 'I'm ultimately going to decide not to bother at all'.

And

B. So what? Even if he had specifically said "I'm putting out the rest of the CD sessions", he alluded to doing the same thing within a year or so back in 2008. So you're saying CD2 is closer than it was when it seemed to be a year away....7 years ago?

Ok dude  Sorry, I was talking about real, visible progress, not the 'one album, tour a year, drop the next one', '2-3 albums', '2-3 new songs on the next tour', 'news in 2-3 months' nonsense that got old years ago. And just to clarify, progress in this context would mean, say, a single. A song played live. Clips. A title. A release date. Half of the people involved in the recordings not having given up and left. That sort of thing.

Half the members have left? I didn't know gnr has only 4 members. If he said a release date, it most likely wouldn't be accurate, but when he does give one I'm sure it will be close to the time they announce it. Although, I do agree, they should've played something live in 2014, but knowing Bumblefoot would be leaving, what's the point? Nobody wants to watch some dude who's about to leave play a solo that will be played by someone else soon.

[AHUGEAxlFan]

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- CHINESE DEMOCRACY - VERSION 1 -

 

There was a thread about this on GNRTRUTH awhile back when I used to view there, I'm also curious of what that is

[jarmo]

Ok dude  Sorry, I was talking about real, visible progress, not the 'one album, tour a year, drop the next one', '2-3 albums', '2-3 new songs on the next tour', 'news in 2-3 months' nonsense that got old years ago. And just to clarify, progress in this context would mean, say, a single. A song played live. Clips. A title. A release date. Half of the people involved in the recordings not having given up and left. That sort of thing.

Well yeah. There hasn't been a single out between 2012 and now. That's a correct observation.

There's a lot of assumptions being made when this subject is discussed. Some of them aren't even based on any facts....




/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

There's a lot of assumptions being made when this subject is discussed. Some of them aren't even based on any facts....

Like how he's hard at work on it, you mean?

Funny how the baseless speculation tag never gets hung on that well worn chestnut.

He says (18 months ago mind you) he's going to get to work, then by god, that guy is getting to work!  You just heard him say it.

Everyone that leaves the band says they haven't written or recorded anything?  Well, don't take that at face value.  Nevermind all that.  Clearly, more to that story we aren't privy to.  And of course, anything unknown totally contradicts what the ex-band members said said to put things in a better light.

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