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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 23, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
Quote from: ComeOnAxl! on November 23, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Seven years and no follow up, Come on Axl!
Seven years and no follow up YET, key word there.
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7 years... my god, time flies!
I will be sincere here. Of course I wanna hear new songs, new album, see the band on tour, AFD or UYI line-up again, etc... but what I really wanna see is an Axl Biography. I think this will explain a lot of things
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The hype is always real downloading or driving to a CD store to buy a new album. Let alone a GN'R album. Makes me excited for the next one!
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Jarmo do you think we will hear the follow up to CD in the next year?
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on November 23, 2015, 02:39:25 PM
A lot of reviews were positive.
Yet many fans perpetuate the myth that people shit on it and didn't give Axl a chance. Really not the case.
i personally have encountered many people (in america) that did not give it a chance. not only because they disapprove of axl continuing on without slash, but also because it sounds too different from their earlier releases. i have met many people that do not like it (in my opinion most of these people have never even heard it and that becomes pretty evident when discussing it with them), and never met a person that loved it before i got them into it.
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Quote from: rj seitz on November 23, 2015, 09:18:06 PM
Quote from: D-GenerationX on November 23, 2015, 02:39:25 PM
A lot of reviews were positive.
Yet many fans perpetuate the myth that people shit on it and didn't give Axl a chance. Really not the case.
i personally have encountered many people (in america) that did not give it a chance. not only because they disapprove of axl continuing on without slash, but also because it sounds too different from their earlier releases. i have met many people that do not like it (in my opinion most of these people have never even heard it and that becomes pretty evident when discussing it with them), and never met a person that loved it before i got them into it.
What I don't get is that when a album doesn't sound like their other albums, that must mean it's bad... Every band has one
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Quote from: rj seitz on November 23, 2015, 09:18:06 PM
i personally have encountered many people (in america) that did not give it a chance. not only because they disapprove of axl continuing on without slash, but also because it sounds too different from their earlier releases. i have met many people that do not like it (in my opinion most of these people have never even heard it and that becomes pretty evident when discussing it with them), and never met a person that loved it before i got them into it.
Oh, people out there? In the world?
I 100% agree. I ran into the same thing with, um...everyone I know. Fans of the band. Didn't find one taker.
But the press, I have to say, were much more even handed than I expected. They did tend to review it on its merits and not stop right at
"Wait, where is Slash? Then fuck this noise."
The odd joke about how the absurd delay, but they gave the music a shot.
Most people were not that accommodating.
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and let's be honest, most people are idiots or just less than casual music fans who really don't give a shit one way or the other about Axl Rose. I don't spend too much time wishing Dave Grohl still played drums.
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Quote from: sky dog on November 24, 2015, 02:23:19 AM
and let's be honest, most people are idiots or just less than casual music fans who really don't give a shit one way or the other about Axl Rose. I don't spend too much time wishing Dave Grohl still played drums.
And I don't go to Foo Fighter forums to complain he doesn't play drums anymore either.
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I got it one day earlier than the Europe release as my colleague was coming from the States the day before. I finished work, went home to the family and by the time my son was going to bed, I said goodbye and drove out of town and headed to the country side while listening to the record. I drove about 100 km that night.
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I still remember running out to Best Buy and purchasing 30 copies for me and Christnas gifts as friends! My TWIHARD friends and I were all totally obsessed with This I Love!!
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Quote from: sky dog on November 24, 2015, 02:23:19 AM
and let's be honest, most people are idiots or just less than casual music fans who really don't give a shit one way or the other about Axl Rose. I don't spend too much time wishing Dave Grohl still played drums.
True.
But suppose Dave replaced every single member of his band and still billed them as Foo Fighters. If there were a segment of their fans that was going to claim legit surprise that people took some issue with it, they would be as disingenuous as the ones that do it amongst our fanbase.
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Quote from: Sweet Child O'DEXTER on November 24, 2015, 08:46:18 AM
I still remember running out to Best Buy and purchasing 30 copies for me and Christnas gifts as friends! My TWIHARD friends and I were all totally obsessed with This I Love!!
I bought several friends a copy so they could experience it as well, and I gave out the album as Xmas gifts to many that year.
I've heard some people cop to making copies to distribute, but that just seemed illegal to me.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 09:49:57 AM
I've heard some people cop to making copies to distribute, but that just seemed illegal to me.
Apparently that's how you support the band you love.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 09:49:57 AM
I've heard some people cop to making copies to distribute, but that just seemed illegal to me.
Apparently that's how you support the band you love.
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Ha! Nothing says support like Piracy
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 09:49:57 AM
I bought several friends a copy so they could experience it as well, and I gave out the album as Xmas gifts to many that year.
I've heard some people cop to making copies to distribute, but that just seemed illegal to me.
Well, maybe these "people" wanted others to hear it and knew damn well they were never going to buy it themselves.
And maybe these "people" assumed (correctly, it turned out) that people were going to use it as a coaster after one listen, if they even gave it that.
So I don't think you can fault "people" for not spending a bunch of money on a lost cause. Maybe these "people" thought if even one person got into it, it was a worthwhile endeavor.
But "people" didn't even find one taker. Not a one. Looks like "people" made the right call.
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on November 24, 2015, 10:23:17 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 09:49:57 AM
I bought several friends a copy so they could experience it as well, and I gave out the album as Xmas gifts to many that year.
I've heard some people cop to making copies to distribute, but that just seemed illegal to me.
Well, maybe these "people" wanted others to hear it and knew damn well they were never going to buy it themselves.
And maybe these "people" assumed (correctly, it turned out) that people were going to use it as a coaster after one listen, if they even gave it that.
So I don't think you can fault "people" for not spending a bunch of money on a lost cause. Maybe these "people" thought if even one person got into it, it was a worthwhile endeavor.
But "people" didn't even find one taker. Not a one. Looks like "people" made the right call.
Struck a nerve there eh?
There is no excuse for Piracy, it is theft- pure and simple- it is not the way to support a band you claim to care about.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 10:30:39 AM
There is no excuse for Piracy, it is theft- pure and simple- it is not the way to support a band you claim to care about.
Me (oh, sorry...I mean "people") buying 10 copies of an album for folks I can't even guarantee will even give it a listen is a foolish cause and a waste of money.
And I'm not sure anyone that did buy 10 copies and hand them out as gifts is going to be getting some lifetime achievement award for band support.
You know, lost in all this sudden concern about piracy...how did you do with your gifts? Lot of converts?
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on November 24, 2015, 10:34:09 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 10:30:39 AM
There is no excuse for Piracy, it is theft- pure and simple- it is not the way to support a band you claim to care about.
Me (oh, sorry...I mean "people") buying 10 copies of an album for folks I can't even guarantee will even give it a listen is a foolish cause and a waste of money.
And I'm not sure anyone that did buy 10 copies and hand them out as gifts is going to be getting some lifetime achievement award for band support.
You know, lost in all this sudden concern about piracy...how did you do with your gifts? Lot of converts?
Buying Albums is a "foolish cause" and "waste of money" ?? What kind of entitlement issues are you harboring?
I'm sure a lot of people who steal things try to justify it as well and try to excuse their behavior.
Not trying to "convert" anyone, merely sharing music LEGALLY from my favorite band.
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on November 24, 2015, 10:38:33 AM
Not trying to "convert" anyone, merely sharing music LEGALLY from my favorite band.
And what were the fruits of that endeavor? Good feedback? People dig it?
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