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« Reply #260 on: January 06, 2016, 01:02:05 PM »

I can't see really passionately arguing Gilby over Richard.  Just don't think it really matters.

At this juncture...no it doesn't.
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« Reply #261 on: January 06, 2016, 01:07:58 PM »

I can't see really passionately arguing Gilby over Richard.  Just don't think it really matters.

At this juncture...no it doesn't.

I'm still not over the miracle that is a Slash/Axl/Duff full on reunion.  How anyone, upon hearing this news, can still go ahead plant their flag in the ground over the likes of Gilby or Adler makes my jaw hit the keyboard every time.
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« Reply #262 on: January 06, 2016, 01:10:15 PM »

I can't see really passionately arguing Gilby over Richard.  Just don't think it really matters.

At this juncture...no it doesn't.

I'm still not over the miracle that is a Slash/Axl/Duff full on reunion.  How anyone, upon hearing this news, can still go ahead plant their flag in the ground over the likes of Gilby or Adler makes my jaw hit the keyboard every time.

Haha.... same boat...

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« Reply #263 on: January 06, 2016, 01:10:37 PM »

Yeah, I get it. You want Gilby instead of the guy who's more like what Izzy is like, if you can't get Izzy.
Only because your videos have Gilby in them. Makes perfect sense.




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Lol! Yeah, that logic is beyond me. Anyone who prefer's Gilby to Richard, or even Adler to Frank is thinking with pure nostalgia at the wheel.  Rooting for an Izzy appearance I can of course understand. He wrote a good chunk of the songs we love, and is still tight with Axl and the rest.  The others?  Guest appearances at best.

I prefer Gilby to Richard and Adler to Frank  peace And yes its purely for nostalgic reasons.  I am not afraid to admit it.

To answer the title of the thread.  I am satisfied with what is going on.  I am satisfied with Axl, Slash & Duff taking the stage together again.  I genuinely thought after the RNRHOF incident that it would never happen.  I mean it when I say this, but I am happy that Axl and Slash are at least communicating with each other.  Whether they are amicable with each other or doing this reunion solely for business reasons I don't care.  Those guys went through too much together to not even talk anymore.  
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« Reply #264 on: January 06, 2016, 01:12:44 PM »

Richard Gilby Adler Sorum Frank....blah. The big fish is and always will be Izzy. Arghhhhh
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« Reply #265 on: January 06, 2016, 01:15:31 PM »

Richard Gilby Adler Sorum Frank....blah. The big fish is and always will be Izzy. Arghhhhh

You can bet he'll be around for a lot the shows and (God willing) tour.  How much is anyone's guess, but I can't see him not taking part in some way. He's really the only "alumni" that I would freak out for anyway if he made an appearance at a show I was attending.
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« Reply #266 on: January 06, 2016, 01:25:20 PM »

There is a reason they haven't announced the full lineup for Coachella....still holding out hope for Izzy playing at least those shows.
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« Reply #267 on: January 06, 2016, 01:43:12 PM »

Im pretty sure they are negotiating with Adler and Izzy at least some guest spots!  peace
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« Reply #268 on: January 06, 2016, 01:43:54 PM »

Yeah, I get it. You want Gilby instead of the guy who's more like what Izzy is like, if you can't get Izzy.
Only because your videos have Gilby in them. Makes perfect sense.




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I fail to see any similarities between Izzy and Richard.

Izzy wrote songs that helped propel GN?R into one of the greatest rock bands of all time.

Richard covered them.
During an era I have no emotional attachment to.

Again, Izzy to me is as big a draw as Axl and Slash.

If he doesn?t participate, it?s a let down regardless of whether Gilby or Richard are filling in.

Very cool that Axl, Slash and Duff are involved.
Just not as cool as Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven could be.
That?s all.
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« Reply #269 on: January 06, 2016, 02:15:09 PM »

The problem is that Gilby failed to achieve the sound Izzy brought to begin with because: a) he oversimplified Izzy's work; and b) he was always buried into the mix (seems like it wasn't Slash's fault, because all the other rhythm guitar players he worked with had a better mix). IMHO, if you rather get him, you really don't care about the sound - or even you don't care about Izzy's guitar work overall.

So, if we are not getting Izzy, of course I would pick Richard. He's been in the band for 14 years already, it's only natural. And again, he plays Izzy's parts just like he's supposed to do.
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« Reply #270 on: January 06, 2016, 02:32:36 PM »

The problem is that Gilby failed to achieve the sound Izzy brought to begin with because: a) he oversimplified Izzy's work; and b) he was always buried into the mix (seems like it wasn't Slash's fault, because all the other rhythm guitar players he worked with had a better mix). IMHO, if you rather get him, you really don't care about the sound - or even you don't care about Izzy's guitar work overall.

So, if we are not getting Izzy, of course I would pick Richard. He's been in the band for 14 years already, it's only natural. And again, he plays Izzy's parts just like he's supposed to do.

Well we aren?t going to change each others minds here.

Izzy is my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc choice.

Gilby would make for a halfway decent consolation prize because he was at least a part of the amazing Illusions tours.

I didn?t vote for Richard.
I don?t question his ability, or importance to post Illusions GN?R, but he happens to be part of a pretty forgettable(to me) era of the band.
I also don?t question that he may be a better choice if starting a cover band, but my preference would again me the real deal, Izzy.

It looks like Richard is in, so I?m happy you and fans of his will get to see him up there.
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« Reply #271 on: January 06, 2016, 02:47:32 PM »

Its sort of funny to hear one of Richard's big selling points is being able to play like Izzy...

...when just about every member of the original band said Izzy's guitar playing was average, at best.

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« Reply #272 on: January 06, 2016, 02:51:05 PM »

I don't think Izzy and Richard are alike at all....Richard is really more of a lead player but what do I know.... Huh
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« Reply #273 on: January 06, 2016, 02:53:32 PM »

Well we aren?t going to change each others minds here.

Izzy is my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc choice.

Gilby would make for a halfway decent consolation prize because he was at least a part of the amazing Illusions tours.

I didn?t vote for Richard.
I don?t question his ability, or importance to post Illusions GN?R, but he happens to be part of a pretty forgettable(to me) era of the band.
I also don?t question that he may be a better choice if starting a cover band, but my preference would again me the real deal, Izzy.

It looks like Richard is in, so I?m happy you and fans of his will get to see him up there.
Not trying to change your mind. Actually I was just trying to find any logic behind it. Like I said before, if it's all about opinion, fair enough. And of course I wasn't talking about Izzy, he would be my first choice too.

Its sort of funny to hear one of Richard's big selling points is being able to play like Izzy...

...when just about every member of the original band said Izzy's guitar playing was average, at best.


Nobody is really talking about skills. Richard is more than capable of it, hence why he actually played some Slash and Buckethead solos.
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« Reply #274 on: January 06, 2016, 02:57:18 PM »

Richard and Slash will be interesting...double barrel shotgun!
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« Reply #275 on: January 06, 2016, 03:04:06 PM »

This is quite simple... I love Adler. He has the chops to play UYI stuff, he wrote the drums for most of it anyways.

Frank is the better drummer though, and the safer pick. I'm cool with Frank being the guy. Just let Adler do some stuff on a few shows.

With Richard, I'm also cool with him, as he's very underrated. I would prefer Gilby personally but either are great. Izzy would be amazing but I don't think that is going to happen.

I'm just happy overall about it all.
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« Reply #276 on: January 06, 2016, 04:13:32 PM »




Again, Izzy to me is as big a draw as Axl and Slash.



To you yes, to the majority of people buying tickets, absolutely not.  This week I have found myself having to explain to people who own Guns N Roses albums and plan on attending any possible shows coming up who Izzy Stradlin is.  Its crazy but true.  Some were not quite sure who Duff was either.  To the majority of the public its Axl/Slash,  Tyler/Perry, Jagger/Richards, Page/Plant etc..
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« Reply #277 on: January 06, 2016, 04:26:05 PM »



Again, Izzy to me is as big a draw as Axl and Slash.


To you yes, to the majority of people buying tickets, absolutely not.  This week I have found myself having to explain to people who own Guns N Roses albums and plan on attending any possible shows coming up who Izzy Stradlin is.  Its crazy but true.  Some were not quite sure who Duff was either.  To the majority of the public its Axl/Slash,  Tyler/Perry, Jagger/Richards, Page/Plant etc..


Yep, yep.

I personally consider Izzy the most important guy in band history after Axl.

But that is inside baseball thinking.  To the general public, Slash is #2.
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« Reply #278 on: January 06, 2016, 04:31:40 PM »




Again, Izzy to me is as big a draw as Axl and Slash.



To you yes, to the majority of people buying tickets, absolutely not. 


Izzy is, what a press release might call it, a founding member.
But never had the mainstream popularity... And what he had, he walked away from.



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« Reply #279 on: January 06, 2016, 04:33:02 PM »

Well if Izzy and Slash were to share the stage I wonder could a track like 'Ghost' be thrown in there as a bonus. Would love to hear Axl's vocals on some of that material  peace
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