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Quote from: sky dog on November 17, 2015, 01:28:13 PM
I don't like the hybrid thing at all.
What I am thinking of is Axl's comment (can't remember from where) where he said that if there ever was a reunion, it would be with Slash and Duff only as they were the only two he could rely on for a full tour.
It could appear as this is exactly how things are playing out right now..
Now if you don't like the idea, that's personal preference of course. Personally I think it could be a pretty solid line-up with Richard on board. Izzy is the best song writer of them all, but in a live setting, I could settle for Richard anytime.
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on November 17, 2015, 11:08:40 AM
I never got Chris' appeal or considered him essential personnel.
He just seems like a guy with a goofy nickname people latched onto, for mostly ironic reasons.
His contributions are under rated, IMHO. Chris' background is in production and board ops. I suspect that he did a lot of board operating, to Axl (and Tommy's) specs, to create the final sound we got on CD. He also did some writing on the album, too...which might relate directly back to that, or not.
He's a decent keyboard player, too...but I don't think that's the primary reason he was in the band.
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Quote from: JAEBALL on November 17, 2015, 01:30:30 PM
Quote from: sky dog on November 17, 2015, 01:28:13 PM
I don't like the hybrid thing at all.
The theory that Axl is filling spots with Slash and Duff rather than reuniting the band makes sense, Axl wouldn't want to sack Richard or Frank.
So sack Tommy? The guy with the longest tenure and most street cred of all the new Gnr members. All or Nothing I say...full on reunion or release CD II and bring back Finck.
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Quote from: sky dog on November 17, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
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Quote from: sky dog on November 17, 2015, 01:28:13 PM
I don't like the hybrid thing at all.
The theory that Axl is filling spots with Slash and Duff rather than reuniting the band makes sense, Axl wouldn't want to sack Richard or Frank.
So sack Tommy? The guy with the longest tenure and most street cred of all the new Gnr members. All or Nothing I say...full on reunion or release CD II and bring back Finck.
Straight out sacking him would leave a bad taste. If it has been more of a gradual transition where Tommy becomes more and more active with his original band, The Replacements, I think both Tommy and Axl could live with that.
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Quote from: sky dog on November 17, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
So sack Tommy? The guy with the longest tenure and most street cred of all the new Gnr members. All or Nothing I say...full on reunion or release CD II and bring back Finck.
Tommy said it: He wasn't fired. He walked away of his own accord. He left it in Vegas. He needed to take care of his own shit.
We can go round and round about how to interpret what he said, but if the reunion ultimately actually happens, it pretty much interprets those words for us. This was Tommy's choice.
So, no..you don't "sack Tommy". You just don't ask him to come back, after he walked away to deal with his personal shit.
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arghhhh...Izzy needs to be involved as well.....Sky Dog is getting upset.
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Quote from: sky dog on November 17, 2015, 01:47:00 PM
arghhhh...Izzy needs to be involved as well.....Sky Dog is getting upset.
You can't MAKE someone do something they don't want to do. I'm with you, in that I'd love Izzy to be a card carrying, full time, round the world member of a GnR reunion (if such an animal comes to be).
But, the guy, to date, has been pretty vocal about NOT wanting to do that. If that changed, I kinda think he'd be welcome back with open arms.
So...do you NOT do it because one guy says "Guys, I love you, I love what we did, but I just can't do it. I don't want to do it. It's just not in me"?
Izzy will probably blow into town, every so often, and come out and play a half a set with them. Smile. Have fun.
And then he'll go back to the desert and race dune buggies for awhile to regenerate his chi, or whatever.
And maybe he'll write a bit, and guest on a song or two, IF there is ever a new album. Maybe.
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I think it's unlikely that Izzy would want to be involved. He seems happy enough staying out of the limelight and just doing his thing. He did all the world tours and stadium shows when he was a young man and seems to have no need or desire to go back to that. I can see him doing the odd guest appearance here or there, but not much more than that.
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Far and away the best part of Slash and Duff coming back if that's how it goes, is that they can do the press.
That's one of the bigger downfalls of the All Axl, All The Time operation. At least in my view.
I get that he hates it, but its part of the job. All the more so when you leave yourself as the only one that matters.
Slash and Duff did much of it back in the day, and could take that part back over. Here's hoping.
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Quote from: Virolec on November 17, 2015, 01:54:56 PM
I think it's unlikely that Izzy would want to be involved. He seems happy enough staying out of the limelight and just doing his thing. He did all the world tours and stadium shows when he was a young man and seems to have need or desire to go back to that. I can see him doing the odd guest appearance here or there, but not much more than that.
When did Izzy last comment on any potential reunion, and what did he say?
I'm asking everyone here, because I don't know. Was it recently, or 10 years ago? If it was a very long time ago, I guess things could have changed..
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I?d prefer to see them play one show with Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven(and or Sorum) over a worldwide tour with Fortus and Frank.
Even if it meant I couldn?t get tickets. Would just be cool to see them all on stage again, on youtube or whatever.
The blending of eras just seems strange, and while I can appreciate why they might feel it?s necessary, it still seems like they?d be blowing another obvious opportunity where they could finally get it right.
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When did Izzy last comment on any potential reunion, and what did he say?
Has Izzy ever commented on a potential reunion? I'm not aware.
I think so. Without any direct quotes at hand, I seem to recall him talking about it in the press in the late 90s/early 00s. Not 100% sure though.
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Quote from: Spirit on November 17, 2015, 02:02:11 PM
When did Izzy last comment on any potential reunion, and what did he say?
Has Izzy ever commented on a potential reunion? I'm not aware.
Izzy played the reunion gig in 2007 with Adler's Appetite.
Then, in 2008, when asked about the possibility of a reunion he said, "of course, I wrote a great deal of that material."
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if they record a new LP, I mean, the "old" guys", Izzy has to be there. his songwriting is essential to the balance.
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if they record a new LP, I mean, the "old" guys", Izzy has to be there. his songwriting is essential to the balance.
This I 100% agree with!
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I think it's unlikely that Izzy would want to be involved. He seems happy enough staying out of the limelight and just doing his thing. He did all the world tours and stadium shows when he was a young man and seems to have need or desire to go back to that. I can see him doing the odd guest appearance here or there, but not much more than that.
When did Izzy last comment on any potential reunion, and what did he say?
I'm asking everyone here, because I don't know. Was it recently, or 10 years ago? If it was a very long time ago, I guess things could have changed..
I don't recall specific comments (he's tended to dodge the question, in interviews...that I remember), but more a sort of expressed sentiment that he's not interested in doing huge, 100 date, massive production tours in general. And that he likes to have his "private time" to recharge, etc.
But here's the next logical question: If he's NOT up there, on stage, and the rumors of Slash, Duff, Axl are true...what other reason do you HONESTLY think that would be other than Izzy saying "No"?
Do you think they wouldn't ask him? I just don't see that as being likely. They all get along with him. He's played with every single one of them, at different times, and relatively recently. Right?
Unlike Steven, who has other issues to overcome....Izzys not really a big risk..unless you think he's going to flake out and bail 1/2 way through the tour. And I don't think THAT would stop them from asking, honestly.
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Quote from: sky dog on November 17, 2015, 01:28:13 PM
I don't like the hybrid thing at all.
The theory that Axl is filling spots with Slash and Duff rather than reuniting the band makes sense, Axl wouldn't want to sack Richard or Frank.
So sack Tommy? The guy with the longest tenure and most street cred of all the new Gnr members. All or Nothing I say...full on reunion or release CD II and bring back Finck.
Like it was already pointed out...
Tommy wasn't sacked...
He chose to do other things... and Axl probably doesn't feel the same loyalty to him as he once did, combined with his renewed friendship with Duff, ... "read between the lines"
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I think it's unlikely that Izzy would want to be involved. He seems happy enough staying out of the limelight and just doing his thing. He did all the world tours and stadium shows when he was a young man and seems to have need or desire to go back to that. I can see him doing the odd guest appearance here or there, but not much more than that.
When did Izzy last comment on any potential reunion, and what did he say?
I'm asking everyone here, because I don't know. Was it recently, or 10 years ago? If it was a very long time ago, I guess things could have changed..
I don't recall specific comments (he's tended to dodge the question, in interviews...that I remember), but more a sort of expressed sentiment that he's not interested in doing huge, 100 date, massive production tours in general. And that he likes to have his "private time" to recharge, etc.
But here's the next logical question: If he's NOT up there, on stage, and the rumors of Slash, Duff, Axl are true...what other reason do you HONESTLY think that would be other than Izzy saying "No"?
Do you think they wouldn't ask him? I just don't see that as being likely. They all get along with him. He's played with every single one of them, at different times, and relatively recently. Right?
Unlike Steven, who has other issues to overcome....Izzys not really a big risk..unless you think he's going to flake out and bail 1/2 way through the tour. And I don't think THAT would stop them from asking, honestly.
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=54054.0
In this interview he clearly states he'd be interested in some form. granted, it's a few years ago now... so we'll see.
Thiago: But if the case would occur, would you consider a reunion as possible?
Izzy: Yes, of course. I wrote a big part of that material.
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