Reunion Tour???

[D-GenerationX]

D-Gen is a person who argues to argue....probably a good dude face to face but for some reason gets his rocks off by playing the devil's advocate all the time on the internet. I don't mind a good scrap either, but the Gnr talk at this point is silly for us old school fans. There is really nothing to discuss until Ax comes out of his hole.

I think, just in general, devil's advocate can lead to interesting conversation.

I follow politics pretty hard, and I see some similarities to that world and this board.  You have your people that like to talk about it.  But then you get some true believers that takes things a little more personal, I guess you'd say.  Devil's advocate is taken personally, or seen as joking around about SERIOUS BUSINESS.  It can get away from you.

It's all good.  This is still the best place around to talk about this stuff, I think.   

[D-GenerationX]

Hey DX in regards to your feelings on a favorite line up i feel in music its a little different then say a sports team where you can get behind specific athletes. I think and this is just my opinion when it comes to music and a band like GNR its about the music we all fell in love with the initial line up ill give you that but i also think its fair to say chinese democracy was a great album musically speaking that some fans just didn't want to give it a chance because it wasn't the original guys. As long as its Axl and the music is what it has been i really don't care in the end what the line up is.

I see that rationale.

The difference is really that I see them as 2 different bands.  For me, its hard to say I like them equally because I see such different styles.

If you don't see things with that line of demarcation, I suppose I could see where its harder to pick a favorite.

I just tend to think, gun to your head, everyone has a preference.

[GNR4LIFEJD]

Well let me pose this hypothetical question. lets say Chinese democracy was made by the original line up and it came out just as it did. In your heart of hearts would you feel like oh its such a different sound then what they did previously and think negatively of the band for such a change in sound?

[D-GenerationX]

Well let me pose this hypothetical question. lets say Chinese democracy was made by the original line up and it came out just as it did. In your heart of hearts would you feel like oh its such a different sound then what they did previously and think negatively of the band for such a change in sound?

I don't think of it negatively, I just think its obviously different.  Not bad, just more of a wholesale change than an organic evolution.

If the old band did the last album?  Hard to say because I can't see Slash, Izzy, or Duff coming up with such material.  But I do think it would sound a little different, yeah.  But not radically.

[Virolec]

I think following a band is very different from following a sports team.  With a sports team, you expect a complete overhaul of players every few years, and the club may exist for many generations.  The team I follow is the same my father followed, and his father before him, even though none of the personnel are the same.  The identity is the thing.  It's the team from the town, a part of the community.  A band is different.  Only a very few bands will stay together for even twenty years, and you generally have the same core of people being involved the whole time.  It's a very different thing, I think.

[D-GenerationX]

I think following a band is very different from following a sports team.  With a sports team, you expect a complete overhaul of players every few years, and the club may exist for many generations.  The team I follow is the same my father followed, and his father before him, even though none of the personnel are the same.  The identity is the thing.  It's the team from the town, a part of the community.  A band is different.  Only a very few bands will stay together for even twenty years, and you generally have the same core of people being involved the whole time.  It's a very different thing, I think.

I agree with all of this.

[danrose51705]

I'm thinking this isn't going to happen

[Bridge]

I think, just in general, devil's advocate can lead to interesting conversation.

Devil's advocate is taken personally,

Devil's advocate can lead to more OBJECTIVE conversations.

When you have a site with too many people gripping the "We're gonna have a reunion!  Why?  Well, because the rumors say so!" side of the coin, it is necessary to play "devil's advocate" in order to balance things out.

And yes, people who want to cling to illogical, unfounded rumors will of course take any refutation personally.

Look, We Joke.  We Break Balls.  Sometimes, We Outright Fight.  But Anyone Still Choosing To Post Here, We Are All On The Same Team.

Now THAT, D-Gen, is a rally cry that Winston Churchill would admire.    

[ice cream sand pig]

I think, just in general, devil's advocate can lead to interesting conversation.

Devil's advocate is taken personally,

Devil's advocate can lead to more OBJECTIVE conversations.

When you have a site with too many people gripping the "We're gonna have a reunion!  Why?  Well, because the rumors say so!" side of the coin, it is necessary to play "devil's advocate" in order to balance things out.

And yes, people who want to cling to illogical, unfounded rumors will of course take any refutation personally.

Look, We Joke.  We Break Balls.  Sometimes, We Outright Fight.  But Anyone Still Choosing To Post Here, We Are All On The Same Team.

Now THAT, D-Gen, is a rally cry that Winston Churchill would admire.    

you and a few others seem very confident this will not happen senor bridge. in a way i hope you are right because i see reunion as a possible distraction from cd 2, but its really hard to say. i just cant take a stance that it will happen or not confidently either way. seems really up in the air.

[draguns]

As the question has been asked a million times on this board, I'll ask it again. If NOTHING is happening then why hasn't ANYONE step forward and stop the rumors? All it takes is for Axl, Slash or Duff to say it's not happening. That's it everything would stop.

I really wonder about some people not wanting a reunion.

[Sosso]

I really wonder about some people not wanting a reunion.

I wanna have a reunion, but with the 2002 line up 

[ice cream sand pig]

As the question has been asked a million times on this board, I'll ask it again. If NOTHING is happening then why hasn't ANYONE step forward and stop the rumors? All it takes is for Axl, Slash or Duff to say it's not happening. That's it everything would stop.

I really wonder about some people not wanting a reunion.

what do you make of the point that they may not be commenting because theyve already spoken so much on it in the past and that nothing has changed in that regard? i think thats as good of an indicator that it wont happen as the silence is an indicator that it will. its really just too hard to say at this point. either way, i just obsess over this band waaaay too much haha.

but yeah, even if cd2 is hampered by reunion somehow, i will be happy for everyone that wants a reunion so bad and at least i will get to see my favorite band play, even if just on youtube. so either way is ultimately a win win for me.

[danrose51705]

just isnt going to happen

[dmathski]

We'll know a lot come Jan 6th

[Bridge]

what do you make of the point that they may not be commenting because theyve already spoken so much on it in the past and that nothing has changed in that regard?

Exactly.  If Axl were reading this board right now, I'd surmise that he can only be thinking:

"Sweet Jesus, didn't those fucking people hear me the first time?  I said NO FUCKING REUNION!"   

you and a few others seem very confident this will not happen senor bridge.

That's because I was one of the seemingly few who was actually LISTENING the first time around!   

[damnthehaters]

We'll know a lot come Jan 6th

Why Jan 6?

[OscarAxl22]

The Illusion line ups were probably my favorite if i am being honest.

[danrose51705]

not going to happen were are my posts lol

[Ginger King]

what do you make of the point that they may not be commenting because theyve already spoken so much on it in the past and that nothing has changed in that regard?

Exactly.  If Axl were reading this board right now, I'd surmise that he can only be thinking:

"Sweet Jesus, didn't those fucking people hear me the first time?  I said NO FUCKING REUNION!"   

you and a few others seem very confident this will not happen senor bridge.

That's because I was one of the seemingly few who was actually LISTENING the first time around!   

But he (emphatically) said "no" multiple times in the past  By your logic, he only should've said no once.  But that's not was has happened. 

Why is it hard for people to admit that this time around it's different?  It's hard to quantify, but it just feels different this time around.  It could amount to nothing, but there just seems to be so much discussion on this it's hard to see why they wouldn't shoot it down if it weren't true. 

[D-GenerationX]

Why is it hard for people to admit that this time around it's different?  It's hard to quantify, but it just feels different this time around.  It could amount to nothing, but there just seems to be so much discussion on this it's hard to see why they wouldn't shoot it down if it weren't true. 

But don't you think that we are putting some of our own hope into that feelings that this is different?

Guys left Axl one after the other.  There is no talk whatsoever about any new album, despite all that SERIOUS looking Axl was going to be doing.

People are left with a feeling of...what the hell is going on here?

But that is all explained away in a second with some sort of reunion.  Oh, so THAT is why all that stuff happened!  That sort of thing.

I think you are going to see some grim times if this reunion thing doesn't pan out, and then people have to go back to wondering if Axl is going to put togetther year another new line-up and keep up that SERIOUS looking at a new album.  And seems to be nowhere on either front.

This reunion talk is a coping mechanism, of sorts.  Not for anyone that thinks its a great time to be a Guns N' Roses fan simply because you woke up this morning, obviously.  But to those with a more discerning eye and lack of aversion to curiosity.