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« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2015, 01:21:58 AM »

as I already said....

Axl... have fun. Ignore us. U gave us enough pleasure in life. Go be happy, chill, and dont worry about us. We are not your responsibility. Hope you give us more good music one day, untill then.
Peace, and thank you.

nice post! i agree. the temptation of new tunes is very great, but we can live without them. very good point lucky.
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« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2015, 06:26:20 PM »

If you say you are seriously going to do something that in itself sort of implies a short time frame. But then I guess NASA is seriously looking at sending someone to Mars  Roll Eyes

The statement was seriously going to START looking into it, it implied nothing and had NO time frame.

Not sure what you are inferring by Mars reference, if it was an attempt at being witty it failed.

If you just go by the worrying in that statement alone.  It would imply that nobody was serious looking at anything yet.....  And they were just about to start.  Hahaha
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« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2015, 02:20:15 AM »

If you say you are seriously going to do something that in itself sort of implies a short time frame. But then I guess NASA is seriously looking at sending someone to Mars  Roll Eyes

The statement was seriously going to START looking into it, it implied nothing and had NO time frame.

Not sure what you are inferring by Mars reference, if it was an attempt at being witty it failed.

If you just go by the worrying in that statement alone.  It would imply that nobody was serious looking at anything yet.....  And they were just about to start.  Hahaha


i see no worrying in that statement. if anyone's worrying, its me about all this reunion talk. if a reunion swallowed up or delayed cd 2, i would be so bummed. it would not be worth it at all. i dont think axl will do that to cd 2, but the mere prospect of it is enough to make me a glum chum. but nah... i dont think that will happen. i would be very surprised. i think that idea was crafted by hopeful reunionists. the idea that some people would rather just shelf the cd legacy and move on with the only version of guns they can accept, the one that ended ages ago, is unfathomable to me.
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« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2015, 07:30:44 AM »


If you say you are seriously going to do something that in itself sort of implies a short time frame. But then I guess NASA is seriously looking at sending someone to Mars  Roll Eyes


Looking VERY seriously, at what they are doing in that regard.
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« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2015, 01:49:46 PM »

On a related note, the singer of Tool just labeled some of his band's fans as insufferable people and retards...

Haha!     hihi

Here it is-http://www.metalsucks.net/2015/10/28/maynard-james-keenan-calls-tool-fans-insufferable-retards/

Some heads would implode if Axl said anything similar about GN'R fans, that's for sure.  hihi

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"He called us stupid!  crying "




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« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2015, 02:02:23 PM »

Yeah, not all fans, some.... But we all know that if you speak out against a small group that are part of a bigger group, it equals insulting everyone. Wink



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« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2015, 02:33:19 PM »

Give me the success story of picking a fight with your fans.

Band, athlete, movie star...what have you.

Where is the example where it all worked out for the best?
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« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2015, 05:26:59 PM »

Give me the success story of picking a fight with your fans.

Band, athlete, movie star...what have you.

Where is the example where it all worked out for the best?

Since the onset of internet access some "fans" have used it as an outlet and a vehicle to complain, whine and vent- about everything.

the constant barrage of entitled online outrage is frankly annoying. It?s a symptom of fan entitlement, fueled by the notion that, because geek culture is now taken seriously by the mainstream media, their demands should be respected damn the consequences.
 
One has to wonder at times where the distinction between tasteful understated nerdrage and entitled whining lies.
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« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2015, 05:35:16 PM »

Give me the success story of picking a fight with your fans.

Band, athlete, movie star...what have you.

Where is the example where it all worked out for the best?

Since the onset of internet access some "fans" have used it as an outlet and a vehicle to complain, whine and vent- about everything.

the constant barrage of entitled online outrage is frankly annoying. It?s a symptom of fan entitlement, fueled by the notion that, because geek culture is now taken seriously by the mainstream media, their demands should be respected damn the consequences.
 
One has to wonder at times where the distinction between tasteful understated nerdrage and entitled whining lies.


Give it a rest.
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« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2015, 05:38:22 PM »

Give me the success story of picking a fight with your fans.

Band, athlete, movie star...what have you.

Where is the example where it all worked out for the best?

Since the onset of internet access some "fans" have used it as an outlet and a vehicle to complain, whine and vent- about everything.

the constant barrage of entitled online outrage is frankly annoying. It?s a symptom of fan entitlement, fueled by the notion that, because geek culture is now taken seriously by the mainstream media, their demands should be respected damn the consequences.
 
One has to wonder at times where the distinction between tasteful understated nerdrage and entitled whining lies.


So...no example, then?
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« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2015, 06:06:08 PM »

Metallica sued some of their fans, they're till huge. Wink

Anyway, just because there's no real success stories doesn't mean it's not right. I don't know anything really about Tool fanatics, but I wouldn't be surprised if Maynard has a point in what he said, unfortunately for him, it obviously gets twisted to generate more attention.

Also, "picking a fight with your fans" sounds like a crappy generalization. In this case, it wasn't what happened.
Like I said, if you speak out against one little group, or one individual, within a bigger group, doesn't mean everybody is included. This is the mistake the pity party participants always make.




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« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2015, 06:56:46 PM »

Give me the success story of picking a fight with your fans.

Band, athlete, movie star...what have you.

Where is the example where it all worked out for the best?

If I had fans as nasty as some of Axl's, Id be forced to fight with some individuals every now and then. Some people have it coming. Sometimes I feel like that's what you want... for him to show up here and go toe to toe with you.

You say "picking a fight", but who is actually picking the fight when he goes off? Does he just walk up to his fans while they are in line and start randomly pushing them around? Werent you the one that said sometimes he should defend himself?

Ax cant win with you DX. I am convinced there is some unknown motive that drives you here on htgth. I dont buy that you are just some regular fan. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2015, 06:58:13 PM »

Same goes for Maynard. Im sure he didnt pick the fight. Why would he? It wouldnt make any sense.
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« Reply #53 on: November 02, 2015, 07:07:17 PM »

Metallica sued some of their fans, they're till huge. Wink

Anyway, just because there's no real success stories doesn't mean it's not right. I don't know anything really about Tool fanatics, but I wouldn't be surprised if Maynard has a point in what he said, unfortunately for him, it obviously gets twisted to generate more attention.

Also, "picking a fight with your fans" sounds like a crappy generalization. In this case, it wasn't what happened.
Like I said, if you speak out against one little group, or one individual, within a bigger group, doesn't mean everybody is included. This is the mistake the pity party participants always make.




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Maynard said it quite good: "User @nathan_felts tweeted, "hilarious that you can flat out insult your core fanbase then shit in a ziplock and they'd still buy it. now THATS talent" [sic]. Keenan responded, "Our core fanbase aren't fanatics. They're music lovers & artists & good people. Its the fanatics that are insufferable.""
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« Reply #54 on: November 02, 2015, 07:12:30 PM »


Also, "picking a fight with your fans" sounds like a crappy generalization. In this case, it wasn't what happened.


No, it wasn't.

But I'm seeing a lot of black slapping and har-de-har-har type sentiment about what they did say.

I'm just wondering where that's worked.  I think the reason you don't have an example is because there really isn't one.

Look, fans are by their very nature, insane.  Fanbases of any interest or topic will obviously be filled with people that spend an outsized portion of their time on the subject.  And I'm sure, at times, they are annoying as shit.  Celebs have a great life, but the trade off of your privacy is absolutely a thing.

But taking shots at diehard fans that stick with you, let's face it, no matter what?  Never a good idea.  Not for a band, a team, whoever.

Forget being a can't win argument, its fundamentally unsound business practice.
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You say "picking a fight", but who is actually picking the fight when he goes off? Does he just walk up to his fans while they are in line and start randomly pushing them around? Werent you the one that said sometimes he should defend himself?


I have said that.

He does himself no favors staying silent if he thinks he's been wronged and letting the supposedly false story prosper.  Who remembers the correction 6 months later, on page A8?  They only remember the headline.

Which would be fine if he truly didn't care.  But he does care.  He's long issued disapproval with now people spread lies and he can't stand that's what people choose to believe.  That seems a normal reaction.  What doens't seem normal is not lifting a finger to correct the record when it clearly bothers him.

I don't think Axl picks fights either.  I don't think he does much of anything, communication wise.
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« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2015, 07:21:01 PM »


Same goes for Maynard. Im sure he didnt pick the fight. Why would he? It wouldnt make any sense.


But even what he did say, did it makes sense?

You see the reaction.  That's a surprise?

What's the honest chance that fans were going to look for nuance in his answer and make a good, reasoned decision before freaking out?

Would be nice, but come on.
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« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2015, 07:24:01 PM »


Ax cant win with you DX. I am convinced there is some unknown motive that drives you here on htgth. I dont buy that you are just some regular fan. Just my opinion.


Ah, yes, the sleeper agent theory.

Well, according to my inbox, we've already got a guy here working the Duplicate Accounts / Alias desk.  Maybe he'll have a break.
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« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2015, 07:35:27 PM »


Also, "picking a fight with your fans" sounds like a crappy generalization. In this case, it wasn't what happened.


No, it wasn't.

But I'm seeing a lot of black slapping and har-de-har-har type sentiment about what they did say.

I'm just wondering where that's worked.  I think the reason you don't have an example is because there really isn't one.

Look, fans are by their very nature, insane.  Fanbases of any interest or topic will obviously be filled with people that spend an outsized portion of their time on the subject.  And I'm sure, at times, they are annoying as shit.  Celebs have a great life, but the trade off of your privacy is absolutely a thing.

But taking shots at diehard fans that stick with you, let's face it, no matter what?  Never a good idea.  Not for a band, a team, whoever.

Forget being a can't win argument, its fundamentally unsound business practice.

What kind of fan you are depends on everything you do or say about the artist you "support"

If you spend thousand of dollars on concert tickets, cd`s etc. but behave like shit, acting like the artists owes you something... you got the products you paid for, but still acts like a dick.

I think its good that people like Maynard says it like it is... Listen to the Tool songs "Hooker with a penis" that songs is exactly about this kind of subject..

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Hooker With A Penis"

I met a boy wearing Vans, 501s, and a
Dope Beastie t, nipple rings, and
New tattoos that claimed that he
Was OGT, (Original Gangster Tool)
From '92,
The first EP.

And in between
Sips of Coke
He told me that
He thought
We were sellin' out,
Layin' down,
Suckin' up
To the man.

Well now I've got some
A-dvice for you, little buddy.
Before you point the finger
You should know that
I'm the man,

And if I'm the man,

Then you're the man, and
He's the man as well so you can
Point that fuckin' finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what I've sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

So I've got some
Advice for you, little buddy.
Before you point your finger
You should know that
I'm the man,

If I'm the fuckin' man
Then you're the fuckin' man as well
So you can
Point that fuckin' finger up your ass.

All you know about me is what I've sold you,
Dumb fuck.
I sold out long before you ever heard my name.

I sold my soul to make a record,
Dip shit,
And you bought one.

All you read and
Wear or see and
Hear on TV
Is a product
Begging for your
Fatass dirty
Dollar

So...Shut up and

Buy my new record
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.

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« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2015, 09:17:24 PM »


You say "picking a fight", but who is actually picking the fight when he goes off? Does he just walk up to his fans while they are in line and start randomly pushing them around? Werent you the one that said sometimes he should defend himself?


I have said that.

He does himself no favors staying silent if he thinks he's been wronged and letting the supposedly false story prosper.  Who remembers the correction 6 months later, on page A8?  They only remember the headline.

Which would be fine if he truly didn't care.  But he does care.  He's long issued disapproval with now people spread lies and he can't stand that's what people choose to believe.  That seems a normal reaction.  What doens't seem normal is not lifting a finger to correct the record when it clearly bothers him.

I don't think Axl picks fights either.  I don't think he does much of anything, communication wise.

Ah, the daily whining of entitled "fans."

Please, sing me the song of your people.  crying

Tell me how difficult your life is, and how you are mistreated by GNR.

Tell us all how you have all the e-expertise and armchair quarterback knowledge to sort everything out.
 that you deem is "wrong" (without really knowing.)

Drag up old issues time and time again, and never quit offering unsolicited amateur advice about non-negotiable issues.

Play it again Sam.
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