Richard Fortus 'I Have No Idea What's Going On' With Guns N' Roses

[D-GenerationX]

Was Santa Claus really necessary.

Given the laundry list of stuff we are given to swallow, I assumed we all believe in Santa Claus.

[jarmo]

Or management or Axl or Del or their publicist.

Was Santa Claus really necessary.

It's the season. Well almost. Or it is depending on what store you walk into. 




/jarmo

[NaturalLight]

um . . . maybe it was just a figure of speech.

[Wooody]

I?m hoping that it does and I can be a part of it.

He is basically saying he hopes he is still in the band?
 wtf?

[sky dog]

Honestly, I don't think Richard knows more than anybody else from the modern lineup....I gotta think Tommy is more accurate with his "we left it all in Vegas". Open book going forward. Why is that so hard to grasp for people? It is Axl's band and he is leaving all options open. At this point, it is the right move.

[norway]

 But other than that, everything we've seen from Axl over the years live is 100% him. 

In Japan 02 it is something weird going on. After lald he says 'if it's an equalizer, compressor or a filter on this this thing turn it off'.

How many people just dismissed the song because they didn't like the vocal intro on the CD?

 I skip to the solo here.

[D-GenerationX]

Honestly, I don't think Richard knows more than anybody else from the modern lineup....I gotta think Tommy is more accurate with his "we left it all in Vegas". Open book going forward. Why is that so hard to grasp for people? It is Axl's band and he is leaving all options open. At this point, it is the right move.

I can only speak for myself here.  But I'm not sure you are making a 100% genuine argument.  Not just you, to be fair, but anyone that goes down this road.

You say its an open book.  Could go either way.  But is that how people handle it?

What I mean is, how can people claim we don't really know...then jump down the throat of anyone that says it looks like a guy is gone?  Isn't that part of the "could go either way" principle?

When a guy starts talking about having to step away, about leaving it all in Vegas, and generally talking about the band in the past tense...that doesn't paint a rosy picture he's still in the mix, does it?  But try suggesting that, and you get grief.

But I thought it could go either way.  Right?

[JAEBALL]

What I truly find amusing is...the people who push back against certain scenarios...are the same people who are never ever going to say a disparaging word about the operation no matter which way it goes...

So stop pushing back against people hopeful for it to go a certain way...

[D-GenerationX]

I think there are very, very few things in life that are truly 50/50.  A true equal chance of outcome on both sides.

Both the odds themselves, as well as human nature, are going to have you leaning one way.

No?

[sky dog]

I am not pushing anybody in any direction. 

My ideal scenario is release the rest of Chinese in 2016 and call it a day for the modern lineup. Boxset that stuff and turn the page. In 2017, reunion for AFD's 30 year anniversary.

[JAEBALL]

I am not pushing anybody in any direction. 

My ideal scenario is release the rest of Chinese in 2016 and call it a day for the modern lineup. Boxset that stuff and turn the page. In 2017, reunion for AFD's 30 year anniversary.

DING DING DING ... that's the winner right there.

[D-GenerationX]

I am not pushing anybody in any direction. 

My ideal scenario is release the rest of Chinese in 2016 and call it a day for the modern lineup. Boxset that stuff and turn the page. In 2017, reunion for AFD's 30 year anniversary.

Hahahaha

Shit, let's put you in charge.  That all sounds great

[Wooody]

I am not pushing anybody in any direction. 

My ideal scenario is release the rest of Chinese in 2016 and call it a day for the modern lineup. Boxset that stuff and turn the page. In 2017, reunion for AFD's 30 year anniversary.

Hahahaha

Shit, let's put you in charge.  That all sounds great

I would've been against that if the modern lineup was still alive (the last one).
But Now I agree. Boxset that stuff and reunion all the way.

[EmilyGNR]

I am not pushing anybody in any direction. 

My ideal scenario is release the rest of Chinese in 2016 and call it a day for the modern lineup. Boxset that stuff and turn the page. In 2017, reunion for AFD's 30 year anniversary.

I think from gleaning the forums that most fans are like a Queen song- They want it all, and they want it now 

[sky dog]

yep....pipe dream, but it makes big time financial sense. Axl gets to show his full vision for Chinese and let's be honest, he won't do a reunion until that has run it's course in his mind. The boxset sells huge to his hardcores (of which there is still a substantial amount across the globe) and the reunion is a complete cash grab windfall whenever he wants it. Win-Win....Let's start with a single disc of Chinese take out and then re-evaluate!

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

yep....pipe dream, but it makes big time financial sense. Axl gets to show his full vision for Chinese and let's be honest, he won't do a reunion until that has run it's course in his mind. The boxset sells huge to his hardcores (of which there is still a substantial amount across the globe) and the reunion is a complete cash grab windfall whenever he wants it. Win-Win....Let's start with a single disc of Chinese take out and then re-evaluate!

This is exactly what I've been thinking as well and the timing makes complete sense.  I'd like to see them bring back the CD composers to perform a tour of small venues in which they only play CD era material.  Then jump into 2017 where they tour AFD and UYI with that era. 

[sky dog]

I'd be all over that

[D-GenerationX]

This is exactly what I've been thinking as well and the timing makes complete sense.  I'd like to see them bring back the CD composers to perform a tour of small venues in which they only play CD era material.  Then jump into 2017 where they tour AFD and UYI with that era. 

Dude, who is going to that?

If you advertise that 100% honestly, that its going to be CD-era stuff and nothing but...who's really buying that ticket?

[GeorgeSteele]

This is exactly what I've been thinking as well and the timing makes complete sense.  I'd like to see them bring back the CD composers to perform a tour of small venues in which they only play CD era material.  Then jump into 2017 where they tour AFD and UYI with that era. 

Dude, who is going to that?

If you advertise that 100% honestly, that its going to be CD-era stuff and nothing but...who's really buying that ticket?

Wouldn't be the first artist to troll fans by not playing any hits.  Off the top of my head, Dylan and Bowie used to do that, Morrissey does it, Elvis Costello... these guys aren't selling out stadiums now, but it's not just 10 guys in attendance either. 

For the record, I would rather they don't do CD-only, they never would, but I'd still go.

[JAEBALL]

This is exactly what I've been thinking as well and the timing makes complete sense.  I'd like to see them bring back the CD composers to perform a tour of small venues in which they only play CD era material.  Then jump into 2017 where they tour AFD and UYI with that era. 

Dude, who is going to that?

If you advertise that 100% honestly, that its going to be CD-era stuff and nothing but...who's really buying that ticket?

Wouldn't be the first artist to troll fans by not playing any hits.  Off the top of my head, Dylan and Bowie used to do that, Morrissey does it, Elvis Costello... these guys aren't selling out stadiums now, but it's not just 10 guys in attendance either. 

For the record, I would rather they don't do CD-only, they never would, but I'd still go.

If you had the REAL (haha) Chinese Democracy lineup together... that would be fucking awesome... everybody here would go... but yeah it would be strange... and probably not all that marketable.