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Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 03:52:16 PM
In 2006 Mick Wall said that Axl sounded literally better than ever live, to the point where he was wondering whether Axl was using some kind of auto-tune during live shows. A douchey thing to say, sure, but it shows just how incredible Axl sounded during that tour.
I posted WTTJ from 2006 Rock Am Ring on my FB page a few months back.
The feedback was nuts. While they all conceded they had no clue who the hell was on stage with him, they all thought he sounded incredible.
That scream...I hate to agree with Mick, but you do almost wonder if it was fake. But they keep that camera on him tight the whole time, and that's all him.
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Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 03:52:16 PM
In 2006 Mick Wall said that Axl sounded literally better than ever live, to the point where he was wondering whether Axl was using some kind of auto-tune during live shows. A douchey thing to say, sure, but it shows just how incredible Axl sounded during that tour.
I posted WTTJ from 2006 Rock Am Ring on my FB page a few months back.
The feedback was nuts. While they all conceded they had no clue who the hell was on stage with him, they all thought he sounded incredible.
That scream...I hate to agree with Mick, but you do almost wonder if it was fake. But they keep that camera on him tight the whole time, and that's all him.
For whatever reason, they used backing tracks when he did Scraped & Catcher live in 2009-10. It sounded incredibly out of place and wonky. But other than that, everything we've seen from Axl over the years live is 100% him. Whether it's been for better or worse, there's too much improv in what he does for it not to be him.
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Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 04:05:03 PM
For whatever reason, they used backing tracks when he did Scraped & Catcher live in 2009-10. It sounded incredibly out of place and wonky. But other than that, everything we've seen from Axl over the years live is 100% him. Whether it's been for better or worse, there's too much improv in what he does for it not to be him.
I love the live version of 'Scraped'. Like that drum intro.
But it is sort of weird with those screams in the beginning. They play the backing tracks...yet he still does different screams live. It does sound a bit off.
Still dig it though.
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For whatever reason, they used backing tracks when he did Scraped & Catcher live in 2009-10. It sounded incredibly out of place and wonky. But other than that, everything we've seen from Axl over the years live is 100% him. Whether it's been for better or worse, there's too much improv in what he does for it not to be him.
I love the live version of 'Scraped'. Like that drum intro.
But it is sort of weird with those screams in the beginning. They play the backing tracks...yet he still does different screams live. It does sound a bit off.
Still dig it though.
Oh, the drum intro is badass. Which is why it's so disarming when out of nowhere the CD starts playing along with Axl's live vocals. It kind of neuters the whole thing for me. Ron & Dizzy could've handled those backing vocals just fine, not sure why they had to blast the CD instead.
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Well, that's just tremendous.
OK, well...given everything we've heard, is it perhaps time to say they really are NOT starting to look very seriously at what they are doing in regard to releasing a new album?
Are we still going to pretend that's a thing? Nothing anyone ever seems to say supports that there is any sort of effort being put into that.
The reunion stuff, hey, who the hell knows. But I think it likely time to stop thinking there is all this hustle and bustle going on behind the scenes to get a new album out.
Day in and day out. The same old.
Ok. Let's play a game: Let's go with your opinion: There's no album, there's no band, there's no tour.
Can you please go play somewhere else now and come back when one of those things change to your liking?
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on October 06, 2015, 02:31:14 PM
Well, that's just tremendous.
OK, well...given everything we've heard, is it perhaps time to say they really are NOT starting to look very seriously at what they are doing in regard to releasing a new album?
Are we still going to pretend that's a thing? Nothing anyone ever seems to say supports that there is any sort of effort being put into that.
The reunion stuff, hey, who the hell knows. But I think it likely time to stop thinking there is all this hustle and bustle going on behind the scenes to get a new album out.
Day in and day out. The same old.
Ok. Let's play a game: Let's go with your opinion: There's no album, there's no band, there's no tour.
Can you please go play somewhere else now and come back when one of those things change to your liking?
Thanks a bunch!
/jarmo
That's like telling a disenchanted soccer fan to *not* talk about their favorite team until they start winning. Good luck!
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Didn't a little while ago he said big plans for next year? Now he doesn't know anything??... ya riiiight
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Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 04:12:05 PM
Oh, the drum intro is badass. Which is why it's so disarming when out of nowhere the CD starts playing along with Axl's live vocals. It kind of neuters the whole thing for me. Ron & Dizzy could've handled those backing vocals just fine, not sure why they had to blast the CD instead.
However, it does add an almost call and response sort of effect. The backing track from the CD plays, and then he answers with a live one.
I think that drum intro is awesome. And might have been better served on the album. How many people just dismissed the song because they didn't like the vocal intro on the CD? I found that silly.
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Quote from: dmathski on October 06, 2015, 04:15:59 PM
Didn't a little while ago he said big plans for next year? Now he doesn't know anything??... ya riiiight
Honestly, Richard's been saying shit like that for years. Now he's dialing back for whatever reason. Next interview he'll likely be back to talking about Axl's 16 finished albums
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Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 04:15:01 PM
That's like telling a disenchanted soccer fan to *not* talk about their favorite team until they start winning. Good luck!
It's called football.
Even those fans usually have something constructive to say...
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That's like telling a disenchanted soccer fan to *not* talk about their favorite team until they start winning. Good luck!
It's called football.
Even those fans usually have something constructive to say...
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Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 04:12:05 PM
Oh, the drum intro is badass. Which is why it's so disarming when out of nowhere the CD starts playing along with Axl's live vocals. It kind of neuters the whole thing for me. Ron & Dizzy could've handled those backing vocals just fine, not sure why they had to blast the CD instead.
However, it does add an almost call and response sort of effect. The backing track from the CD plays, and then he answers with a live one.
I think that drum intro is awesome. And might have been better served on the album. How many people just dismissed the song because they didn't like the vocal intro on the CD? I found that silly.
Didn't Eric Cadieux (spelling?) do a remix that included the drum intro? I could've sworn that was floating around somewhere.
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Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 04:18:16 PM
Now he's dialing back for whatever reason.
Yeah, it seems like the some of the band members don't know what's going on, and are not sure of their status
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Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 04:18:16 PM
Now he's dialing back for whatever reason.
Yeah, it seems like the some of the band members don't know what's going on, and are not sure of their status
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Can you blame him for not saying anything?
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on October 06, 2015, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: sofine11 on October 06, 2015, 04:18:16 PM
Now he's dialing back for whatever reason.
Yeah, it seems like the some of the band members don't know what's going on, and are not sure of their status
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Can you blame him for not saying anything?
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He says he's not opposed to talking about Guns N' Roses. But he has no idea what is going on.
What's odd is that he doesn't seem sure of his status in the band, same as Tommy.
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He also says he doesn't wanna get in trouble.
Which implies, saying too much too early.
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He also says he doesn't wanna get in trouble.
Makes you wonder, in trouble with who.
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Quote from: jarmo on October 06, 2015, 04:59:30 PM
He also says he doesn't wanna get in trouble.
Which implies, saying too much too early.
Which would be the positive spin. That there is something cool coming, and he doesn't want to spoil it. Yeah, that would be awesome.
Which might fly...if we did not have years upon years of that very thing never, never, ever, ever, playing out.
You could make just as good an argument he is being as truthful as humanly possible. He's not saying shit about shit because he doesn't know shit about shit.
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on October 06, 2015, 05:01:50 PM
Make you wonder, in trouble with who.
The people who make the plans and announce them when they're ready to be announced?
Or Santa Claus?
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You could make just as good an argument he is being as truthful as humanly possible. He's not saying shit about shit because he doesn't know shit about shit.
Or he can read.
So he knows that if he says "Oh yeah, GN'R will tour in 2016", it'll lead to this: "Richard Fortus confirms GN'R reunion tour for 2016" because of all the reunion speculation taking place at the moment.
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on October 06, 2015, 05:01:50 PM
Makes you wonder, in trouble with who.
The people who make the plans and announce them when they're ready to be announced?
Or Santa Claus?
/jarmo
Or management or Axl or Del or their publicist.
Was Santa Claus really necessary.
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