THEORY - axl saving chi dem 2 songs for possible reunion album???

[AxlsMainMan]

wow, we drifted off topic a bit   

I couldn't deal with reading every post, but here's my 2cents

to answer the original question. Yes, I think it's possible, IF of course, Axl made a new GNR album with Slash and Duff,  that some of the CD era songs could be included. I think we'd see more of a UYI type album, where you had rockers blended in with some complex and philosophical songs. I don't think you'd see a situation where Slash and Duff are going to re-record parts of finished CD songs. I think they would want to approach the said record as a new project. Slash and Duff write fast.... I'm sure it would be a mixed bag. Of course I didn't mention Izzy, If he is there, than god bless that too. I don't think the old members are going to simply fall in line and continue with the current vibe of GNR and act as nothing more than replacements for DJ,Ron, or Tommy. Anyone holding out for that, than good luck with that. 

The Appetite line up was the first to release an album/publish music, and was the first line up recognized by the world as Guns N' Roses. The previous line up didn't leave much behind at all. While they may be technically the first, they didn't do enough that we have to stop and explain this to everyone when they say classic or original  GNR. Why are we even having this discussion? GNR would be nowhere without the lighting in a bottle the AFD line up captured. It's not going to happen like that ever again. They are all brilliant musicians, I prefer Axl's music to theirs, but they are no doubt all great.

 

Yes, this thread has been hijacked with the very old, and very cliche, "who are guns and roses" argument. ANYWAY...my original question is,simply this... does anyone think axl has anything in the vault he hast released, or maybe even hasn't RECORDED, because he's holding it to possibly collaborate on with izzy, slash, or duff?

I guess it is because your theory is really odd to say the least. The first time Axl spoke about CD was 2001! Now you are saying that CD 2 was not released because Axl has the "brilliant" idea of remaking that album with Slash, Duff, Izzy and Adler or Sorum.

Marc Canter has said Axl wanted Slash on 2-3 Chinese Democracy songs around 2000/2001, so the theory really isn't that odd.

[Princess Leia]

I know what Marc has said. Slash as a guest on GN`R album. It is a bit odd. But when someone says that Axl hasn`t released CD II because he wants not only Slash but everyone from the old band to make an entire album recording a bunch of songs that other people wrote that`s just ridiculous.

If Axl wants a new album with the old band then they have to write new songs.

Besides we don`t know what happened with the so called CDII. Axl said back in 2001 that they were making it. However since then all we know about CD II is a bunch of titles. The only full song we have heard is Going Down.

[Annie]

I would not give any credence to anything Marc Canter has to say about anything.  Truth!

[AHUGEAxlFan]

There probably won't be a reunion album. I'm sure there will a few reunion shows, then after the reunion, guns n roses will take off where it ended in 2014 with 2 new guitarist, release CD2, tour etc.

[dmathski]

There probably won't be a reunion album. I'm sure there will a few reunion shows, then after the reunion, guns n roses will take off where it ended in 2014 with 2 new guitarist, release CD2, tour etc.

That's played out. I would be small clubs like 2k people

[kyrie]

Axl pasted Bumblefoot solos over the Chinese Democracy I songs.
Why wouldn't he paste Slash solos onto the Chinese Democracy II songs?
Say what you want about Slash -- he comes up with good guitar solos.

Slash comes up with great guitar solos. And because he is Slash it is not fair to paste.  What you can do is to ask him to write new solos and make new songs

I know this is a late reply but - I actually feel Slash just contributing solos is the best option for all parties. If it was Izzy I'd feel different. However if Slash is to be involved in any new GNR recordings I'd prefer he just lay down solos. He's a so-so songwriter; solos are what he's great at. Coming in and adding them to existing songs plays to his strength.

[AHUGEAxlFan]

He wouldn't paste slashs cover over CD2 songs becuase he doesn't play that style. That's why he left gnr...

[AHUGEAxlFan]

Axl pasted Bumblefoot solos over the Chinese Democracy I songs.
Why wouldn't he paste Slash solos onto the Chinese Democracy II songs?
Say what you want about Slash -- he comes up with good guitar solos.

Slash comes up with great guitar solos. And because he is Slash it is not fair to paste.  What you can do is to ask him to write new solos and make new songs

I know this is a late reply but - I actually feel Slash just contributing solos is the best option for all parties. If it was Izzy I'd feel different. However if Slash is to be involved in any new GNR recordings I'd prefer he just lay down solos. He's a so-so songwriter; solos are what he's great at. Coming in and adding them to existing songs plays to his strength.

that would be a total slap in the face to what amazing work bucket/Robin have already written. Slash could play them live but atleast have the writers on the album.

[raindogs70]

Axl pasted Bumblefoot solos over the Chinese Democracy I songs.
Why wouldn't he paste Slash solos onto the Chinese Democracy II songs?
Say what you want about Slash -- he comes up with good guitar solos.

Slash comes up with great guitar solos. And because he is Slash it is not fair to paste.  What you can do is to ask him to write new solos and make new songs

I know this is a late reply but - I actually feel Slash just contributing solos is the best option for all parties. If it was Izzy I'd feel different. However if Slash is to be involved in any new GNR recordings I'd prefer he just lay down solos. He's a so-so songwriter; solos are what he's great at. Coming in and adding them to existing songs plays to his strength.

that would be a total slap in the face to what amazing work bucket/Robin have already written. Slash could play them live but atleast have the writers on the album.

All unreleased songs are subject to change and will depend on what the people in the room decide to do with them, and then they'll deal with the credits if and when they release the songs. It's hard to say with Buckethead because there seemed to be mutual bad feelings when he left and Bucket refused to sign copies of CD in the past, hopefully he'll just show up one night at a show and surprise the hell out of everyone.

[damnthehaters]

Axl pasted Bumblefoot solos over the Chinese Democracy I songs.
Why wouldn't he paste Slash solos onto the Chinese Democracy II songs?
Say what you want about Slash -- he comes up with good guitar solos.

Slash comes up with great guitar solos. And because he is Slash it is not fair to paste.  What you can do is to ask him to write new solos and make new songs

I know this is a late reply but - I actually feel Slash just contributing solos is the best option for all parties. If it was Izzy I'd feel different. However if Slash is to be involved in any new GNR recordings I'd prefer he just lay down solos. He's a so-so songwriter; solos are what he's great at. Coming in and adding them to existing songs plays to his strength.

that would be a total slap in the face to what amazing work bucket/Robin have already written. Slash could play them live but atleast have the writers on the album.

Was it not a slap in the face when Axl used Bumbles work over previous artists?  Was it not a slap in the face when he didn't use Brian Mays work?  So on and so on.  I don't think Axl is too worried about using whatever he thinks is the best. 

[AHUGEAxlFan]

Axl pasted Bumblefoot solos over the Chinese Democracy I songs.
Why wouldn't he paste Slash solos onto the Chinese Democracy II songs?
Say what you want about Slash -- he comes up with good guitar solos.

Slash comes up with great guitar solos. And because he is Slash it is not fair to paste.  What you can do is to ask him to write new solos and make new songs

I know this is a late reply but - I actually feel Slash just contributing solos is the best option for all parties. If it was Izzy I'd feel different. However if Slash is to be involved in any new GNR recordings I'd prefer he just lay down solos. He's a so-so songwriter; solos are what he's great at. Coming in and adding them to existing songs plays to his strength.

that would be a total slap in the face to what amazing work bucket/Robin have already written. Slash could play them live but atleast have the writers on the album.

Was it not a slap in the face when Axl used Bumbles work over previous artists?  Was it not a slap in the face when he didn't use Brian Mays work?  So on and so on.  I don't think Axl is too worried about using whatever he thinks is the best. 

yes, it was a slap in the face. I don't think slash or any other former member will be a official to stay member of the band. I think just for a reunion. I highly doubt anything will happen.

[AHUGEAxlFan]

And what happen with brain may and Ron, that was one song. Id be pissed off if brain wrote and played every CD solo, then have Bumblefoot cover it for the final work. Same with slash.

Honesty, I don't think the reunion will effect the new album and the current band in anyway

[LIGuns]

Axl pasted Bumblefoot solos over the Chinese Democracy I songs.
Why wouldn't he paste Slash solos onto the Chinese Democracy II songs?
Say what you want about Slash -- he comes up with good guitar solos


I would think Slash is too much of an accomplished guitarist to paste his parts into a GNR song...

[AHUGEAxlFan]

Then again, we are debating shit that may or may not ever happen. Like I said, I don't think slash will effect current GNRS further plans.

Hell, atleast let gnr confirm a reunion before we debate things that may or may not happen.

[TheBaconman]

Axl pasted Bumblefoot solos over the Chinese Democracy I songs.
Why wouldn't he paste Slash solos onto the Chinese Democracy II songs?
Say what you want about Slash -- he comes up with good guitar solos.

Slash comes up with great guitar solos. And because he is Slash it is not fair to paste.  What you can do is to ask him to write new solos and make new songs

I know this is a late reply but - I actually feel Slash just contributing solos is the best option for all parties. If it was Izzy I'd feel different. However if Slash is to be involved in any new GNR recordings I'd prefer he just lay down solos. He's a so-so songwriter; solos are what he's great at. Coming in and adding them to existing songs plays to his strength.

that would be a total slap in the face to what amazing work bucket/Robin have already written. Slash could play them live but atleast have the writers on the album.

Was it not a slap in the face when Axl used Bumbles work over previous artists?  Was it not a slap in the face when he didn't use Brian Mays work?  So on and so on.  I don't think Axl is too worried about using whatever he thinks is the best. 

Yep

Then Brian May in interview saying, he really didn't know why they didn't use his work

Did all the over dubs just come down to money?

Hey you want to be in my band, I really don't want to pay you lots, but if you record some things on this album you will get some royalties   

Sure that was some of it

[ThatGuy]

doesnt really sound like that crazy of an idea now, no?

[hartman]

The CD era is over. Get over it.

Axl, Slash, Duff and hopefully Izzy are writing a new GNR chapter now. 

[ThatGuy]

The CD era is over. Get over it.

Axl, Slash, Duff and hopefully Izzy are writing a new GNR chapter now.

you think just because axl might not be releasing whatever "chidem2" was supposed to be, that he will just toss all the lyrics and whatever melodies he wrote in the toilet?  they could quite easily use those lyrics for slash/izzy/duff to write music to.  has nothing to do with "CD era".  the songs have never been release or heard by the public, they can be changed to whatever the band wants and none of us would know which "era" they are from. 

[hartman]

The CD era is over. Get over it.

Axl, Slash, Duff and hopefully Izzy are writing a new GNR chapter now.

you think just because axl might not be releasing whatever "chidem2" was supposed to be, that he will just toss all the lyrics and whatever melodies he wrote in the toilet?  they could quite easily use those lyrics for slash/izzy/duff to write music to.  has nothing to do with "CD era".  the songs have never been release or heard by the public, they can be changed to whatever the band wants and none of us would know which "era" they are from. 

You might be right, but I was specifically answering to this message posted on November 15 :

Honesty, I don't think the reunion will effect the new album and the current band in anyway.

[ice cream sand pig]

where oh where can our album be
want a follow up to CD
the old band came along and now its unclear
if CD2 is something that well e-e-e-e-ver hear