Tommy Stinson article - September 2, 2015

[HBK]

I don't think Tommy is gone.  He said himself he didn't quit or walk away.  He sounds frustrated that after a year, when he's "reached out", he still doesn't know what is going on.

It's almost the same thing Richard said this July...

GUNS N' ROSES Guitarist RICHARD FORTUS Says Band's Current Status Is 'Pretty Up In The Air'

July 21, 2015

"The last I heard they wanted to finish up the recordings that we have and put them out next year and start touring. But it has been a while since I've heard from anybody in that camp as far as management or Axl. So I really don't know."

After Richard said this he heard from management.  Maybe Tommy will get a call now as well.

Good Point FM

 

[Virolec]

Well, I suppose it puts in perspective when us fans feel we're not getting told much about the band, when people in the actual band don't know either. 

[norway]

I agree..the phrasing is vague. But it can be read more than one way. 

Duh...and this alternative reading (seeing hidden meaning) is the only thing that suggest he is out in a interview where he says 'I didn't quit the band'. Yes? Cause I, as Funky also points out, see nothing new here or anything that suggest Tommy has been kicked out from the band. I see a 'vague' (alleged) phrase being interpret in a reunion-theory pretty much out of nowhere. While it can be so I think it is very unlikely. We'll see soon enough.

[EmilyGNR]

I agree..the phrasing is vague. But it can be read more than one way. 

Duh...and this alternative reading (seeing hidden meaning) is the only thing that suggest he is out in a interview where he says 'I didn't quit the band'. Yes? Cause I, as Funky also points out, see nothing new here or anything that suggest Tommy has been kicked out from the band. I see a 'vague' (alleged) phrase being interpret in a reunion-theory pretty much out of nowhere. While it can be so I think it is very unlikely. We'll see soon enough.

Pilferk is right, Tommy clearly mentions leaving it in Vegas- nobody anywhere used the phrase 'kicked out' so I don't know how that is relevant.

Here's a fun thought, couldn't you say Tommy 'left' to play those replacement shows In SA and the GG?   

Semantics wars- only the strong survive! 

[FunkyMonkey]

Pilferk is right, Tommy clearly mentions leaving it in Vegas

Everybody left it in Las Vegas.  For now.

[norway]

Pilferk is right,

In what? That Tommy is out of the band? We'll see about that.

With no ill regards/bad feelings I can say I will remember this. It's a bit ...>>> no offense

nobody anywhere used the phrase 'kicked out' so I don't know how that is relevant.

If 'I didn't quit band' what option is it?

Here's a fun thought, couldn't you say Tommy 'left' to play those replacement shows In SA and the GG?   

*wonders if being trolled or not*

[EmilyGNR]

Pilferk is right,

In what? That Tommy is out of the band? We'll see about that.

With no ill regards/bad feelings I can say I will remember this. It's a bit ...>>> no offense

nobody anywhere used the phrase 'kicked out' so I don't know how that is relevant.

If 'I didn't quit band' what option is it?

You said 'kicked out' nobody, anywhere said anything about kicked out.

Here's a fun thought, couldn't you say Tommy 'left' to play those replacement shows In SA and the GG?   

*wonders if being trolled or not*
[/quote]



How is that a troll? Simply an alternate semantics situational possibility.

[norway]

j00 answer?

just gonna say 'not in this lifetime', tnx *moves slowly out of the discussion* I'll b back

[C0ma]

I agree..the phrasing is vague. But it can be read more than one way. 

Duh...and this alternative reading (seeing hidden meaning) is the only thing that suggest he is out in a interview where he says 'I didn't quit the band'. Yes? Cause I, as Funky also points out, see nothing new here or anything that suggest Tommy has been kicked out from the band. I see a 'vague' (alleged) phrase being interpret in a reunion-theory pretty much out of nowhere. While it can be so I think it is very unlikely. We'll see soon enough.

No one said kicked out, and he said he didn't quit... BUT he speaks in the past tense about the band and has proven with his words that he is out of the loop... yet if we are to believe other members interviews, they are in the loop. Frank says he has texted and received responses from Axl, yet Tommy says he asks and gets no insight. I find it odd that the most tenured member not named Axl or Dizzy is less 'in the loop' than the least tenured member of the band (Frank).

You can read into that any way you want, I tend to find more circumstantial evidence that he is out than he is in... yet I really know nothing and am just reading internet tea leaves, so...

[EmilyGNR]

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[Lucky]

 :smoking:Ot, but Im kind of sad for him and Pitman. Although they were in The band for nearly 20 years, and lived to see CD released, theyve completely missed on joy of releasing an album. The videos, interviews and oportunity to brag to all that its theirs as well It was their oportunity to "put them sealvea on the map as legit members... and give em deserved fame... Instead they are still deep under axls shadow

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

Thats cause nobody on earth cares about Pitman.
As for Stinson: Dont know. I can imagine if he really wanted to come forward and do interviews, nobody wouldve stopped him.

[pilferk]

If 'I didn't quit band' what option is it?

In business:

You can quit, you can be fired, and your contract/time can be up.

He basically said it's not 1 or 2...and implies that #3 has happened.

[FunkyMonkey]

You can quit, you can be fired, and your contract/time can be up.

He basically said it's not 1 or 2...and implies that #3 has happened.

If his contract was up, he'd know it, right?

?I reach out once in a while to that crew of people ? a lot of whom are also my good friends ? but I really have no idea what?s going on,?

[C0ma]

If 'I didn't quit band' what option is it?

In business:

You can quit, you can be fired, and your contract/time can be up.

He basically said it's not 1 or 2...and implies that #3 has happened.

Look back at the Robin Fink stories, his original departure was due to his 2 year contract being up and no music being released. I wouldn't doubt that they were all on similar short to mid term length contracts and maybe most (or all of them) ended in 2014 and (some or all) haven't been re-addressed since.

[C0ma]

You can quit, you can be fired, and your contract/time can be up.

He basically said it's not 1 or 2...and implies that #3 has happened.

If his contract was up, he'd know it, right?

?I reach out once in a while to that crew of people ? a lot of whom are also my good friends ? but I really have no idea what?s going on,?

He could be reaching out to see when they are going to renegotiate and get back out there and gets no substantive response.

[FunkyMonkey]

You can quit, you can be fired, and your contract/time can be up.

He basically said it's not 1 or 2...and implies that #3 has happened.

If his contract was up, he'd know it, right?

?I reach out once in a while to that crew of people ? a lot of whom are also my good friends ? but I really have no idea what?s going on,?

He could be reaching out to see when they are going to renegotiate and get back out there and gets no substantive response.

There's no indication he's renegotiating.  Getting no substantive response as to what is going on, that's not surprising. 

[pilferk]

If his contract was up, he'd know it, right?

?I reach out once in a while to that crew of people ? a lot of whom are also my good friends ? but I really have no idea what?s going on,?

Sure he would. Which is, maybe, why he phrased things the way he did.  But, again, he might not want to have to answer the obvious questions that would go along with giving that as an answer.  So maybe he's being a bit coy (which, FYI, I totally think is his perogative).

As for the reaching out..maybe to figure out what's going on/renegotiate, possibly/see if there's plans they might want him for. He also feels the need to mention that he's good friends with some of them, as if to imply he'd contact them no matter what his status is with the band.  And, as he said, if they were getting the modern lineup back together, he'd "consider it".  

Well, to "consider it", it would have to mean he has the option to say yes or no.  If he was still under contract, or a full, active member...I'm not sure there's anything to consider. Is there? You just go.

[pilferk]

Pilferk is right,

In what? That Tommy is out of the band? We'll see about that.

1) Pilferk thinks it's POSSIBLE Tommy is out of the band.  Lets at least portray my opinion the right way. I also view that separately from any reunion talk because one doesn't instantly mean the other.

2) She's very clear on what she thinks I'm right about...so the convenient clip of the quote is sort of misleading...no offense.

Pilferk is right, Tommy clearly mentions leaving it in Vegas- nobody anywhere used the phrase 'kicked out' so I don't know how that is relevant.

[pilferk]

You can quit, you can be fired, and your contract/time can be up.

He basically said it's not 1 or 2...and implies that #3 has happened.

If his contract was up, he'd know it, right?

?I reach out once in a while to that crew of people ? a lot of whom are also my good friends ? but I really have no idea what?s going on,?

He could be reaching out to see when they are going to renegotiate and get back out there and gets no substantive response.

There's no indication he's renegotiating.  Getting no substantive response as to what is going on, that's not surprising. 

Except...apparently Frank and Richard have gotten "substantive response".

Or, again, we go back to a person's personal comfort level with what is substantive and what isn't, and what information is considered "knowing" and what isn't.

We just don't know (no pun intended).  Which is why, until someone says something more concrete, there will be speculation.

Speculation, FYI, that Tommy could stop in just a few words:

"I'm still a member of Guns n Roses".