Tommy Stinson article - September 2, 2015

[EmilyGNR]

I have heard rumors, and I think it's very valid, but have heard no specifics.

Give us a source.  When did you hear these rumors.

Was simply responding to Pilferk's comment, maybe you need to reread the conversation to understand the context.

[Will]

The plot thickens.  But I think its encouraging.

Let's talk about it in a few weeks, I'm sure nothing will be announced. About this article/ interview, I just understand the band is on hiatus, which is pretty obvious since July 2014. I don't see anything new.

Has anyone even seen a picture of Axl Rose since July 2014? It's been more than a year and I doubt he spent that time talking to Slash or whatever.

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

What makes u doubt it? You know axls daily schedule?

[pilferk]

Its a pretty obvious conclusion giving his phrasing.

People seem to (illogilcly)) interpret him to fit into a reunion-theory.

It shouldn't come as a suprise but it looks parts in the article itself is written to suggest a gnr-reunion. It's hot news and a public demand.

I also think, at this point, Tommy does not consider himself an active member of GnR.

What does it mean? 'active member' They all just left after Vegas. He hasn't quit as he stated, unlike others. So what is it? He is kicked from the band to be replaced by Duff? Thats what you are suggesting?

 To this I am gonna give you all a big fat LOL!

No, i'm saying he considers his time with the band at a logical end. His own words would lead you to that conclusion.

And if they came to him with a proposal, he would consider rejoining. But it would not be a sure thing, or even a most likely thing.

But..rejoining means...not currently joined with.

Laugh all you want. You said you don't "understand" , wondering what you mssed and why people think what they are thinking. It's been expkained, now. It has logical and semantic grounds. You can disagree..,but you should at least understand where the other folks are coming from.

[pilferk]

The way he phrased it..while he did not quit, or get fired...his part pretty much ended in vegas.

Tommy Stinson: "I reach out once in a while to that crew of people ? a lot of whom are also my good friends ? but I really have no idea what's going on," he said. "I didn't quit the gig or walk away from it. We just all sort of left it in [Las] Vegas."

Because if thats what it is...."hey, we're all on a little break but we'll regroup at some point"...thats what you say, and how you say it

He didn't. I agree..the phrasing is vague. But it can be read more than one way.  Yes..we all.

Except Frank and Richard, apparently.

And the rest of the "we" walked away, for good, it sounds.

So...yeah...when you say "we" and in the next breath say "i'd consider it if the modern lineup cones back together", rather than saying "i'll be ready when the break is over, whenever that is"...yes, i think theres a connotation there that people are going to take away.

If you don't, or want to wait for something more concrete, before you even entertain the notion..fait enough.

[GypsySoul]

Glass half full people!!! 

Didn't the same thing happen for a significant time period before Chinese Democracy was released?  The other band members were doing their own thing while Axl and whomever were busy mixing n' mastering n' doing whatever on the business end of getting the album released.

I take this "recess" by the other band members as a positive indication that their parts of CD II are done and the only thing left to do is the technical/business stuff that doesn't involve them and therefore allows them this time to hone their craft in whatever way they see fit until GNR is again ready to tour or whatever to promote the release of CD II.

   

[rebelhipi]

Has anyone even seen a picture of Axl Rose since July 2014?

Nope.
Its quite an accomplishment for someone that famous to be so much out of the public eye.

I think between Japan 2007 and Taiwan 2009 not a single pic of him got out.

[HBK]

Glass half full people!!! 

Didn't the same thing happen for a significant time period before Chinese Democracy was released?  The other band members were doing their own thing while Axl and whomever were busy mixing n' mastering n' doing whatever on the business end of getting the album released.

I take this "recess" by the other band members as a positive indication that their parts of CD II are done and the only thing left to do is the technical/business stuff that doesn't involve them and therefore allows them this time to hone their craft in whatever way they see fit until GNR is again ready to tour or whatever to promote the release of CD II.

   

Yes Sr.

 

[FunkyMonkey]

Except Frank and Richard, apparently.

And the rest of the "we" walked away, for good, it sounds.

So you're saying Dizzy and Pitman are gone as well?

The band consists right now of Richard, Frank and Axl?

[Princess Leia]

Except Frank and Richard, apparently.

And the rest of the "we" walked away, for good, it sounds.

So you're saying Dizzy and Pitman are gone as well?

The band consists right now of Richard, Frank and Axl?

I don?t think it is a matter of what we are saying. It is about what Tommy seems to be saying. Honestly I?m having a BBF deja vu with this Tommy interview

[RnT]

Maybe it?s a stupid question, but didn?t Tommy used to follow GNR and Axl on twitter? Well, he doesn?t follow them now

[Ginger King]

Maybe it?s a stupid question, but didn?t Tommy used to follow GNR and Axl on twitter? Well, he doesn?t follow them now

Oh, snap, a Twitter burn! I'm now more convinced than ever.

Seriously, as Princess said, this is BBF deja vu all over again (albeit with much less passive aggressive antics).  Tommy.  Is.  Out.   

[EmilyGNR]

Its a pretty obvious conclusion giving his phrasing.

People seem to (illogilcly)) interpret him to fit into a reunion-theory.

It shouldn't come as a suprise but it looks parts in the article itself is written to suggest a gnr-reunion. It's hot news and a public demand.

I also think, at this point, Tommy does not consider himself an active member of GnR.

What does it mean? 'active member' They all just left after Vegas. He hasn't quit as he stated, unlike others. So what is it? He is kicked from the band to be replaced by Duff? Thats what you are suggesting?

 To this I am gonna give you all a big fat LOL!

No, i'm saying he considers his time with the band at a logical end. His own words would lead you to that conclusion.

And if they came to him with a proposal, he would consider rejoining. But it would not be a sure thing, or even a most likely thing.

But..rejoining means...not currently joined with.

Laugh all you want. You said you don't "understand" , wondering what you mssed and why people think what they are thinking. It's been expkained, now. It has logical and semantic grounds. You can disagree..,but you should at least understand where the other folks are coming from.

Agree with Pilferk, Great synopsis and summary. 

[sky dog]

Nothing was delivered
And I tell this truth to you
Not out of spite or anger
But simply because it?s true
Now, I hope you won?t object to this
Giving back all of what you owe
The fewer words you have to waste on this
The sooner you can go

Nothing is better, nothing is best
Take heed of this and get plenty of rest

Nothing was delivered
But I can?t say I sympathize
With what your fate is going to be
Yes, for telling all those lies
Now you must provide some answers
For what you sell has not been received
And the sooner you come up with them
The sooner you can leave

Nothing is better, nothing is best
Take heed of this and get plenty rest

(Now you know)
Nothing was delivered
And it?s up to you to say
Just what you had in mind
When you made ev?rybody pay
No, nothing was delivered
Yes, ?n? someone must explain
That as long as it takes to do this
Then that?s how long that you?ll remain

Nothing is better, nothing is best
Take heed of this and get plenty rest



Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/nothing-was-delivered#ixzz3l3mq1odA

[pilferk]

Except Frank and Richard, apparently.

And the rest of the "we" walked away, for good, it sounds.

So you're saying Dizzy and Pitman are gone as well?

The band consists right now of Richard, Frank and Axl?

The keyboards never count. :p

But......how about a "good sized chunk of we walked away, for good, it seems"

Honestly, if thats the biggest objection to my point....not counting dizzy and pittman in a monentary lapse....i'm good with it.

Edit: i'd also point out that Dizzy isn't necessarily part of "we", since he crosses between modern and uyi lineups. So it would depend what tommy meant by "we", i guess.

[Ja5oN]

Dizzy isn't going anywhere.....

[pilferk]

Dizzy isn't going anywhere.....

I don't think anyone was really suggesting he was.

[Ja5oN]

Except Frank and Richard, apparently.

And the rest of the "we" walked away, for good, it sounds.

So you're saying Dizzy and Pitman are gone as well?

The band consists right now of Richard, Frank and Axl?

[pilferk]

Except Frank and Richard, apparently.

And the rest of the "we" walked away, for good, it sounds.

So you're saying Dizzy and Pitman are gone as well?

The band consists right now of Richard, Frank and Axl?

He was pointing out i forgot them (i did..literally.for a sec).

Oversight and corrected. So, yeah...nobody was suggesting he did/would. Not really.

[FunkyMonkey]

I don't think Tommy is gone.  He said himself he didn't quit or walk away.  He sounds frustrated that after a year, when he's "reached out", he still doesn't know what is going on.

It's almost the same thing Richard said this July...

GUNS N' ROSES Guitarist RICHARD FORTUS Says Band's Current Status Is 'Pretty Up In The Air'

July 21, 2015

"The last I heard they wanted to finish up the recordings that we have and put them out next year and start touring. But it has been a while since I've heard from anybody in that camp as far as management or Axl. So I really don't know."

After Richard said this he heard from management.  Maybe Tommy will get a call now as well.