Tommy Stinson article - September 2, 2015

[norway]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

[sofine11]

Jarmo, do you see a Slash return in 2016? Or is this whole thing just getting blown way out of proportion?

No idea.
Recently we've only heard one side talk briefly about whatever has gone on between the two people involved.
So until we hear more.... I agree with those that say if nothing else comes out of that piece of news, then it's good enough.



/jarmo

You do realize that if this pans out, you may taking photos and touring with one of the biggest events in history.  There's no way that doesn't appeal to you. 

[norway]

You do realize that if this pans out, you may taking photos and touring with one of the biggest events in history.

possibly the biggest sellout ever

[HBK]

HBK- have you read the article?? He says he doesn't know what's going on. He's out of the loop in knowing.

If you've seen anything he has posted over the last several years he speaks very little English, he just highlighted a small piece of the sentence leaving out all context by not highlighting 'of the loop and uses past tense when talking about GNR'... he focused simply on Today, Tommy Stinson says he's out.

It is ESL, cut him a little break, he does better here than if I had to communicate on a Spanish or Portuguese fan forum.

Dude, chill out. I didn't know. I don't keep track of who knows English well and who doesn't. If I  see one part of a sentence being bolded then I'm going to assume that person knows English and is trying to twist things around.

Wait News From GNR

 

[sky dog]

Sorry guys, "not the biggest event in history" or "the biggest sellout ever".

For God's sake, can we just wait and see what happens before Guns parts the Red Sea? 

[pilferk]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

He actually didn't say he was positive he would go.

He said he'd have to consider it (aka think about it) if they offered.

That means..he's NOT positive he'd keep going.

[jarmo]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

He actually didn't say he was positive he would go.

He said he'd have to consider it (aka think about it) if they offered.

That means..he's NOT positive he'd keep going.

It makes sense. Until he knows what the plans are, how can he say he'll be there for sure?




/jarmo

[Gibbo27]

This band has great communicate 

[zombux]

sad to see another guy fed up and leave, but no wonder. nobody wants to spend half his life underground, releasing 1 album in nearly 20 years.

[Spirit]

sad to see another guy fed up and leave, but no wonder. nobody wants to spend half his life underground, releasing 1 album in nearly 20 years.

I don't think Tommy sees that as a problem for him personally. The members have always been free to do whatever they want outside of Guns and Tommy has released more than 1 album in the past 20 years. He doesn't spend his life underground..

What Axl chooses to do with Guns N Roses doesn't affect Tommy's output whether he's in the band or not.

[JAEBALL]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

He actually didn't say he was positive he would go.

He said he'd have to consider it (aka think about it) if they offered.

That means..he's NOT positive he'd keep going.

It makes sense. Until he knows what the plans are, how can he say he'll be there for sure?




/jarmo

I don't buy that he doesn't know... and if he does know that there indeed isn't a plan yet... then Frank and Richard are liars... so which one is it?

When you consider that Frank and Tommy are currently working together, I don't buy that one knows and the other doesn't.

[JAEBALL]

sad to see another guy fed up and leave, but no wonder. nobody wants to spend half his life underground, releasing 1 album in nearly 20 years.

I don't think Tommy sees that as a problem for him personally. The members have always been free to do whatever they want outside of Guns and Tommy has released more than 1 album in the past 20 years. He doesn't spend his life underground..

What Axl chooses to do with Guns N Roses doesn't affect Tommy's output whether he's in the band or not.

I agree... he seems like a guy who genuinely doesn't care if it picks up again or not, he will do music for a living either way ... he seems to have no issue passing the mantle back to Mr. Mckagan either.

[JAEBALL]

Btw this could just be complete coincidence and circumstance, but Duff has been very quiet the past few weeks.. no interviews, not many tweets or anything.. He's usually more "out there".

[jarmo]

I don't buy that he doesn't know... and if he does know that there indeed isn't a plan yet... then Frank and Richard are liars... so which one is it?

When you consider that Frank and Tommy are currently working together, I don't buy that one knows and the other doesn't.

Once again, what Frank and Richard has said doesn't make them liars based on this.
They might all know about the general plans for the next year, but they don't know the specifics. Tommy's not committing to something he doesn't know the specifics of.

That's why he's giving that answer.
Now, hypothetically speaking without knowing anything, imagine if he had said he'd be there and then later hears that GN'R plans to use Duff for whatever the plans are? After all, they can read the same rumors we can on the Internet.





/jarmo

[EmilyGNR]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

He actually didn't say he was positive he would go.

He said he'd have to consider it (aka think about it) if they offered.

That means..he's NOT positive he'd keep going.

It makes sense. Until he knows what the plans are, how can he say he'll be there for sure?




/jarmo

I don't buy that he doesn't know... and if he does know that there indeed isn't a plan yet... then Frank and Richard are liars... so which one is it?

When you consider that Frank and Tommy are currently working together, I don't buy that one knows and the other doesn't.

Why so quick to label people liars when you don't know the whole story and aren't privvy to details? Not Cool   

[JAEBALL]

I don't buy that he doesn't know... and if he does know that there indeed isn't a plan yet... then Frank and Richard are liars... so which one is it?

When you consider that Frank and Tommy are currently working together, I don't buy that one knows and the other doesn't.

Once again, what Frank and Richard has said doesn't make them liars based on this.
They might all know about the general plans for the next year, but they don't know the specifics. Tommy's not committing to something he doesn't know the specifics of.

That's why he's giving that answer.
Now, hypothetically speaking without knowing anything, imagine if he had said he'd be there and then later hears that GN'R plans to use Duff for whatever the plans are? After all, they can read the same rumors we can on the Internet.





/jarmo

They have very different stories, that's all I'm trying to convey. It is very curious to say the least.

Richard and Frank seem very gun ho that they are part of the future plans, and Tommy doesn't seem to have a clue.

[Ginger King]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

He actually didn't say he was positive he would go.

He said he'd have to consider it (aka think about it) if they offered.

That means..he's NOT positive he'd keep going.

It makes sense. Until he knows what the plans are, how can he say he'll be there for sure?




/jarmo

I don't buy that he doesn't know... and if he does know that there indeed isn't a plan yet... then Frank and Richard are liars... so which one is it?

When you consider that Frank and Tommy are currently working together, I don't buy that one knows and the other doesn't.

Why so quick to label people liars when you don't know the whole story and aren't privvy to details? Not Cool   

Because I think it?s reasonable to conclude that Tommy knows what GnR?s plans are?if Frank knows how can he not?  I think he knows the plans don?t involve him and he?s taking the high road by saying if the modern lineup ever gets back together (read: it?s not together now) he?d consider joining (read: he?s not in the band now).

[C0ma]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

He actually didn't say he was positive he would go.

He said he'd have to consider it (aka think about it) if they offered.

That means..he's NOT positive he'd keep going.

It makes sense. Until he knows what the plans are, how can he say he'll be there for sure?




/jarmo

I don't buy that he doesn't know... and if he does know that there indeed isn't a plan yet... then Frank and Richard are liars... so which one is it?

When you consider that Frank and Tommy are currently working together, I don't buy that one knows and the other doesn't.

Why so quick to label people liars when you don't know the whole story and aren't privvy to details? Not Cool   

I think labeling them as liars is wrong... but I think the whole situation is curious to say the least.

When the news of DJ and Ron leaving officially hit, Ron was quick to say that he was in contact with Axl and things look good for 2016
Shortly that after Richard comments about how big things are coming in 2016 (admittedly this was after he made a comment not dissimilar to what Tommy just said).
Then Tommy in an interview uses past tense when talking GnR, intimates that he has reached out to the camp, yet got no info back.

There is either some crossed wires about what can and can't (should and shouldn't) be spoken about publicly, OR the two most junior (remaining) members of the band are more in the loop than the longest tenured member of any lineup not named Axl or Dizzy. Based on the info we have it is impossible to determine as fact what the situation is currently, but with the 'dots' we have been given you can connect them and they make a picture...

[EmilyGNR]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

He actually didn't say he was positive he would go.

He said he'd have to consider it (aka think about it) if they offered.

That means..he's NOT positive he'd keep going.

It makes sense. Until he knows what the plans are, how can he say he'll be there for sure?




/jarmo

I don't buy that he doesn't know... and if he does know that there indeed isn't a plan yet... then Frank and Richard are liars... so which one is it?

When you consider that Frank and Tommy are currently working together, I don't buy that one knows and the other doesn't.

Why so quick to label people liars when you don't know the whole story and aren't privvy to details? Not Cool   

Because I think it?s reasonable to conclude that Tommy knows what GnR?s plans are?if Frank knows how can he not?  I think he knows the plans don?t involve him and he?s taking the high road by saying if the modern lineup ever gets back together (read: it?s not together now) he?d consider joining (read: he?s not in the band now).

But you don't  KNOW that, you merely think that. It's a little harsh to arbitrarily label someone a liar.

[JAEBALL]

Tommy, while promoting his project, said 'I didn't quit the band' and indiquate he is positive to keep going with GNR when/if asked.

What am I missing?

He actually didn't say he was positive he would go.

He said he'd have to consider it (aka think about it) if they offered.

That means..he's NOT positive he'd keep going.

It makes sense. Until he knows what the plans are, how can he say he'll be there for sure?




/jarmo

I don't buy that he doesn't know... and if he does know that there indeed isn't a plan yet... then Frank and Richard are liars... so which one is it?

When you consider that Frank and Tommy are currently working together, I don't buy that one knows and the other doesn't.

Why so quick to label people liars when you don't know the whole story and aren't privvy to details? Not Cool   

I think labeling them as liars is wrong... but I think the whole situation is curious to say the least.

When the news of DJ and Ron leaving officially hit, Ron was quick to say that he was in contact with Axl and things look good for 2016
Shortly that after Richard comments about how big things are coming in 2016 (admittedly this was after he made a comment not dissimilar to what Tommy just said).
Then Tommy in an interview uses past tense when talking GnR, intimates that he has reached out to the camp, yet got no info back.

There is either some crossed wires about what can and can't (should and shouldn't) be spoken about publicly, OR the two most junior (remaining) members of the band are more in the loop than the longest tenured member of any lineup not named Axl or Dizzy. Based on the info we have it is impossible to determine as fact what the situation is currently, but with the 'dots' we have been given you can connect them and they make a picture...

Exactly... I'm sorry I used the word liar. Like you and I both said it just doesn't add up.