Tommy Stinson article - September 2, 2015

[HBK]

Only the GN'R parts, the rest of the article is about his new solo band (which includes Frank) and the Replacements:




Tommy Stinson: Replacements run was 'special' but it's time to move on
The Replacements and GNR bassist is ready to leave his old band (or bands?) behind for a new solo venture.
By Chris Riemenschneider Star Tribune
September 2, 2015 ? 11:41am

Since he?s more interested in talking about his new band coming to the Turf Club next Saturday, Tommy Stinson offered these short answers to the two most-heard questions about the old bands he is probably leaving behind:

1) Ask Axl.

2) Ask Paul?s T-shirts.

?At this point, they probably have their own [publicists],? the veteran bassist joked of his Replacements bandmate Paul Westerberg?s letter-encoded white T?s.

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Decoding Axl Rose is a whole other matter.

Now 48, Tommy has been playing bass with Rose in Guns N? Roses since 1998. However, even before rumors started flying a few weeks ago about the late-?80s lineup of GNR getting back together, he said his status in the group was up in the air. His last GNR gig was April 2014 in Las Vegas.

?I reach out once in a while to that crew of people ? a lot of whom are also my good friends ? but I really have no idea what?s going on,? he said, clarifying at least this much: ?I didn?t quit the gig or walk away from it. We just all sort of left it in Vegas.?

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A postscript, if needed, on his stint in Guns N? Roses: ?I?ll be honest with you: [Axl Rose] was always very good to me, and it was always a really good gig. It wasn?t necessarily the easiest gig, but it was always good. I have nothing but gratitude for it. If they got [the modern lineup] together again and wanted me to play, of course I?d have to think about it.?

Full article: http://www.startribune.com/tommy-stinson-replacements-run-was-special-but-it-s-time-to-move-on/323903361/




/jarmo

1) Last GNR Gig Las Vegas 2014 ?

2) The Modern Line Up ?

Much Drinking Tommy

 

[pilferk]

Nah.


The band hasn't anything announced at the moment. Of course some will jump to conclusions based on what Tommy said. But things can change quickly.

/jarmo

Agree that things can change quickly.  As for what Tommy said...as I've said, I'm not 100% at "he's gone", but that's the implication.  Whether the implication is legit,  a matter of poor phrasing, or an interviewer looking for a headline...that I don't know yet.

But I think there are inevitable "what ifs", and discussions, that come from this interview.   More so than even the DJ and BBF announcements....because I think Tommy "meant more" to this incarnation of GnR than either of those guys did.  IF the implication is at all true, it pretty much speaks to some sort of paradigm shift for the band.  That, to be, is a BFD.

I'm being VERY careful to phrase my comments in such a way that I convey there is definitely some "unsureness" and fluidity to the situation, and that it's all a great big fantasy "what if", at this point.  I'll continue to go that route, until we hear something more concrete or official.  But, as I said in the other thread...this morning, I was pretty sure we'd see a reunion when hell froze over.  Today...I think I see a few snow flurries (though it could just be some stray ash floating around).

For me, that's about as much movement, on that topic, again FOR ME, as I've had in about 20 years.

[Ginger King]

I almost feel like the Subject/topic heading jarmo used for this needs to be punched up.   Like "READ ME NOW"!!  Or "THIS IS POTENTIALLY A BFD".  I'm kidding..but only a bit....

Nah.


The band hasn't anything announced at the moment. Of course some will jump to conclusions based on what Tommy said. But things can change quickly.

/jarmo

Jump to what conclusion?  That Tommy's out of the band?  I mean, he did say:

"If they got [the modern lineup] together again and wanted me to play, of course I?d have to think about it.?

What other conclusion is there to draw?  Are we going to treat this like BBF and say there's no official announcement?  I'd say there's enough here to reasonably conclude Tommy is gone.

[D-GenerationX]

Allow me to spitball, in a totally off the wall outrageous unsubstantiated way:

Izzy, likely, isn't touring.  He's said it before..he hates it.

And Adler...well...I'm not sure everyone would be onboard with his reliability.

Would it make sense, then, for Richard and Frank to stick around?  If that was really the plan?

Again, totally spit balling some pure fantastical what ifs.

Thinking along similar lines.

[Ginger King]

He really seems to speaking about it in the past tense no?

Apparently he didn't get the same memo that Frank and richard got about big plans for 2016!

Every day I'm starting to believe a little bit more something is int he works.

Allow me to spitball, in a totally off the wall outrageous unsubstantiated way:

Izzy, likely, isn't touring.  He's said it before..he hates it.

And Adler...well...I'm not sure everyone would be onboard with his reliability.

Would it make sense, then, for Richard and Frank to stick around?  If that was really the plan?

Again, totally spit balling some pure fantastical what ifs.

I think you're exactly right...Richard and Frank got a different message than the rest.  They're going to be part of the tour (meaning no Izzy, Adler, or Sorum).  

[D-GenerationX]

What about CDII? Are Slash and Duff going to rewrite the songs and then record them again? Is CDII gonna be buried? Not my case at all but there are fans out there who care a lot more about CD II than about a reunion. And I don?t like the idea of Slash and Duff working on CDII. I?d rather have a new album with brand new songs written by them with Izzy collaboration in a song or two

I think its a very small number that care more about CD II than a reunion in any capacity.  An almost statistically insignificant number.

[D-GenerationX]

I think you're exactly right...Richard and Frank got a different message than the rest.  They're going to be part of the tour (meaning no Izzy, Adler, or Sorum).  

How about this?  Is this why Ron had to dummy up?

As in, they were told of this in 2014.  He decides he out ASAP, as of the last show.  They till him fine, and will pay him what he's owed...unless he blabs.

[Ginger King]

What about CDII? Are Slash and Duff going to rewrite the songs and then record them again? Is CDII gonna be buried? Not my case at all but there are fans out there who care a lot more about CD II than about a reunion. And I don?t like the idea of Slash and Duff working on CDII. I?d rather have a new album with brand new songs written by them with Izzy collaboration in a song or two

I think its a very small number that care more about CD II than a reunion in any capacity.  An almost statistically insignificant number.

I don't see why a reunion of the classic lineup would at all prohibit the release of songs that are "already recorded" and "been done for a while."  They don't need to be mutually exclusive things.  Release the CD leftovers and then tour with a reunited band.  That way, all GnR fans have something to be happy about.

[Nytunz]

Now im convinced. GN'R is the most dangerous band in the world. I dont know what to belive about the future of GNR right now, other that it will be very interesting to see whats comming. And it seams that things are right around the corner now

[D-GenerationX]

Now im convinced. GN'R is the most dangerous band in the world. I dont know what to belive about the future of GNR right now, other that it will be very interesting to see whats comming. And it seams that things are right around the corner now

If this pans out, its the most exciting thing to happen in the GNRverse in 20 years.

- Axl coming out of hibernation in 2001
- RIR III
- 2002 MTV Awards
- Axl re-emerging in 2006
- release of CD

All exciting at the time for their own reasons.  But all sharing one common denominator : its not the real band.

This would pass them all, standing still.

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

Its a lot more likely that Duff could replace Tommy, but even with that, and even if things between Axl n' Slash are "less frosty" (quoting Jarmo), doesn't meet Slash replaces DJ/Ron.  I think more likely would be a scenario in which Duff returns and we get two new guitar players to fill in the DJ and Ron slots...could be known or unknowns.  They release CD2, tour with this band.  And perhaps, sometime later in future, Slash would return to the fold to do a classic material tour.  The one thing I think will never happen is Axl and Slash working on new material together again.

[TheBaconman]

What about CDII? Are Slash and Duff going to rewrite the songs and then record them again? Is CDII gonna be buried? Not my case at all but there are fans out there who care a lot more about CD II than about a reunion. And I don?t like the idea of Slash and Duff working on CDII. I?d rather have a new album with brand new songs written by them with Izzy collaboration in a song or two

I think its a very small number that care more about CD II than a reunion in any capacity.  An almost statistically insignificant number.

I don't see why a reunion of the classic lineup would at all prohibit the release of songs that are "already recorded" and "been done for a while."  They don't need to be mutually exclusive things.  Release the CD leftovers and then tour with a reunited band.  That way, all GnR fans have something to be happy about.

So then you would have this reunited band promoting songs, it never even wrote or will probably never play live?

I am all for hearing new music, but I cant see that happeing if there is a reunion.

If there is a reunion, I dont think we will see any of the previous recorded music anytime soon

I think if the reunited band, cant write new music togther..  In a few years..  Thats when that vault would be opened up.

We would get some sorta "Ultimate" Chinease Democracy Album released.  

[jarmo]

Jump to what conclusion?  That Tommy's out of the band?  I mean, he did say:

"If they got [the modern lineup] together again and wanted me to play, of course I?d have to think about it.?

What other conclusion is there to draw?  Are we going to treat this like BBF and say there's no official announcement?  I'd say there's enough here to reasonably conclude Tommy is gone.

The only thing that's for sure is that GN'R isn't doing anything at the moment.
Tommy's stating the obvious.

When there's plans, if they include him, he'll consider it at that moment.

I don't know what plans the band has, and it sounds like Tommy doesn't either. Or he doesn't wanna talk about it.



He also said: "I didn?t quit the gig or walk away from it. We just all sort of left it in Vegas."
Sounds more like the band took a break and nobody knew when they'd be back again.



/jarmo

[HBK]

And Well... The Modern Line Up 2016 In My Simply Review Is:

Axl
Cris
Duff
Dizzy
Frank
Richard
New Guitar 1
New Guitar 2

 

[D-GenerationX]

The one thing I think will never happen is Axl and Slash working on new material together again.

Agreed.  Will not happen.

Personally, don't even care.  I would want to go see the shows and maybe get a bootleg or two out of it.

[chineseblues]

Now im convinced. GN'R is the most dangerous band in the world. I dont know what to belive about the future of GNR right now, other that it will be very interesting to see whats comming. And it seams that things are right around the corner now

If this pans out, its the most exciting thing to happen in the GNRverse in 20 years.

- Axl coming out of hibernation in 2001
- RIR III
- 2002 MTV Awards
- Axl re-emerging in 2006
- release of CD

All exciting at the time for their own reasons.  But all sharing one common denominator : its not the real band.

This would pass them all, standing still.

I hate to turn this discussion sideways but please stop with that crap already. It's so fking old at this point.


On topic this doesn't really mean Tommy is gone. I'm almost positive Tommy has said something similar about the band way back around 04-05. I'm almost positive he gave an interview way back then that had a similar line about "if they get back together".  

[HBK]

Jump to what conclusion?  That Tommy's out of the band?  I mean, he did say:

"If they got [the modern lineup] together again and wanted me to play, of course I?d have to think about it.?

What other conclusion is there to draw?  Are we going to treat this like BBF and say there's no official announcement?  I'd say there's enough here to reasonably conclude Tommy is gone.

The only thing that's for sure is that GN'R isn't doing anything at the moment.
Tommy's stating the obvious.

When there's plans, if they include him, he'll consider it at that moment.

I don't know what plans the band has, and it sounds like Tommy doesn't either. Or he doesn't wanna talk about it.



He also said: "I didn?t quit the gig or walk away from it. We just all sort of left it in Vegas."
Sounds more like the band took a break and nobody knew when they'd be back again.



/jarmo

I believe --> he doesn't wanna talk about it

 

[D-GenerationX]

Now im convinced. GN'R is the most dangerous band in the world. I dont know what to belive about the future of GNR right now, other that it will be very interesting to see whats comming. And it seams that things are right around the corner now

If this pans out, its the most exciting thing to happen in the GNRverse in 20 years.

- Axl coming out of hibernation in 2001
- RIR III
- 2002 MTV Awards
- Axl re-emerging in 2006
- release of CD

All exciting at the time for their own reasons.  But all sharing one common denominator : its not the real band.

This would pass them all, standing still.

I hate to turn this discussion sideways...

Then don't.  Only you can prevent forest fires, and only you can control what you type.

On topic this doesn't really mean Tommy is gone. I'm almost positive Tommy has said something similar about the band way back around 04-05. I'm almost positive he gave an interview way back then that had a similar line about "if they get back together".  

Maybe, but these comments do at least circumstantially fit in with some things we know.

- Ron bounced
- DJ bounced
- Tommy seems out of the loop
- Not a speck of news about any work being done on some supposed new album
- No buzz among the industry any new album is coming (in terms of studio time, mixing process, etc.)

[chineseblues]

Now im convinced. GN'R is the most dangerous band in the world. I dont know what to belive about the future of GNR right now, other that it will be very interesting to see whats comming. And it seams that things are right around the corner now

If this pans out, its the most exciting thing to happen in the GNRverse in 20 years.

- Axl coming out of hibernation in 2001
- RIR III
- 2002 MTV Awards
- Axl re-emerging in 2006
- release of CD

All exciting at the time for their own reasons.  But all sharing one common denominator : its not the real band.

This would pass them all, standing still.

I hate to turn this discussion sideways...

Then don't.  Only you can prevent forest fires, and only you can control what you type.

On topic this doesn't really mean Tommy is gone. I'm almost positive Tommy has said something similar about the band way back around 04-05. I'm almost positive he gave an interview way back then that had a similar line about "if they get back together".  

Maybe, but these comments do at least circumstantially fit in with some things we know.

- Ron bounced
- DJ bounced
- Tommy seems out of the loop
- Not a speck of news about any work being done on some supposed new album
- No buzz among the industry any new album is coming (in terms of studio time, mixing process, etc.)

Only you can prevent yourself from posting dumbass remarks and statements 

As for the rest of the drivel you posted, Richard said work was being done. So how is that not news?

[EmilyGNR]

Now im convinced. GN'R is the most dangerous band in the world. I dont know what to belive about the future of GNR right now, other that it will be very interesting to see whats comming. And it seams that things are right around the corner now

If this pans out, its the most exciting thing to happen in the GNRverse in 20 years.

- Axl coming out of hibernation in 2001
- RIR III
- 2002 MTV Awards
- Axl re-emerging in 2006
- release of CD

All exciting at the time for their own reasons.  But all sharing one common denominator : its not the real band.

This would pass them all, standing still.

I hate to turn this discussion sideways...

Then don't.  Only you can prevent forest fires, and only you can control what you type.

On topic this doesn't really mean Tommy is gone. I'm almost positive Tommy has said something similar about the band way back around 04-05. I'm almost positive he gave an interview way back then that had a similar line about "if they get back together".  

Maybe, but these comments do at least circumstantially fit in with some things we know.

- Ron bounced
- DJ bounced
- Tommy seems out of the loop
- Not a speck of news about any work being done on some supposed new album
- No buzz among the industry any new album is coming (in terms of studio time, mixing process, etc.)

Only you can prevent yourself from posting dumbass remarks and statements 

As for the rest of the drivel you posted, Richard said work was being done. So how is that not news?

A mind is a terrible thing to waste 

Richard also was very optimistic about 2016 in his recent interview