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Tommy Stinson article - September 2, 2015
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Only the GN'R parts, the rest of the article is about his new solo band (which includes Frank) and the Replacements:
Tommy Stinson: Replacements run was 'special' but it's time to move on
The Replacements and GNR bassist is ready to leave his old band (or bands?) behind for a new solo venture.
By Chris Riemenschneider Star Tribune
September 2, 2015 ? 11:41am
Since he?s more interested in talking about his new band coming to the Turf Club next Saturday, Tommy Stinson offered these short answers to the two most-heard questions about the old bands he is probably leaving behind:
1) Ask Axl.
2) Ask Paul?s T-shirts.
?At this point, they probably have their own [publicists],? the veteran bassist joked of his Replacements bandmate Paul Westerberg?s letter-encoded white T?s.
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Decoding Axl Rose is a whole other matter.
Now 48, Tommy has been playing bass with Rose in Guns N? Roses since 1998. However, even before rumors started flying a few weeks ago about the late-?80s lineup of GNR getting back together, he said his status in the group was up in the air. His last GNR gig was April 2014 in Las Vegas.
?I reach out once in a while to that crew of people ? a lot of whom are also my good friends ? but I really have no idea what?s going on,? he said, clarifying at least this much: ?I didn?t quit the gig or walk away from it. We just all sort of left it in Vegas.?
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A postscript, if needed, on his stint in Guns N? Roses: ?I?ll be honest with you: [Axl Rose] was always very good to me, and it was always a really good gig. It wasn?t necessarily the easiest gig, but it was always good. I have nothing but gratitude for it. If they got [the modern lineup] together again and wanted me to play, of course I?d have to think about it.?
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http://www.startribune.com/tommy-stinson-replacements-run-was-special-but-it-s-time-to-move-on/323903361/
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"status up in the air"
The plot thickens. But I think its encouraging.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm going to be interesting here next few months with all this speculation around GNR Camp
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Re: Tommy Stinson article - September 2, 2015
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He really seems to speaking about it in the past tense no?
Apparently he didn't get the same memo that Frank and richard got about big plans for 2016!
Every day I'm starting to believe a little bit more something is int he works.
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I've said right along...when Tommy says he's out, that's when this reunion stuff starts to gain traction.
While he might not have outright said it....and I won't put words in his mouth....there is certainly that implication. He certainly makes it sound like he's out, and would have to "consider" a return...not that he'd be jumping right back in.
I think that's a very, very, very interesting article....
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So what has Richard heard, that Tommy hasnt?
Why is Richard so optimistic about the status of the band in 2016, when Tommy doesnt have a clue
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Quote from: JAEBALL on September 02, 2015, 01:10:06 PM
He really seems to speaking about it in the past tense no?
Apparently he didn't get the same memo that Frank and richard got about big plans for 2016!
Every day I'm starting to believe a little bit more something is int he works.
Allow me to spitball, in a totally off the wall outrageous unsubstantiated way:
Izzy, likely, isn't touring. He's said it before..he hates it.
And Adler...well...I'm not sure everyone would be onboard with his reliability.
Would it make sense, then, for Richard and Frank to stick around? If that was really the plan?
Again, totally spit balling some pure fantastical what ifs.
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I really don't know what to think after reading this... I mean how can the longest tenured member of Guns N' Roses not named Axl or Dizzy know less than Richard and Frank (especially considering he is in a band with Frank). Which leads me to think two things, 1. Richard and Frank are talking out of their collective asses about the big plans OR 2. Tommy is not involved in the big plans and has been replaced by someone with similar qualifications who could fit right in on Bass (wonder who that could be).
He is basically saying the same thing Frank said that he reached out to the 'camp' about what's up... Frank got a text from Axl (supposedly) and Tommy was ignored and or given no information?
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Quote from: C0ma on September 02, 2015, 01:17:37 PM
I really don't know what to think after reading this... I mean how can the longest tenured member of Guns N' Roses not named Axl or Dizzy know less than Richard and Frank (especially considering he is in a band with Frank). Which leads me to think two things, 1. Richard and Frank are talking out of their collective asses about the big plans OR 2. Tommy is not involved in the big plans and has been replaced by someone with similar qualifications who could fit right in on Bass (wonder who that could be).
He is basically saying the same thing Frank said that he reached out to the 'camp' about what's up... Frank got a text from Axl (supposedly) and Tommy was ignored and or given no information?
Didnt Duff just recently post how he ran into Tommy recently and they hung out or something like that....
If that was the case, wouldnt one of the first things Tommy would ask is. What the hell is going on?? Are you back in the band or what dude
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Quote from: C0ma on September 02, 2015, 01:17:37 PM
I really don't know what to think after reading this... I mean how can the longest tenured member of Guns N' Roses not named Axl or Dizzy know less than Richard and Frank (especially considering he is in a band with Frank). Which leads me to think two things, 1. Richard and Frank are talking out of their collective asses about the big plans OR 2. Tommy is not involved in the big plans and has been replaced by someone with similar qualifications who could fit right in on Bass (wonder who that could be).
He is basically saying the same thing Frank said that he reached out to the 'camp' about what's up... Frank got a text from Axl (supposedly) and Tommy was ignored and or given no information?
One alternative theory is: Tommy is out and, while he knows more than he's letting on, he doesn't think, given his status, it's his place to comment. So he can, realistically and honestly, claim he doesn't know (because he doesn't know EXACTLY what's going on, per se). And move the interview along.
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lineup of Axl, Slash, Duff, Richard and Frank..... not crazy I guess.....
Coma is right... why such a disconnect between Tommy and Richard/Frank
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maybe there is plans for a combo lineup...
My boy Stinson is a damn good soldier though....really wish he could stay involved somehow.
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Quote from: pilferk on September 02, 2015, 01:15:15 PM
[Izzy, likely, isn't touring. He's said it before..he hates it.
And Adler...well...I'm not sure everyone would be onboard with his reliability.
Would it make sense, then, for Richard and Frank to stick around? If that was really the plan?
Totally agree.
I really feel like the lineup of Axl, Slash, Duff, Richard, Frank (Dizzy and Pittman) makes the most sense when talking reunion tour (if you are going to stay away from Matt)... Then I think Izzy would be involved in creative process along the lines of what Paul provided Axl during the early portion of his mid to late 90's renaissance.
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Quote from: sky dog on September 02, 2015, 01:23:18 PM
maybe there is plans for a combo lineup...
My boy Stinson is a damn good soldier though....really wish he could stay involved somehow.
Agree. I think Stinson brought a TON to the table.
But, if they were working with Izzy again in the studio (but not on tour)...I think Izzy does a lot of the "stuff" that Tommy does.
I'm hesitant to even post this, because, lets face it, we're dealing with a LOT of what if and fantasy, here. But, it's a nice fantasy to sort of work through, look at, and discuss, I guess.
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OF note, read what Tommy says about trying to record new Replacements material.....IF Axl/Duff/Slash do get back together, there are no guarantees for new music.
Assessing the Replacements recording sessions: ?It was one of those things:
We dipped our toe in the water, and it didn?t feel so good.
The water was a little too hot. I won?t say never, but the songs of mine that we recorded, I?ve redone. You know, if [Westerberg] called me up and said, ?Hey, you wanna try this again?? of course I would do it, if only to [mess] around a bit. Do we need to do that right now, though? I don?t think so.?
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What gets me is...really...we now have 3 realistic, logical, potential scenarios (assuming Tommy is "gone", which I still am not willing to say is 100% true..but the indications point that way):
Reunion (with Richard and Frank somehow involved??)
Total Rebuild (with Richard and Frank somehow involved??)
Total Disbandment (no pun intended, maybe with CDII as the swan song, and they never tour it?).
To be clear, the stuff INSIDE the parentheticals is just that...and questionable.
Maybe there are other scenarios that I'm not seeing, but THIS lineup..the 2002 (1998?) - 2014 lineup appears to be done, kaputski, finito. Right?
And, by the sounds of it, PLANNED to be that way, to some extent. Tommy sure made it sound like they sort of said their goodbyes, by and large, in Vegas.
This might be the most interesting article of the 3 "announcements" we've heard, recently. At least to me.
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Quote from: sky dog on September 02, 2015, 01:29:26 PM
OF note, read what Tommy says about trying to record new Replacements material.....IF Axl and Slash do get back together, there are no guarantees for new music.
Assessing the Replacements recording sessions: ?It was one of those things:
We dipped our toe in the water, and it didn?t feel so good.
The water was a little too hot. I won?t say never, but the songs of mine that we recorded, I?ve redone. You know, if [Westerberg] called me up and said, ?Hey, you wanna try this again?? of course I would do it, if only to [mess] around a bit. Do we need to do that right now, though? I don?t think so.?
Totally agree. It would be interesting, though...that's for sure.
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I almost feel like the Subject/topic heading jarmo used for this needs to be punched up.
Like "READ ME NOW"!! Or "THIS IS POTENTIALLY A BFD". I'm kidding..but only a bit....
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Quote from: pilferk on September 02, 2015, 01:35:32 PM
I almost feel like the Subject/topic heading jarmo used for this needs to be punched up.
Like "READ ME NOW"!! Or "THIS IS POTENTIALLY A BFD". I'm kidding..but only a bit....
Nah.
The band hasn't anything announced at the moment. Of course some will jump to conclusions based on what Tommy said. But things can change quickly.
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Quote from: JAEBALL on September 02, 2015, 01:21:47 PM
lineup of Axl, Slash, Duff, Richard and Frank..... not crazy I guess.....
Coma is right... why such a disconnect between Tommy and Richard/Frank
What about CDII? Are Slash and Duff going to rewrite the songs and then record them again? Is CDII gonna be buried? Not my case at all but there are fans out there who care a lot more about CD II than about a reunion. And I don?t like the idea of Slash and Duff working on CDII. I?d rather have a new album with brand new songs written by them with Izzy collaboration in a song or two
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