What's your viewpoint on a reunion?

[Christos AG]

Christos .. Best video of Duff playing YCBM in 2010.. Thanks for that !

Thanks mate, glad I was there to capture the moment... Glad you enjoyed it...

[Annie]

What about his comment about going to "The Toppist Mountain?" 

Making fun of a stroke victim.  Classy.

He brought that stroke upon himself with excessive drug abuse.  I still think he should have gone to jail for what he did to Erin Everly .

Facepalm

Why are you giving me a facepalm? You think it's OK to intentionally shoot up somebody with a speedball? That put them in an ICU? If I had been Erin's nurse, I would have strongly ADVOCATED that she and her entire family press charges against him.  Axl is a good guy and probably thought he was doing the right thing by smoothing things over. Too bad it only bit him in the ass since Adler has NEVER sincerely taken responsibility for ANY of the choices that HE has made.

[FunkyMonkey]

Slash, one of the most talented, incendiary guitarists in the history of rock 'n' roll, is coming to Salt Lake City ? and that's enough.

"Re: Slash," came the corresponding pre-emptive directive from his PR staff, "he is available for email interviews at this time. He's available to answer questions about this tour, the new CD/DVD and the most recent album. If that is acceptable to you, please send along your questions and we can proceed."

The byproduct of Axl fatigue and GN'R overload in every interview after that infamous Swedish interview.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3009521-155/concert-preview-slash-still-setting-rock

[EmilyGNR]

Slash, one of the most talented, incendiary guitarists in the history of rock 'n' roll, is coming to Salt Lake City ? and that's enough.

"Re: Slash," came the corresponding pre-emptive directive from his PR staff, "he is available for email interviews at this time. He's available to answer questions about this tour, the new CD/DVD and the most recent album. If that is acceptable to you, please send along your questions and we can proceed."

The byproduct of Axl fatigue and GN'R overload in every interview after that infamous Swedish interview.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3009521-155/concert-preview-slash-still-setting-rock

I can't say I blame him for avoiding the subject entirely.

[Annie]

Slash, one of the most talented, incendiary guitarists in the history of rock 'n' roll, is coming to Salt Lake City ? and that's enough.

"Re: Slash," came the corresponding pre-emptive directive from his PR staff, "he is available for email interviews at this time. He's available to answer questions about this tour, the new CD/DVD and the most recent album. If that is acceptable to you, please send along your questions and we can proceed."

The byproduct of Axl fatigue and GN'R overload in every interview after that infamous Swedish interview.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/3009521-155/concert-preview-slash-still-setting-rock

I can't say I blame him for avoiding the subject entirely.

I agree.   Too much of a hassle.

[EmilyGNR]

 Gilby on Axl- He is incredibly talented. He is a talented singer, writer and a performer. Usually artists these days don?t have all three. They can either sing well and are too shy to perform or they are only good writers,? said Clarke, who reunited with the band with bassist Duff McKagan, drummers Steven Adler and Matt Sorum, and guitarist Slash for the ?Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction? ceremony in 2012
http://www.asianage.com/music/axl-rose-incredibly-talented-379

[DeN]

What about his comment about going to "The Toppist Mountain?" 

Making fun of a stroke victim.  Classy.

He brought that stroke upon himself with excessive drug abuse.  I still think he should have gone to jail for what he did to Erin Everly .

Facepalm

Why are you giving me a facepalm? You think it's OK to intentionally shoot up somebody with a speedball? That put them in an ICU? If I had been Erin's nurse, I would have strongly ADVOCATED that she and her entire family press charges against him.  Axl is a good guy and probably thought he was doing the right thing by smoothing things over. Too bad it only bit him in the ass since Adler has NEVER sincerely taken responsibility for ANY of the choices that HE has made.

OR maybe that was not the real story?

even if it was the case, Steven was invited to hang out at GUNS aftershow in Vegas in 2006.

[The Wight Gunner]

OR maybe that was not the real story?

even if it was the case, Steven was invited to hang out at GUNS aftershow in Vegas in 2006.

And despite living it up with the band, he still called 'em scabs... Classy that 

[Ginger King]

What about his comment about going to "The Toppist Mountain?" 

Making fun of a stroke victim.  Classy.

I still think he should have gone to jail for what he did to Erin Everly .

You could say that about Axl too, right?  None of these guys were choir boys back in the day.  Steven did/does have the worst drug problem of all of them, but don't pretend he was the odd ball that had a drug issue or a violent side. 

[D-GenerationX]

No one held a gun to Everly's head.  Let's be real here.

A drug addict doesn't need an impassioned plea to take drugs.

[JAEBALL]

This is why it's best to keep the fandom strictly to the music and the product.

You cant kill somebody for their mistakes and shortcomings in life and completely gloss over another's.

[Annie]

No one held a gun to Everly's head.  Let's be real here.

A drug addict doesn't need an impassioned plea to take drugs.

Shooting somebody up with a speedball is damn close to shooting them with a gun.  Unless you have cared for a critically ill patient who has overdosed on drugs you have no idea what a huge physical and psychological toll it takes on the patient, the family and the health care providers.   All I'm saying is that if I had been  her nurse. I would have called the big guns. Social work, chaplains and the ICU medical director to convince her family to press charges against him. And Erin was hardly a drug addict. Also I had somebody slip something into my drink in Key West and I almost blacked out. Fortunately I have paradoxical reactions to sedatives and I became extremely agitated for a couple of days.  So I have very strong feelings about people giving drugs to other people that can have an ill effect
I would have had the balls to even tell Axl Rose that there were no excuses for what Steven did to his wife and that son of a bitch should be held accountable for his actions. The most important part of being a great critical care nurse is assessing why your patient is in the ICU. And doing everything in your power to keep them safe so that they can make a full recovery. 

[FunkyMonkey]

This is why it's best to keep the fandom strictly to the music and the product.

You cant kill somebody for their mistakes and shortcomings in life and completely gloss over another's.

Yeah, when there is enough to go around.

[Annie]

This is why it's best to keep the fandom strictly to the music and the product.

You cant kill somebody for their mistakes and shortcomings in life and completely gloss over another's.

Yeah, when there is enough to go around.

There are some really good articles out there where Axl talks about the incident. Unfortunately I suck at posting links.

[JAEBALL]

This is why it's best to keep the fandom strictly to the music and the product.

You cant kill somebody for their mistakes and shortcomings in life and completely gloss over another's.

Yeah, when there is enough to go around.

There are some really good articles out there where Axl talks about the incident. Unfortunately I suck at posting links.

There are also a lot articles about Axl doing things that could have very easily landed him in prison for a very long time, regarding his behavior with Erin. There are also articles about Slash and Duff behaving very badly as well when they were still using, trashing hotel rooms, cheating on their wives, etc etc. Same for Izzy... whipping it out on an airplane because he felt like it and selling heroin for a living for god sakes!

So while Steven's behavior encouraging Erin Everly to participate in that kind of drug use is terrible, they all did some very bad things in their day.

Try to keep things in perspective... this was a group of guys from the street, who by all accounts are all in good places now, but ALL had issues at some point. They were a great rock n roll band... were they all great people? I don't know. I am not judging them, I just like the music.

Sweet Child...I respect that you are a nurse, and what happened was very unfortunate, just realize all the guys did some shitty things.

[EmilyGNR]

This is why it's best to keep the fandom strictly to the music and the product.

You cant kill somebody for their mistakes and shortcomings in life and completely gloss over another's.

Yeah, when there is enough to go around.

There are some really good articles out there where Axl talks about the incident. Unfortunately I suck at posting links.

There are also a lot articles about Axl doing things that could have very easily landed him in prison for a very long time, regarding his behavior with Erin. There are also articles about Slash and Duff behaving very badly as well when they were still using, trashing hotel rooms, cheating on their wives, etc etc. Same for Izzy... whipping it out on an airplane because he felt like it and selling heroin for a living for god sakes!

So while Steven's behavior encouraging Erin Everly to participate in that kind of drug use is terrible, they all did some very bad things in their day.

Try to keep things in perspective... this was a group of guys from the street, who by all accounts are all in good places now, but ALL had issues at some point. They were a great rock n roll band... were they all great people? I don't know. I am not judging them, I just like the music.

Sweet Child...I respect that you are a nurse, and what happened was very unfortunate, just realize all the guys did some shitty things.

Axl, unlike Steven was never convicted of the behavior he was accused of and many "fans" like to bring up endlessly.

Steven was convicted of beating up, not one- but two women, Slash was charged with abuse of Perla at one point.

I think the accusations and actual legalities get confused and oft repeated by some that are obviously judging even while claiming not to do so.   

[Annie]

Never said any of them were choir boys.   There are 2 things in this world that I consider unforgivable.   Child pornography.  And a self destructive drug addict inflicting his selfish self destructive behavior on others.  You have a draw a line somewhere.  Steven more than crossed that line when he shot Erin up with that speedball.

[Bridge]

There are also a lot articles about Axl doing things that could have very easily landed him in prison for a very long time, regarding his behavior with Erin.

Yeah, even if Steven were guilty of shooting Erin up (which he denies), I always thought it was ridiculously sanctimonious for Axl to preach so hard back then about what Steven allegedly did to Erin.  Steven was never taken to court over what he supposedly did to Erin.... but Axl sure was.  Erin sued Axl Rose, and just find her deposition if you wanna read the dirt.  You can say all you want that Steven could be lying and avoiding responsibility, but Axl has never publicly confessed or apologized to Erin for anything she directly claims he did to her.

I'm not even going to begin posting links or quotes from Erin's deposition against Axl, because it would get deleted from this board in a heartbeat.  But the accusations Erin made against Axl were pretty horrific.  Search and judge for yourself.

So yeah, overall, I agree with what was said above.  Stick to the music, and quit bringing up these sketchy behind the scenes events.

[JAEBALL]

This is why it's best to keep the fandom strictly to the music and the product.

You cant kill somebody for their mistakes and shortcomings in life and completely gloss over another's.

Yeah, when there is enough to go around.

There are some really good articles out there where Axl talks about the incident. Unfortunately I suck at posting links.

There are also a lot articles about Axl doing things that could have very easily landed him in prison for a very long time, regarding his behavior with Erin. There are also articles about Slash and Duff behaving very badly as well when they were still using, trashing hotel rooms, cheating on their wives, etc etc. Same for Izzy... whipping it out on an airplane because he felt like it and selling heroin for a living for god sakes!

So while Steven's behavior encouraging Erin Everly to participate in that kind of drug use is terrible, they all did some very bad things in their day.

Try to keep things in perspective... this was a group of guys from the street, who by all accounts are all in good places now, but ALL had issues at some point. They were a great rock n roll band... were they all great people? I don't know. I am not judging them, I just like the music.

Sweet Child...I respect that you are a nurse, and what happened was very unfortunate, just realize all the guys did some shitty things.

Axl, unlike Steven was never convicted of the behavior he was accused of and many "fans" like to bring up endlessly.

Steven was convicted of beating up, not one- but two women, Slash was charged with abuse of Perla at one point.

I think the accusations and actual legalities get confused and oft repeated by some.

I'm not talking about legalities. If Axl Rose didn't have the cash to pay Erin Everly to settle... do you still think he wouldn't have been charged and convicted?

This is what I'm talking about... I didn't want to go down this road... but of course Axl Rose could never have done wrong to you.

I think its despicable that any of these guys ever raised a hand to a woman... and none of them get a pass because I "like" them as an entertainer.

If I'm not a "fan" because I don't give a rock singer a pass for beating up a woman and throwing furniture at her head and god knows what else... then you are right ...

If Axl Rose truly never did any of those things... Then I apologize... but i also don't think he was shelling out five hundred thousand dollars if he didn;t. Call me cynical.

Axl... Steven... Slash... Joe Schmo... if they ever hit a woman... then they are scum of the earth.

[JAEBALL]

There are also a lot articles about Axl doing things that could have very easily landed him in prison for a very long time, regarding his behavior with Erin.

Yeah, even if Steven were guilty of shooting Erin up (which he denies), I always thought it was ridiculously sanctimonious for Axl to preach so hard back then about what Steven allegedly did to Erin.  Steven was never taken to court over what he supposedly did to Erin.... but Axl sure was.  Erin sued Axl Rose, and just find her deposition if you wanna read the dirt.  You can say all you want that Steven could be lying and avoiding responsibility, but Axl has never publicly confessed or apologized to Erin for anything she directly claims he did to her.

I'm not even going to begin posting links or quotes from Erin's deposition against Axl, because it would get deleted from this board in a heartbeat.  But the accusations Erin made against Axl were pretty horrific.  Search and judge for yourself.

So yeah, overall, I agree with what was said above.  Stick to the music, and quit bringing up these sketchy behind the scenes events.

Agreed. I really didn't want to bring up shit from 30 years ago. I was just trying to express that they all have not so clean cut pasts.