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Quote from: sandman on April 12, 2018, 09:07:58 AM
Quote from: tim_m on April 12, 2018, 02:15:40 AM
Also, how many times did Trump swear he'd never let a foreign powe sr know an attack was coming then go and do exactly that with twitter yesterday?
serious question....are you more disgusted with Trump's tweet, or with the possibility we could be entering a war in Syria?
what would you like to see the U.S. do in Syria? Do you believe the intelligence reports?
Just pointing out he again did something he said he wouldn't and when he tried to clarify he sounded even dumber. Both suck. I don't know but screaming on twitter that smart bombs are coming doesn't seem like the best idea.
Yeah this asshole has done this before, so it isn't a stretch to think he's done it again and there should be a response.
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Quote from: pilferk on April 12, 2018, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: sandman on April 12, 2018, 09:01:42 AM
IF campaign finance laws were broken, the penalty will be a slap on the wrist.
Yes. I've said this before, too. Potentially many, many slaps, but just slaps. And mostly against Cohen (and potentially enough slaps to financially ruin him), though I suppose the Trump campaign could see some fines and potential limitations imposed on "soft money" donations for 2020.
But, here's the thing: You would typically refer that type of investigation (if it were only that) directly to the FEC, not the Southern District of New York. So you would think they have something a bit more than that, based on that referral.
IF extortion, coercion, bribery, money laundering, conspiracy, fraud, or OTHER potential crimes were committed by Cohen (in his role as "fixer", if, indeed, he held that role as alleged)...it will be a bit more. But I would expect the focus to be on Cohen, NOT Trump. I suspect that's largely why Rosenstein told Mueller to pass the information off to jurisdictional law enforcement. But we'll see when the investigation wraps up....and we'll see what charges they bring, if any.
Who knows but the warrants name Trump and they seem particularly interested in the Access Hollywood tape. The question is why? All i can think of is they're looking for evidence that he tried to prevent it from coming out in ways that violate laws.
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Now Trump wants an audit of the postal service cause he thinks Amazon is to blame for their financial troubles?
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So Trump waited a whole day after that incoherent clarification to attack Syria. I bet they were REALLY surprised.
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April 13, 2018, 11:26:51 PM »
Today Muelller via the NYT confirmed Cohen was in Prague talking to the Russians in 2016 just as the dossier says. So much for that being fake news. Also, Cohen is definitely under criminal investigation.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-broidy/trump-lawyer-arranged-1-6-million-payoff-to-playboy-playmate-for-republican-fundraiser-source-idUSKBN1HK2LB
More trouble for Cohen.
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Pick one:
A) Trump is a Russian puppet.
B) Trump is sending us to war against Russia.
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Given Mueller now has proof that the dossier appears to be true, obviously A.
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Quote from: Senator Blutarsky on April 14, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Pick one:
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B) Trump is sending us to war against Russia.
C) You:
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Quote from: Senator Blutarsky on April 14, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Pick one:
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B) Trump is sending us to war against Russia.
C) Both
And yes, it could be both (or neither).
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So much for the sanctions, Trump changed his mind tonight. Can't imagine why.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-16/trump-loses-initial-bid-to-review-cohen-records-seized-by-fbi
Like this was ever gonna fly. Oh let us look through the evidence to remove anything incriminating.
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Quote from: tim_m on April 17, 2018, 12:46:46 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-16/trump-loses-initial-bid-to-review-cohen-records-seized-by-fbi
Like this was ever gonna fly. Oh let us look through the evidence to remove anything incriminating.
It didn't. They lost.
The judge is entertaining (has not decided, but is thinking about) appointing a special master (basically in a mediator capacity) to "ride herd" in the review process. The defense (who would review the material at the same time the prosecution is....that's normal discovery) could bring any material they object to to the master, who would consult the prosecution. If the prosecution disagrees, the master gets to decide one way or the other (or, if necessary, just refer any REALLY "iffy" material back to the judge for a final ruling").
But that doesn't prevent the prosecution from reviewing the material. It would only, possibly, potentially (though not likely) prevent them from using some pieces of the material in their litigation. They'll get to see it all. The fact is that the judge, by going through this process, considers most of the material fair game....and likely so would that special master.
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Re: Donald Trump & 2016 Election
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April 18, 2018, 02:34:48 AM »
Quote from: pilferk on April 17, 2018, 07:10:12 AM
Quote from: tim_m on April 17, 2018, 12:46:46 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-16/trump-loses-initial-bid-to-review-cohen-records-seized-by-fbi
Like this was ever gonna fly. Oh let us look through the evidence to remove anything incriminating.
It didn't. They lost.
The judge is entertaining (has not decided, but is thinking about) appointing a special master (basically in a mediator capacity) to "ride herd" in the review process. The defense (who would review the material at the same time the prosecution is....that's normal discovery) could bring any material they object to to the master, who would consult the prosecution. If the prosecution disagrees, the master gets to decide one way or the other (or, if necessary, just refer any REALLY "iffy" material back to the judge for a final ruling").
But that doesn't prevent the prosecution from reviewing the material. It would only, possibly, potentially (though not likely) prevent them from using some pieces of the material in their litigation. They'll get to see it all. The fact is that the judge, by going through this process, considers most of the material fair game....and likely so would that special master.
It really makes it seem like there is something they want to hide.
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So it appears social media is having a little fun with the description of the guy who apparently threatened Daniels noticing he resembles Tom Brady. Not that i think he is the one who did it but amusing.
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I thought it was Ryan Seacrest after a 3 day bender.
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on April 15, 2018, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: Senator Blutarsky on April 14, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Pick one:
A) Trump is a Russian puppet.
B) Trump is sending us to war against Russia.
C) You:
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Quote from: Senator Blutarsky on April 18, 2018, 07:26:49 AM
I thought it was Ryan Seacrest after a 3 day bender.
LOL i've also seen it compared to Hannity.
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Quote from: tim_m on April 18, 2018, 02:40:18 AM
So it appears social media is having a little fun with the description of the guy who apparently threatened Daniels noticing he resembles Tom Brady. Not that i think he is the one who did it but amusing.
Brady needed a fixer and traded a little muscle for Cohen's services as bag man.
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Now we seem to have proof that Trump lied to Comey about how long he was in Russia during 2013 for the Miss Universe pageant. More proof the dossier is real.
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