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Quote from: AtariLegend on November 20, 2016, 03:14:50 AM
Quote from: Bridge on November 19, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
Sheesh, Axl's getting political.
http://radio.com/2016/11/18/axl-rose-slams-jeff-sessions/
Axl's right.
He is.
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Quote from: westcoast_junkie on November 20, 2016, 08:50:10 AM
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"Hamilton Cast harassed Pence." Do u ever stop whining?An apology?Seriously?!U won,this is the job,get on with it or get out of the kitchen.
lol the ones who are still whining are the democrats & their voters. Axl is the personification of "rosik": never said anything about politics but now just wonder why
U should judge after they do something
Obama was a true catastrophe for italy in lybian and russian affairs, I'm glad democrats lost the elections, they deserved it
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Quote from: rebelhipi on November 20, 2016, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: AtariLegend on November 20, 2016, 03:14:50 AM
Quote from: Bridge on November 19, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
Sheesh, Axl's getting political.
http://radio.com/2016/11/18/axl-rose-slams-jeff-sessions/
Axl's right.
He is.
Im glad he's using Twitter to speak his mind in important matters.
Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 10:09:06 AM
lol the ones who are still whining are the democrats & their voters. Axl is the personification of "rosik": never said anything about politics but now just wonder why
So you're forbidden for life to have a say in anything about politics because you didn't before?
Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 10:09:06 AM
U should judge after they do something
Obama was a true catastrophe for italy in lybian and russian affairs, I'm glad democrats lost the elections, they deserved it
Not an American, but I think it's fair to say that the several stepbacks with Trump's behavior regarding muslism, black people, women, guns, gays and immigrants outweights any democrat mistep on external affairs.
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Quote from: westcoast_junkie on November 20, 2016, 08:50:10 AM
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Axl Rose @axlrose
"Hamilton Cast harassed Pence." Do u ever stop whining?An apology?Seriously?!U won,this is the job,get on with it or get out of the kitchen.
IMO, blindsiding someone publicly like that without inviting them onstage to give a response has nothing to do with "the job" the President/Vice President (or anyone for that matter) is elected to do. It showcased the behavior, narrow-mindedness and bullying that the cast was supposedly 'protesting' against.
Dialogue on any issue needs to and should always be open and a two-way street.
"get on with it or get out of the kitchen"
?? Seriously, who talks like that??
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Re: Donald Trump & 2016 Election
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Quote from: Voodoochild on November 20, 2016, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: rebelhipi on November 20, 2016, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: AtariLegend on November 20, 2016, 03:14:50 AM
Quote from: Bridge on November 19, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
Sheesh, Axl's getting political.
http://radio.com/2016/11/18/axl-rose-slams-jeff-sessions/
Axl's right.
He is.
Im glad he's using Twitter to speak his mind in important matters.
Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 10:09:06 AM
lol the ones who are still whining are the democrats & their voters. Axl is the personification of "rosik": never said anything about politics but now just wonder why
So you're forbidden for life to have a say in anything about politics because you didn't before?
Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 10:09:06 AM
U should judge after they do something
Obama was a true catastrophe for italy in lybian and russian affairs, I'm glad democrats lost the elections, they deserved it
Not an American, but I think it's fair to say that the several stepbacks with Trump's behavior regarding muslism, black people, women, guns, gays and immigrants outweights any democrat mistep on external affairs.
Fact: BOMBS hurt more than words. I'd rather have a president who says nigga all the time than have a black president who bombs the entire world Killing people of all colors, ages, religions, sexes etc. like Obama did.
I'm not with trump but I just won't judge him before the time. Axl has the right to say whatever he wants but sorry, he's one of the last public people in the world who can have any relevance in talking about politics, having him being so controversial for a long time, lacking any good attitude towards his own job and his fans ... He just can't weigh in on how people should act while he did exactly whatever he wanted to do, going against common sense, law and normal acting cause he thought he was the right thing to do.
The main problem with Axl is that he's so vulnerable that he could look more like "blowjob" madonna or the other "crying hammer licker" than bruce Springsteen, He has no chips on the table to play the politics card, really.
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Quote from: GypsySoul on November 20, 2016, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: westcoast_junkie on November 20, 2016, 08:50:10 AM
Twitter:
Axl Rose @axlrose
"Hamilton Cast harassed Pence." Do u ever stop whining?An apology?Seriously?!U won,this is the job,get on with it or get out of the kitchen.
IMO, blindsiding someone publicly like that without inviting them onstage to give a response has nothing to do with "the job" the President/Vice President (or anyone for that matter) is elected to do. It showcased the behavior, narrow-mindedness and bullying that the cast was supposedly 'protesting' against.
Dialogue on any issue needs to and should always be open and a two-way street.
"get on with it or get out of the kitchen"
?? Seriously, who talks like that??
I think if you are a vice president or even the president. Being the subject of some mockery is 100% part of the job. In a democratic country atleast . (couch, russia, couch)
And to be fair he deserved it, that dude is out of his mind.
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Re: Donald Trump & 2016 Election
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Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: Voodoochild on November 20, 2016, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: rebelhipi on November 20, 2016, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: AtariLegend on November 20, 2016, 03:14:50 AM
Quote from: Bridge on November 19, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
Sheesh, Axl's getting political.
http://radio.com/2016/11/18/axl-rose-slams-jeff-sessions/
Axl's right.
He is.
Im glad he's using Twitter to speak his mind in important matters.
Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 10:09:06 AM
lol the ones who are still whining are the democrats & their voters. Axl is the personification of "rosik": never said anything about politics but now just wonder why
So you're forbidden for life to have a say in anything about politics because you didn't before?
Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 10:09:06 AM
U should judge after they do something
Obama was a true catastrophe for italy in lybian and russian affairs, I'm glad democrats lost the elections, they deserved it
Not an American, but I think it's fair to say that the several stepbacks with Trump's behavior regarding muslism, black people, women, guns, gays and immigrants outweights any democrat mistep on external affairs.
Fact: BOMBS hurt more than words. I'd rather have a president who says nigga all the time than have a black president who bombs the entire world Killing people of all colors, ages, religions, sexes etc. like Obama did.
I'm not with trump but I just won't judge him before the time. Axl has the right to say whatever he wants but sorry, he's one of the last public people in the world who can have any relevance in talking about politics, having him being so controversial for a long time, lacking any good attitude towards his own job and his fans ... He just can't weigh in on how people should act while he did exactly whatever he wanted to do, going against common sense, law and normal acting cause he thought he was the right thing to do.
The main problem with Axl is that he's so vulnerable that he could look more like "blowjob" madonna or the other "crying hammer licker" than bruce Springsteen, He has no chips on the table to play the politics card, really.
Nah I disagree. I don't think he lacks a good attitude to his fans- and I think, like every citizen of the world, he should be totally allowed to express his political views. If you don't care for them, the simple solution is not to read or consider them. That's your right. Personally I respect him for saying what he thinks.
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Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 12:27:58 PM
Axl has the right to say whatever he wants but sorry, he's one of the last public people in the world who can have any relevance in talking about politics, having him being so controversial for a long time, lacking any good attitude towards his own job and his fans ... He just can't weigh in on how people should act while he did exactly whatever he wanted to do, going against common sense, law and normal acting cause he thought he was the right thing to do.
The main problem with Axl is that he's so vulnerable that he could look more like "blowjob" madonna or the other "crying hammer licker" than bruce Springsteen, He has no chips on the table to play the politics card, really.
IMO, you are correct in saying Axl has the right to say whatever he wants (whether he voted or not).
I do however disagree that "he has no chips on the table to play the politics cards"
His (or anyone's) right to say whatever he wants gives him all the 'chips' needed.
That being said, I am a little surprised at the tweet in regards to Senator Sessions given the fact of Axl defending himself over the years on the misconception people have of him due to songs like OIAM or his alleged homophobic ideology. Taking statements made decades ago and out of context is usually not a good compass of the current truth.
As far as what Axl's view on Senator Sessions' immigration policies may or may not be, all I know is that the GNR organization (including Axl) is and has always been very aware and respectful of all the working visas and legalities of traveling/working all over the world (including the USA) concerning the band and entire crew/camp. (We've all seen the respect Axl has always shown to the various nation's flags thrown on stage to him during shows.)
And most of us are aware of the fact that recently Beta became a naturalized USA citizen so no worries on Axl's part of President Trump trying to deport TB.
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Quote from: GypsySoul on November 20, 2016, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: westcoast_junkie on November 20, 2016, 08:50:10 AM
Twitter:
Axl Rose @axlrose
"Hamilton Cast harassed Pence." Do u ever stop whining?An apology?Seriously?!U won,this is the job,get on with it or get out of the kitchen.
IMO, blindsiding someone publicly like that without inviting them onstage to give a response has nothing to do with "the job" the President/Vice President (or anyone for that matter) is elected to do. It showcased the behavior, narrow-mindedness and bullying that the cast was supposedly 'protesting' against.
Dialogue on any issue needs to and should always be open and a two-way street.
"get on with it or get out of the kitchen"
?? Seriously, who talks like that??
The statement given from the stage was not bullying in any way, shape or form. It was an earnest, respectful plea for inclusion. Pence himself said this morning on "Face the Nation" that he was not offended by the comments.
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Quote from: Ali on November 20, 2016, 02:24:39 PM
The statement given from the stage was not bullying in any way, shape or form. It was an earnest, respectful plea for inclusion. Pence himself said this morning on "Face the Nation" that he was not offended by the comments.
Ali
Not inviting Vice President Elect Pence onstage to respond is not an earnest respectful plea for inclusion IMO.
I'm not questioning the comments themselves. I agree with what was said.
Governor Pence should have been given the opportunity AT THAT MOMENT to give a response.
The manner and setting with which he was confronted and the lack of opportunity to respond is the very definition of bullying.
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Quote from: GypsySoul on November 20, 2016, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: Ali on November 20, 2016, 02:24:39 PM
The statement given from the stage was not bullying in any way, shape or form. It was an earnest, respectful plea for inclusion. Pence himself said this morning on "Face the Nation" that he was not offended by the comments.
Ali
Not inviting Vice President Elect Pence onstage to respond is not an earnest respectful plea for inclusion IMO.
I'm not questioning the comments themselves. I agree with what was said.
Governor Pence should have been given the opportunity AT THAT MOMENT to give a response.
The manner and setting with which he was confronted and the lack of opportunity to respond is the very definition of bullying.
No, it was not bullying in any way, shape or form. Pence chose to walk out as the comments were being made. That's on him.
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Quote from: GypsySoul on November 20, 2016, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: Ali on November 20, 2016, 02:24:39 PM
The statement given from the stage was not bullying in any way, shape or form. It was an earnest, respectful plea for inclusion. Pence himself said this morning on "Face the Nation" that he was not offended by the comments.
Ali
Not inviting Vice President Elect Pence onstage to respond is not an earnest respectful plea for inclusion IMO.
I'm not questioning the comments themselves. I agree with what was said.
Governor Pence should have been given the opportunity AT THAT MOMENT to give a response.
The manner and setting with which he was confronted and the lack of opportunity to respond is the very definition of bullying.
No, it was not bullying in any way, shape or form. Pence chose to walk out as the comments were being made. That's on him.
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I've walked out of rooms in the past though when I've been bullied, rather than play the game the bullies wanted me to. Just saying!
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Quote from: Ali on November 20, 2016, 03:17:35 PM
Pence chose to walk out as the comments were being made. That's on him.
I'm beginning to understand his reasoning.
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Quote from: allwaystired on November 20, 2016, 03:43:58 PM
I've walked out of rooms in the past though when I've been bullied, rather than play the game the bullies wanted me to. Just saying!
That is a very smart response to the situation that I hadn't considered.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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Quote from: damnthehaters on November 19, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
Quote from: Bridge on November 19, 2016, 02:25:56 PM
Sheesh, Axl's getting political.
http://radio.com/2016/11/18/axl-rose-slams-jeff-sessions/
Funny considering Sessions helped desegregate schools in Alabama and also fought for death penalty for a KKK member. But yet, there's an alleged report of him coming across as racist back in 1986 that some people want to run with. I would think Axl of all people would know better than to take something in the media as fact....especially when it comes from a liberal calling a conservative racist. That's a new one
Fuck yeah axl! Fuck sessions! Funny, I was going edit my sig to include sessions this morning. To come find this out was awesome, it totally made my day.
Just try and touch our legal cannabis that we voted for sessions... watch what happens.
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Fact: BOMBS hurt more than words. I'd rather have a president who says nigga all the time than have a black president who bombs the entire world Killing people of all colors, ages, religions, sexes etc. like Obama did.
I'm not with trump but I just won't judge him before the time. Axl has the right to say whatever he wants but sorry, he's one of the last public people in the world who can have any relevance in talking about politics, having him being so controversial for a long time, lacking any good attitude towards his own job and his fans ... He just can't weigh in on how people should act while he did exactly whatever he wanted to do, going against common sense, law and normal acting cause he thought he was the right thing to do.
The main problem with Axl is that he's so vulnerable that he could look more like "blowjob" madonna or the other "crying hammer licker" than bruce Springsteen, He has no chips on the table to play the politics card, really.
I think we're getting too much off-topic here, but well.. I trully believe Trump will be much worse in this regard and him being an asshole does not make him a good president in foreign affairs. And I'm assuming you're not black otherwise you wouldnt say anything any close to that.
About Axl.. He's entitled to say whatever he wants, like you said yourself. But you can't just weight his job or the way he treats his fans (really, where's the real problem here?) with his entitlement to talk about polictics, really. He's just an artist speaking his mind, you either agree or not. If you don't think it was relevant, fine.
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Quote from: Voodoochild on November 20, 2016, 06:40:42 PM
Quote from: ITARocker on November 20, 2016, 12:27:58 PM
Fact: BOMBS hurt more than words. I'd rather have a president who says nigga all the time than have a black president who bombs the entire world Killing people of all colors, ages, religions, sexes etc. like Obama did.
I'm not with trump but I just won't judge him before the time. Axl has the right to say whatever he wants but sorry, he's one of the last public people in the world who can have any relevance in talking about politics, having him being so controversial for a long time, lacking any good attitude towards his own job and his fans ... He just can't weigh in on how people should act while he did exactly whatever he wanted to do, going against common sense, law and normal acting cause he thought he was the right thing to do.
The main problem with Axl is that he's so vulnerable that he could look more like "blowjob" madonna or the other "crying hammer licker" than bruce Springsteen, He has no chips on the table to play the politics card, really.
I think we're getting too much off-topic here, but well.. I trully believe Trump will be much worse in this regard and him being an asshole does not make him a good president in foreign affairs. And I'm assuming you're not black otherwise you wouldnt say anything any close to that.
About Axl.. He's entitled to say whatever he wants, like you said yourself. But you can't just weight his job or the way he treats his fans (really, where's the real problem here?) with his entitlement to talk about polictics, really. He's just an artist speaking his mind, you either agree or not. If you don't think it was relevant, fine.
Very off topic.
Bombing the middle east started way before Obama got in to the white house. Im not saying he was perfect regarding this issue, but i cant blame it all to the democrats either.
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"well, I think Obama bombed too much middle eastern countries, so that's why I will vote for a guy who could use nuclear weapons"
Trump supporters logic
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"well, I think Obama bombed too much middle eastern countries, so that's why I will vote for a guy who could use nuclear weapons"
Trump supporters logic
Every "guy" can use nuclear weapons once elected. If u don't want nuclear weapon being used, destroy them.
Not naive people logic or common sense.
It's funny how media-driven people actually think they have a true and realistic opinion about trump even before he does something, complaining about his big mouth while they factually insult his voters like they are retarded or something like that
Trump maybe will be the worst president ever, but let him put his butts in that fuckin president chair
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Quote from: DeN on November 20, 2016, 08:12:03 PM
"well, I think Obama bombed too much middle eastern countries, so that's why I will vote for a guy who could use nuclear weapons"
Trump supporters logic
Every "guy" can use nuclear weapons once elected. If u don't want nuclear weapon being used, destroy them.
Not naive people logic or common sense.
It's funny how media-driven people actually think they have a true and realistic opinion about trump even before he does something, complaining about his big mouth while they factually insult his voters like they are retarded or something like that
Trump maybe will be the worst president ever, but let him put his butts in that fuckin president chair
His actions have been plenty for me to be disgusted. As of 11.21.2016.
I hope he will surprise me and not act on his promises.
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