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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2015, 06:07:19 PM »


We know Axl had/has been doing...something...in the studio with Chris.  We know that he has at least two more albums worth of material left over from the Chinese sessions. We also know those tracks contain OTHER guitarists, and were largely, if not, completely finished.  Could it be that DJ caught wind that the next album WOULD NOT contain anything he wrote and, if he continued with Guns next year, it would simply involve him "filling in" when said tracks are released?  Meaning, touring on yet another GNR album written and largely recorded by previous guitarists, like he did for Chinese.


I think this might be the case too.

And, another silver lining might be that, without them around, they don't even need to be on the album.  Meaning it could be Bucket/Robin stuff untouched, which a lot of people always said they preferred.

I know would definitely want to hear Robin and Bucket's work untouched too. Plus remember Axl said Robins part on the next were already done, and that was after Robin rejoined NIN
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2015, 07:35:29 AM »

Fernando...

You have chimed in a little bit about Ron

What about DJ? Was Axl blindsided this?

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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2015, 01:33:11 PM »

New album would be wonderful...But regaining the live chemistry of Ron/DJ era GN'R may not be so easy....
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2015, 03:04:58 PM »

New album would be wonderful...But regaining the live chemistry of Ron/DJ era GN'R may not be so easy....

I don't think there was much chemistry between DJ & Ron TBH.  Now, Richard and Robin, THAT was some beautiful chemistry. See their duo performance of 'Beautiful' from 06-07 for reference. Either way, I'm hoping the concentration behind the scenes is more about getting the next album out than worrying about the touring lineup.

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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2015, 10:39:14 PM »

New album would be wonderful...But regaining the live chemistry of Ron/DJ era GN'R may not be so easy....

I don't think there was much chemistry between DJ & Ron TBH.  Now, Richard and Robin, THAT was some beautiful chemistry. See their duo performance of 'Beautiful' from 06-07 for reference. Either way, I'm hoping the concentration behind the scenes is more about getting the next album out than worrying about the touring lineup.

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« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2015, 03:21:11 AM »

Right, Bucket, who has released 600 albums the last years and left because of lack of productivity, would come back to GNR who havent been doing anything the past years.

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anyway, I don't think this matters too much. this "band" or we should better say "project" is not really based on any bandmembers and any actual release still includes parts recorded many years ago. so if we're gonna get a record sometime in the next 15-20 years or so, we can still count with Ron's or DJ's parts on it, as well as Bucket's or Robin's.
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« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2015, 08:02:19 AM »

Right, Bucket, who has released 600 albums the last years and left because of lack of productivity, would come back to GNR who havent been doing anything the past years.

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anyway, I don't think this matters too much. this "band" or we should better say "project" is not really based on any bandmembers and any actual release still includes parts recorded many years ago. so if we're gonna get a record sometime in the next 15-20 years or so, we can still count with Ron's or DJ's parts on it, as well as Bucket's or Robin's.
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How about some "fans" call it what it is -Guns N' Roses, yes it is a band.

Am looking forward to the next release.
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« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2015, 09:59:14 AM »

It doesn't matter what you call it.  Music is the only thing that matters.
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2015, 01:39:16 PM »

It doesn't matter what you call it.  Music is the only thing that matters.
right. and if there's zero music, zero releases, zero promotion, zero activity (besides various band members giving up and leaving) - you know what I mean Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2015, 01:50:20 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2015, 02:31:21 PM »

I would imagine that Ron & DJ's subsequent departures from Guns basically solidifies that the next release will consist solely of unreleased Chi Dem era tracks.  Which to me is such fantastic news.  The lineup that created that music was so creative and diverse, a full album of unreleased material from those sessions is pretty much the coolest thing I could hope for.
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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2015, 03:00:50 PM »

I just hope the 'new' CD era material is a little more Robin heavy than Bucket heavy... Two of the more bucket influenced tracks on CD (Shacklers and Scraped) are my least favorite of the 14 tracks.
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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2015, 03:22:47 PM »

I just hope the 'new' CD era material is a little more Robin heavy than Bucket heavy... Two of the more bucket influenced tracks on CD (Shacklers and Scraped) are my least favorite of the 14 tracks.

Looking forward to the track Axl said has an awesome Stevie Ray Vaughn-style solo drool
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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2015, 03:25:36 PM »

I just hope the 'new' CD era material is a little more Robin heavy than Bucket heavy... Two of the more bucket influenced tracks on CD (Shacklers and Scraped) are my least favorite of the 14 tracks.

I'm really curious as to just how much, if any, of Bucket's parts appear on the next release.  We know that a good portion of the album was recorded while he was still in the band from 2000-2003. I guess it would be a matter of Robin/Richard/Ron recording over his parts from 2004-2007. I wouldn't imagine Axl would be inclined to choose a Ron solo over Bucket's since he's no longer in the band, and has made a point to talk about how miserable he was in Guns in various interviews.

Richard recently stated that his favorite unreleased track features a great solo from Robin, so I think it's a good bet that he'll feature pretty heavily on the next release.
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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2015, 04:10:31 PM »



I just hope the 'new' CD era material is a little more Robin heavy than Bucket heavy... Two of the more bucket influenced tracks on CD (Shacklers and Scraped) are my least favorite of the 14 tracks.


Looking forward to the track Axl said has an awesome Stevie Ray Vaughn-style solo drool


That quote always stuck with me too.

Just can't imagine how that fits in with the CD era sound.
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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2015, 04:23:00 PM »

Soul Monster (Leave Me Alone) & The General have me the most intrigued.
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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2015, 05:44:38 PM »

I just hope the 'new' CD era material is a little more Robin heavy than Bucket heavy... Two of the more bucket influenced tracks on CD (Shacklers and Scraped) are my least favorite of the 14 tracks.

His solo in TWAT was pretty badass though
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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2015, 06:59:51 PM »

it probably means that there will not be any new guitar players this year, and well into 2016.
IMO  it would be wise to say.... "fk it" lets just chill... and see what happens... and make a sober decission.

really no point hiring a new guitar player right away. They/he need to get a grasp of situation/emotions... and decide then.
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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2015, 08:25:12 PM »

Fernando, Dr. Sin (one of the best brazilian hard rock band of all time) is over, and of course you know how awsome Edu Ardanuy is. Go get him!

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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2015, 03:41:31 PM »

I just hope the 'new' CD era material is a little more Robin heavy than Bucket heavy... Two of the more bucket influenced tracks on CD (Shacklers and Scraped) are my least favorite of the 14 tracks.

That's interesting, definitely two of my favourites in terms of the heavier material, especially Shacklers.. live it's just awesome.  The sheer amount of guitars on Scaped is awesome too.
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