DJ Ashba Decides To Make Sixx:A.M. His "Main Priority"

[TheBaconman]

I miss when this site actually had moderators


Whats g0ing on here

[norway]

? We want guns to be a popband now (lol)

Do you think it was a smart business plan, pushing the re-recorded song instead of the one everyone knows? 

I think it would be appropiate to put integrity above popularity/comercial intrest. Having said that, more than corefans would be intrested in this re-recorded AFD and the emorage alone would give much publicity.

[Ginger King]

I would simply like to hear cleaner versions of the "bootlegs, demos, alternative takes, jams, etc etc" on a proper studio release...I would like to see proper studio versions of Shadow of Your Love, Reckless Life, and Move to the City without the fake crowd noise in the background. I would like to see AFD remastered with said tracks as bonuses...with the original cover art. There are literally tons of things he can do just like the Stones just did with Sticky. I want the UYI documentary. I want the remainder of the Chinese sessions released....the list goes on and on. Hard core fans would eat it up and pay for it out of principal. It is money in the bank.

Axl has a vault....end of discussion.

I agree the vault exists?and I agree that hardcore fans would enjoy whatever comes out of it.  But how much money are we talking?  How many hardcore fans are left?  With each passing week/month/year, it seems reasonable that there is a corresponding decrease in interest.  I just don?t think the vault is this money printing cash cow, at least not anymore.  Also, I thought artistic integrity (a term I put on par with ?hiatus? on list of annoying words) ? and not money ? was the reason things are staying in the vault? 

[sky dog]

Ginge, you are fucking crazy...like Led Zep, for every hard core that leaves 2-3 come in it's place from a younger generation...they don't come here to argue....they just buy t-shirts and AFD and yada yada yada....it is a cash cow. One re-release of AFD...a small tour with a semi reunion, these guys are bank rolled for life (if they aren't already). Honestly, it is hard for normal people like us to comprehend because we aren't in their shoes.

[reayj2003]

I'm pretty sure Axl is not one for just spouting bullshit and the only thing we actually have on the future of GN'R is this....



?We recorded a lot of things before Chinese was out,? Rose says. ?We?ve worked more on some of those things and we?ve written a few new things. But basically, we have what I call kind of the second half of Chinese. That?s already recorded. And then we have a remix album made of the songs from Chinese. That?s been done for a while, too. But after Vegas [Guns N? Roses was performing a residency at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino that ran until June 7 2014], we?re going to start looking very seriously at what we?re doing in that regard.?

Once again I think there are outside factors...be it labels or whatever making it difficult for him to put the products out. Either that or there is an underlying fear that the material is just not good enough. Sadly one big problem is that anything Axl does without the original band is likely to get a very hard time critically and we fans really don't know how this effects him and whether he feels up to subjecting himself to that scrutiny. I don't think there are many artists that attract as much hate if i'm honest.

[reayj2003]

On a side note a few more magazine covers like that wouldn't hurt!

[sky dog]

ummm...CD did well critically...always a love/hate thing with Gnr...happened back in the day too.

[Ginger King]

Ginge, you are fucking crazy...like Led Zep, for every hard core that leaves 2-3 come in it's place from a younger generation...they don't come here to argue....they just buy t-shirts and AFD and yada yada yada....it is a cash cow. One re-release of AFD...a small tour with a semi reunion, these guys are bank rolled for life (if they aren't already). Honestly, it is hard for normal people like us to comprehend because we aren't in their shoes.

There's a difference, IMO, between (a) reunion and vault, and (b) just vault.  I agree that any scenario with a reunion would result in a huge financial windfall...a tour with Axl and Slash on the same stage would shatter records, sellout anywhere they wanted to play, and be the cash cow of all cash cows.  But just a vault, or a vault with a band that's on indefinite hiatus???  I think that commands much lower interest and much lower price.

[sky dog]

well, yes...but the vault still has value...good value.

[D-GenerationX]

The point I was getting at is that if he had some older stuff he could package with new band stuff as a whole "Complete History Of GNR" boxset.  I don't think he has that older stuff, though in fairness, I don't think it exists to be had. 

The vault, such as it is now, is basically the next album he won't release.  We're talking about outtakes and demos from sessions where we don't even have the original material yet though.

Business wise, I'm not sure its going to be much of a boon for him, as is. 

How do you sell the director's cut of a movie you never even put out in the first place?

[OscarAxl22]

From all reports there is definitely pro shot footage of most of the UYI shows and behind the scenes footage that was intended to be a full length doco on that tour. No idea if that was finished or not.. but either way.. id be more than interested to get my hands on some of those pro-shot shows from the UYI days.

[D-GenerationX]

From all reports there is definitely pro shot footage of most of the UYI shows and behind the scenes footage that was intended to be a full length doco on that tour. No idea if that was finished or not.. but either way.. id be more than interested to get my hands on some of those pro-shot shows from the UYI days.

Big time.

[norway]

The point I was getting at is that if he had some older stuff he could package with new band stuff as a whole "Complete History Of GNR" boxset.

Where would they sell that stuff? Recordstores are gone. Streaming seems to be the most relevant form of selling songs 2day.

Guess DJ and Axl will focus on selling their attendance. GNR is working on putting out a new album tho.

On a side note a few more magazine covers like that wouldn't hurt!

mhm

[EmilyGNR]

You have zero proof for the derogatory claims and labels of "laziness" or "procrastinator" because you are not privvy to any real knowledge or interaction.

You are still attempting to push Troll gospel here.

Yeah, I guess all that creative output over the past 15 years is always at the ready to be thrown back in my face when I say stuff like that.

That's my cross to bear.  I set myself up for that pitfall.

And now back to sarcasm as an attempt to save face.

Why am I not surprised?

You absolutely shouldn't be.

Ridiculous suggestions often receive ridiculous responses.

Want a serious response?  Put forth a serious argument.

Pretty basic concept.

Serious translates for you as to contribute to your negative little campaign in a pathetic attempt to paint all things GNR as somehow dark and bleak.

The only one ridiculous here is you, and your neverending petty  hate campaign against GNR to try and validate your sad little life and desperate attempts to impress others on the internet with your nonexistant Intellect,wit and humor.

You aren't entertaing, you aren't particularly smart and you aren't informed nor any sort of expert, you merely have internet access and inadequacy issues.

[D-GenerationX]

The point I was getting at is that if he had some older stuff he could package with new band stuff as a whole "Complete History Of GNR" boxset.

Where would they sell that stuff? Recordstores are gone. Streaming seems to be the most relevant form of selling songs 2day.

For a box set, you would presumably still put some sort of emphasis on packaging.  And if relying on the hardcore, assume they will spend the money and order it.

But I think a box set is on the outer fringe of the outer fringe of viable ideas for GNR from here on in. 

These guys can't ever get out an album.  Walk before you can run.

[D-GenerationX]

Serious translates for you as to contribute to your negative little campaign in a pathetic attempt to paint all things GNR as somehow dark and bleak.

The only one ridiculous here is you, and your neverending petty  hate campaign against GNR to try and validate your sad little life and desperate attempts to impress others on the internet with your nonexistant Intellect,wit and humor.

Emily, wake up.

You took the position that a man that has released 15 total songs in 16 long years has no issues on the laziness or procrastination fronts.

That's a ridiculous assertion.  Its a joke position that, if it deserves an answer at all, its a joke answer.

You and I have had discussions about any number of things.  I don't dismiss you out of hand by any stretch.

But this was a lob.  Come on.

[EmilyGNR]

Serious translates for you as to contribute to your negative little campaign in a pathetic attempt to paint all things GNR as somehow dark and bleak.

The only one ridiculous here is you, and your neverending petty  hate campaign against GNR to try and validate your sad little life and desperate attempts to impress others on the internet with your nonexistant Intellect,wit and humor.

Emily, wake up.

You took the position that a man that has released 15 total songs in 16 long years has no issues on the laziness or procrastination fronts.

That's a ridiculous assertion.  Its a joke position that, if it deserves an answer at all, its a joke answer.

You and I have had discussions about any number of things.  I don't dismiss you out of hand by any stretch.

But this was a lob.  Come on.

Simply because albums are not released on your little perceived schedule does in no way entail that this is somehow wrong.

There exists no hard and fast rule nor enforced schedule for releasing albums.

You are no sort of expert, you are not informed, you simply enjoy the attention others give your idiot opinions and stupid assumptions.

[EmilyGNR]

The point I was getting at is that if he had some older stuff he could package with new band stuff as a whole "Complete History Of GNR" boxset.

Where would they sell that stuff? Recordstores are gone. Streaming seems to be the most relevant form of selling songs 2day.

For a box set, you would presumably still put some sort of emphasis on packaging.  And if relying on the hardcore, assume they will spend the money and order it.

But I think a box set is on the outer fringe of the outer fringe of viable ideas for GNR from here on in. 

These guys can't ever get out an album.  Walk before you can run.

You are no sort of insider, industry expert or particularly informed.

Please present proof that an album release has been attempted in recent years and failed.

The revolver interview of 2014 states that a new album was being looked into.

Walk before you can run.

[D-GenerationX]

Simply because albums are not released on your little perceived schedule does in no way entail that this is somehow wrong.

There exists no hard and fast rule nor enforced schedule for releasing albums.

"Wrong"? No.  That's a totally subjective concept one could spin in any number of directions.  I wouldn't even go down that road, for that very reason.

Not productive?  That's hard and fast, that concept.  It doesn't even need the air quotes around it.  Output over time is an easily proven, concrete measure.

You want to get your spin on about the artistry of it all to explain away the meager output over time, that's your prerogative.  But that passage of time versus the output contained within is unassailable.

[D-GenerationX]

Please present proof that an album release has been attempted in recent years and failed.

I obviously cannot.

But, in all candor, I come down much firmer in the camp nothing has been tried whatsoever than I do something has been attempted and failed.

The revolver interview of 2014 states that a new album was being looked into.

Walk before you can run.

I agree.  Let's hope that pans out.

And that recent events that seem to fly in the face of that are not what they seem to appear.