Stay of execution release date

[Ginger King]

Bacon...the process is a pain in the ass.

You apply, pay a fee, and get a temporary/preliminary trademark.

Then you have to file a crap ton of paperwork, a detailed explanation of why you want it, what you're going to do with it (exactly) and why your use necessitates having the phrase/logo/etc trademarked.

Then, when you submit it, you pay an even bigger fee.

Then there is phase 3, where they ponder all the stuff you submitted, review to make sure there is no existing conflict with your trademark, and, I think,  allow "public comment" (ie: people can write in and object to your use because they are using the phrase/logo/etc in a similar way).

This looks to have gone through the first phase, and then the second was never completed (or the offices were notified that there was no intent to complete the 2nd phase).  There's lots of "non-DJ" reasons why that might be.

Heck...maybe they had an idea for use, and filed just to make sure there were no conflicts with something that IS trademarked...with no intention to go further.   Maybe their use doesn't require a trademark, but they wanted to make sure there were no potential conflicts/violations/confusions.

The process is not really that complicated...and let's be honest, Axl is not filling out the paperwork.  I don't think it was abandoned because the process was too complex or cost-prohibitive.

[pilferk]

Bacon...the process is a pain in the ass.

You apply, pay a fee, and get a temporary/preliminary trademark.

Then you have to file a crap ton of paperwork, a detailed explanation of why you want it, what you're going to do with it (exactly) and why your use necessitates having the phrase/logo/etc trademarked.

Then, when you submit it, you pay an even bigger fee.

Then there is phase 3, where they ponder all the stuff you submitted, review to make sure there is no existing conflict with your trademark, and, I think,  allow "public comment" (ie: people can write in and object to your use because they are using the phrase/logo/etc in a similar way).

This looks to have gone through the first phase, and then the second was never completed (or the offices were notified that there was no intent to complete the 2nd phase).  There's lots of "non-DJ" reasons why that might be.

Heck...maybe they had an idea for use, and filed just to make sure there were no conflicts with something that IS trademarked...with no intention to go further.   Maybe their use doesn't require a trademark, but they wanted to make sure there were no potential conflicts/violations/confusions.

The process is not really that complicated...and let's be honest, Axl is not filling out the paperwork.  I don't think it was abandoned because the process was too complex or cost-prohibitive.

Agree, it's not complicated.  It's just a pain in the ass.

Axl might not be the one filling out the paperwork, but he's the one sourcing the material (providing the explanation, etc) and funding the 2nd phase.  I don't think it was abandoned because it was too complex or costly.

I suspect it was abandoned because it was, ultimately, judged (for whatever reason) to be not worth the effort to get through phase 2 (or they were late....).

[TheBaconman]

Thanks boy for the explanation on the trademark process

[Ginger King]

Bacon...the process is a pain in the ass.

You apply, pay a fee, and get a temporary/preliminary trademark.

Then you have to file a crap ton of paperwork, a detailed explanation of why you want it, what you're going to do with it (exactly) and why your use necessitates having the phrase/logo/etc trademarked.

Then, when you submit it, you pay an even bigger fee.

Then there is phase 3, where they ponder all the stuff you submitted, review to make sure there is no existing conflict with your trademark, and, I think,  allow "public comment" (ie: people can write in and object to your use because they are using the phrase/logo/etc in a similar way).

This looks to have gone through the first phase, and then the second was never completed (or the offices were notified that there was no intent to complete the 2nd phase).  There's lots of "non-DJ" reasons why that might be.

Heck...maybe they had an idea for use, and filed just to make sure there were no conflicts with something that IS trademarked...with no intention to go further.   Maybe their use doesn't require a trademark, but they wanted to make sure there were no potential conflicts/violations/confusions.

The process is not really that complicated...and let's be honest, Axl is not filling out the paperwork.  I don't think it was abandoned because the process was too complex or cost-prohibitive.

Agree, it's not complicated.  It's just a pain in the ass.

Axl might not be the one filling out the paperwork, but he's the one sourcing the material (providing the explanation, etc) and funding the 2nd phase.  I don't think it was abandoned because it was too complex or costly.

I suspect it was abandoned because it was, ultimately, judged (for whatever reason) to be not worth the effort to get through phase 2 (or they were late....).

It kind of fits the "something changed" narrative that Jarmo alluded to.  Last fall, DJ was talking about 2015 being a big year for Guns...lots of touring and working on new album, etc., etc...and then "something changed" and the narrative went from touring/new album, to no touring this year, to he quit the band.  Plus, Richard's story changed as well, to where he recently admitted he has no clue what the next plans are.

[pilferk]

Thats the story of gnr, in a nutshell.