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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2015, 09:07:25 AM »

I loved the RIR01 live version,the song has become a classic.I don't mind if they don't play it live so often anymore.
An article i read mentioned that the Martin Luther King quote in the bridge took many years to get publishing rights.
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« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2015, 09:13:15 AM »

I loved the RIR01 live version,the song has become a classic.I don't mind if they don't play it live so often anymore.
An article i read mentioned that the Martin Luther King quote in the bridge took many years to get publishing rights.

I seem to remember that there were rumors that exactly this was one of the hold-ups to the album release.

If that was the case, Madagascar is probably a very important song to Axl.
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« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2015, 09:13:56 AM »


I loved the RIR01 live version,the song has become a classic.I don't mind if they don't play it live so often anymore.
An article i read mentioned that the Martin Luther King quote in the bridge took many years to get publishing rights.


I remember reading that as well.

Yet as that was going on, the quote was in a Sprint commercial or some shit.  Long distance calling was "free at last, free at last, thank god almighty, it was free at last."
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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2015, 09:28:36 AM »


I loved the RIR01 live version,the song has become a classic.I don't mind if they don't play it live so often anymore.
An article i read mentioned that the Martin Luther King quote in the bridge took many years to get publishing rights.


I remember reading that as well.

Yet as that was going on, the quote was in a Sprint commercial or some shit.  Long distance calling was "free at last, free at last, thank god almighty, it was free at last."

The amount of money that has been paid out by guns to other artists/copywrite holders is mind blowing.

With all the cover songs and odd samples here and there Guns N Roses has maid many people rich
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2015, 09:34:31 AM »


I loved the RIR01 live version,the song has become a classic.I don't mind if they don't play it live so often anymore.
An article i read mentioned that the Martin Luther King quote in the bridge took many years to get publishing rights.


I remember reading that as well.

Yet as that was going on, the quote was in a Sprint commercial or some shit.  Long distance calling was "free at last, free at last, thank god almighty, it was free at last."

The amount of money that has been paid out by guns to other artists/copywrite holders is mind blowing.

With all the cover songs and odd samples here and there Guns N Roses has maid many people rich


How much are we talking?
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« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2015, 09:46:35 AM »


I loved the RIR01 live version,the song has become a classic.I don't mind if they don't play it live so often anymore.
An article i read mentioned that the Martin Luther King quote in the bridge took many years to get publishing rights.


I remember reading that as well.

Yet as that was going on, the quote was in a Sprint commercial or some shit.  Long distance calling was "free at last, free at last, thank god almighty, it was free at last."

The amount of money that has been paid out by guns to other artists/copywrite holders is mind blowing.

With all the cover songs and odd samples here and there Guns N Roses has maid many people rich


How much are we talking?

I would just be guessing...  But why not.

So to make my guess a little more educated I will use a couple of things I do know.   Dire Straights had to pay Sting millions for his 30 seconds worth of work on "Money for nothing"   The Stones sued The Verve, over sampling on the song Bitter Sweet Symphony.  Again The Verve is on record saying they had to pay millions and really didnt make a dime off the song.  There biggest hit ever...

So I would say with any over song that GNR put on a album a large portion of that albums sales would go to the original artist.  So depending on that records sales, you would have different costs.  Lies and the UYI and the greatest hits sold tens of millions so the pay out on those albums would probably be in the millions.  Where is albums like TSI and Live ERA sold not so much, so the pay out would not be as much

As for sampling.....   I think there would probably just be a flat fee that is negotiated before the albums release.   Probably in the hundreds of thousands, give or take depending on the sample.

However it gets tricky when its an unapproved sample and the payout of a lawsuit could be huge.   On the album CD a band sued guns for using a sample with out permission...  I dont know the out come of that lawsuit.
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« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2015, 09:47:51 AM »

Semi-related, and don?t have numbers but, I remember reading somewhere that David Johansen made more money off of the royalties of Human Being on Spaghetti Incident than he did from his entire New York Dolls/Solo/Acting career.
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2015, 06:33:12 PM »

Imagine if there was a video for Madagascar as well.And actual MLK video footage was used !
It could be one waiting to get rights to this day and eventually come out  Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2015, 03:57:48 AM »

First new song I heard. Besides Oh My God.

It was on a low quality RealAudio stream on some Brazilian radio station broadcasting RIR3 in January 2001.
It was quite exciting to hear it and I remember thinking it did sound like GN'R, but with a modern twist.

Great song live as well.



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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2015, 11:28:09 PM »

Remember hearing this and treating it like a new Gnr single..even though it was just me playing it on a damn VHS tape
Love it - I think the CD version failed vs this one, but still a beautifully structured song...movie lines not withstanding
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« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2015, 07:38:05 PM »

Semi-related, and don?t have numbers but, I remember reading somewhere that David Johansen made more money off of the royalties of Human Being on Spaghetti Incident than he did from his entire New York Dolls/Solo/Acting career.

I'm guessing he did well as Buster Poindexter with Hot,Hot,Hot...
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