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Re: In a perfect world, what would the ideal situation be?
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In a perfect world fans would realize that GNR doesn't need or require any armchair quarterbacks.
Don't see how this topic qualifies as an armchair quarterback. Care to explain?
Maybe you can start your own thread about how great everything seems to be going right now.
She always says that sort of thing though. You are just supposed to sit quietly in the corner.
And any discussion, not matter how benign, is both an insult to the band as well as your proclamation that you should be running the band because you know everything about everything.
Playing armchair quarterback would imply that I am trying to tell or suggest what the band does next. All I was doing with this thread was asking a simple multiple choice question.
Your last sentence said "It's time for us to hear new music etc" You don't get to decide or determine when "It's time", and "us" certainly does not refer to everyone in the fanbase.
I'm very content to wait until the music is deemed ready, I have a life.
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Re: In a perfect world, what would the ideal situation be?
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 29, 2015, 11:23:55 AM
I'm very content to wait until the music is deemed ready, I have a life.
We all have lives. What does that have to do with anything?
We don't come here to talk about our lives though, do we? We come here to talk about Guns N' Roses.
So anyone telling you something you don't want to hear about GNR doesn't have a life? That's your big takeaway here?
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Re: In a perfect world, what would the ideal situation be?
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 29, 2015, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: D-GenerationX on May 29, 2015, 09:21:02 AM
Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 07:59:28 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 28, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
In a perfect world fans would realize that GNR doesn't need or require any armchair quarterbacks.
Don't see how this topic qualifies as an armchair quarterback. Care to explain?
Maybe you can start your own thread about how great everything seems to be going right now.
She always says that sort of thing though. You are just supposed to sit quietly in the corner.
And any discussion, not matter how benign, is both an insult to the band as well as your proclamation that you should be running the band because you know everything about everything.
Playing armchair quarterback would imply that I am trying to tell or suggest what the band does next. All I was doing with this thread was asking a simple multiple choice question.
Your last sentence said "It's time for us to hear new music etc" You don't get to decide or determine when "It's time", and "us" certainly does not refer to everyone in the fanbase.
I'm very content to wait until the music is deemed ready, I have a life.
Who said that I was trying to decide anything? I offered my opinion of what I would like.
Glad you have a life...enjoy it.
I have one too. Doesn't stop me from offering opinions on my favorite band.
Good for you if your happy with the staus quo.
Personally as someone in a band, I wouldnt want the people who follow us to be happy with the status quo. That would be boring no? Them wanting more shows me that they are interested to see what we put out and inspires us to keep on going and creating because ultimately it's what we do.
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Re: In a perfect world, what would the ideal situation be?
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 10:52:28 AM
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 28, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
In a perfect world fans would realize that GNR doesn't need or require any armchair quarterbacks.
Don't see how this topic qualifies as an armchair quarterback. Care to explain?
Maybe you can start your own thread about how great everything seems to be going right now.
She always says that sort of thing though. You are just supposed to sit quietly in the corner.
And any discussion, not matter how benign, is both an insult to the band as well as your proclamation that you should be running the band because you know everything about everything.
Playing armchair quarterback would imply that I am trying to tell or suggest what the band does next. All I was doing with this thread was asking a simple multiple choice question.
Your last sentence said "It's time for us to hear new music etc" You don't get to decide or determine when "It's time", and "us" certainly does not refer to everyone in the fanbase.
I'm very content to wait until the music is deemed ready, I have a life.
Who said that I was trying to decide anything? I offered my opinion of what I would like.
Glad you have a life...enjoy it.
I have one too. Doesn't stop me from offering opinions on my favorite band.
Good for you if your happy with the staus quo.
Personally as someone in a band, I wouldnt want the people who follow us to be happy with the status quo. That would be boring no? Them wanting more shows me that they are interested to see what we put out and inspires us to keep on going and creating because ultimately it's what we do.
Make no mistake, when a new album is available from GNR, I will buy it, and when the next touring cycle happens, I will be there.
I just am cognizant of the fact that this will happen when GNR deems it ready and not before.
I find it amusing when people mention "they are in a band" as some sort of qualifier or attempt at making their opinion more relevant
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Re: In a perfect world, what would the ideal situation be?
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 29, 2015, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: D-GenerationX on May 29, 2015, 09:21:02 AM
Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 07:59:28 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 28, 2015, 07:03:37 PM
In a perfect world fans would realize that GNR doesn't need or require any armchair quarterbacks.
Don't see how this topic qualifies as an armchair quarterback. Care to explain?
Maybe you can start your own thread about how great everything seems to be going right now.
She always says that sort of thing though. You are just supposed to sit quietly in the corner.
And any discussion, not matter how benign, is both an insult to the band as well as your proclamation that you should be running the band because you know everything about everything.
Playing armchair quarterback would imply that I am trying to tell or suggest what the band does next. All I was doing with this thread was asking a simple multiple choice question.
Your last sentence said "It's time for us to hear new music etc" You don't get to decide or determine when "It's time", and "us" certainly does not refer to everyone in the fanbase.
I'm very content to wait until the music is deemed ready, I have a life.
Who said that I was trying to decide anything? I offered my opinion of what I would like.
Glad you have a life...enjoy it.
I have one too. Doesn't stop me from offering opinions on my favorite band.
Good for you if your happy with the staus quo.
Personally as someone in a band, I wouldnt want the people who follow us to be happy with the status quo. That would be boring no? Them wanting more shows me that they are interested to see what we put out and inspires us to keep on going and creating because ultimately it's what we do.
Make no mistake, when a new album is available from GNR, I will buy it, and when the next touring cycle happens, I will be there.
I just am cognizant of the fact that this will happen when GNR deems it ready and not before.
I find it amusing when people mention "they are in a band" as some sort of qualifier or attempt at making their opinion more relevant
Once again I'm offering my opionion about people who follow my band. In no way have I ever implied that it makes my opinion more relevant than anyone elses. Im a fan like everyone else on this board.
Personally I dont get your angle here. I started the thread as a means to get "fans" opinions on what they would want in a perfect world. You have used it as an oportunity to attack. Not once have you said which of the four options you would want. Only that you'll be content with whatever comes next.
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Re: In a perfect world, what would the ideal situation be?
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 01:54:02 PM
Once again I'm offering my opionion about people who follow my band. In no way have I ever implied that it makes my opinion more relevant than anyone elses. Im a fan like everyone else on this board.
Personally I dont get your angle here. I started the thread as a means to get "fans" opinions on what they would want in a perfect world. You have used it as an oportunity to attack. Not once have you said which of the four options you would want. Only that you'll be content with whatever comes next.
That's not news.
Search her posts. All she brings to the table in most any thread is lecturing people on things they never said based on her false premises.
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Re: In a perfect world, what would the ideal situation be?
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 01:54:02 PM
Once again I'm offering my opionion about people who follow my band. In no way have I ever implied that it makes my opinion more relevant than anyone elses. Im a fan like everyone else on this board.
Personally I dont get your angle here. I started the thread as a means to get "fans" opinions on what they would want in a perfect world. You have used it as an oportunity to attack. Not once have you said which of the four options you would want. Only that you'll be content with whatever comes next.
That's not news.
Search her posts. All she brings to the table in most any thread is lecturing people on things they never said based on her false premises.
It's to the point of getting ridiculous. All I'm trying to do is get an honest discussion among "fans". Isn't this a fan site after all? Nobody is trying to play "armchair quarterback". No one is demanding anything from anybody.
And the attack on me saying that I use the fact that I'm in a band to enhance my points is such a crock. She totally missed my point.
Not for nothing but as a fan would you be happy if they just decided to become a novelty act? I mean if your truly happy with whatever they do then you would welcome that.
Not me, these guys are way too talented to go that route. I would love to hear more from them. ( Thats not a demand)
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 02:20:09 PM
Not for nothing but as a fan would you be happy if they just decided to become a novelty act? I mean if your truly happy with whatever they do then you would welcome that.
I think Appetite For Another Residency with no new material is just the band running place. Its hard to get crazy excited about it.
Now, that will be twisted into me saying I don't want to see them tour, don't want people to go to the shows, don't want people to have fun, etc.
But its not that at all. Its sort of like you say, how happy can you be with that? I would think any fan wants to see them progress, do new things, and do them well.
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Some say that Las Vegas residencies are just like the places were dinosaurs went to die.Whales do that as well.
I think the 2 previous were very successfull,we got a release from that era,moving forward now is not another 12-show casino house band.
Release whatever song is ready,go on summer festivals around the world and not a word again on reunion.
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Some say that Las Vegas residencies are just like the places were dinosaurs went to die.Whales do that as well.
I think the 2 previous were very successfull,we got a release from that era,moving forward now is not another 12-show casino house band.
Release whatever song is ready,go on summer festivals around the world and not a word again on reunion.
I would take that. At least the band would be moving forward with a new release.
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Quote from: nick6sic6 on May 29, 2015, 03:33:47 PM
Some say that Las Vegas residencies are just like the places were dinosaurs went to die.Whales do that as well.
I think the 2 previous were very successfull,we got a release from that era,moving forward now is not another 12-show casino house band.
Release whatever song is ready,go on summer festivals around the world and not a word again on reunion.
I would take that. At least the band would be moving forward with a new release.
There were a lot of positive things from last year that made you feel (not demand) that the next chapter was happening. The band sounded great, Axl himself talked about new music being already recorded, there was multiple band members talking about touring in 2015, studio tweets, etc...and then it all seemed to stop. Or as some have described it here, "something changed." We don't know what that something is (BBF leaving, everyone's side project increasing in demand) but clearly something changed and the movie is on pause now.
The point of all of this (I think) is for fans to discuss their opinions...knowing quite well that (a) we've never met Axl, and (b) management will not act based on our discussions. If you're opinion is sit back and be happy when they tell you to be happy, then there's no real point of having a discussion, right?
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I think it is basically a given that nothing we will ever talk about will ever in any way steer Axl in that said direction. His own band mates seem to have a problem motivating him so I highly doubt any poster here holds any illusions that they are able to influence the turn of events. It is such a given, that it should be left unstated.
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Quote from: mortismurphy on May 29, 2015, 05:13:36 PM
I think it is basically a given that nothing we will ever talk about will ever in any way steer Axl in that said direction. His own band mates seem to have a problem motivating him so I highly doubt any poster here holds any illusions that they are able to influence the turn of events. It is such a given, that it should be left unstated.
I would honestly hope he isnt motivated by anything being spoken in a fan message board.
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Honestly, Vegas was the best time I've ever had following this band.
I've got my fingers-crossed for another residency soon, and enjoying Axl's activity on Twitter.
Can't wait to see what Beatrazr will come up with next.
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 01:54:02 PM
Once again I'm offering my opionion about people who follow my band. In no way have I ever implied that it makes my opinion more relevant than anyone elses. Im a fan like everyone else on this board.
Personally I dont get your angle here. I started the thread as a means to get "fans" opinions on what they would want in a perfect world. You have used it as an oportunity to attack. Not once have you said which of the four options you would want. Only that you'll be content with whatever comes next.
That's not news.
Search her posts. All she brings to the table in most any thread is lecturing people on things they never said based on her false premises.
Please post all my false premises oh learned one -
I have stated previously that the band needs no armchair quarterbacks
I have stated the band does not need unsolicited amateur advice about non-negotiable issues.
And I have stated people tired of waiting should stop waiting, I was inspired by some very wise words on this matter - here's a refresher in case you've forgotten.
"If you're waiting...don't. Live your life. That's your responsibility not mine. If it were not to happen, you won't have missed a thing. If in fact it does, you might get something that works for you ? in the end you could win on this either way. But if you're really into waiting, try holding your breath for Jesus 'cause I hear the payoff may be that much greater."
Read more at
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-axl-rose-speaks/#h6R4iJPXP810qVgG.99
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Re: In a perfect world, what would the ideal situation be?
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: mortismurphy on May 29, 2015, 05:13:36 PM
I think it is basically a given that nothing we will ever talk about will ever in any way steer Axl in that said direction. His own band mates seem to have a problem motivating him so I highly doubt any poster here holds any illusions that they are able to influence the turn of events. It is such a given, that it should be left unstated.
I would honestly hope he isnt motivated by anything being spoken in a fan message board.
IF he ever was like that,we'd get Chinese Democracy in 2002-2003 and they'd be playing requests like Metallica
(pathetic).
...and i'm not even touching the original members universe.imagine what would happen there.
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Quote from: mortismurphy on May 29, 2015, 05:13:36 PM
I think it is basically a given that nothing we will ever talk about will ever in any way steer Axl in that said direction. His own band mates seem to have a problem motivating him so I highly doubt any poster here holds any illusions that they are able to influence the turn of events. It is such a given, that it should be left unstated.
Please provide proof for band mates having a problem motivating him without mentioning Ron's endless whining.
I sincerely think the calibre of most forums and members is taken into consideration.
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 02:20:09 PM
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Quote from: Ow-So7411501 on May 29, 2015, 01:54:02 PM
Once again I'm offering my opionion about people who follow my band. In no way have I ever implied that it makes my opinion more relevant than anyone elses. Im a fan like everyone else on this board.
Personally I dont get your angle here. I started the thread as a means to get "fans" opinions on what they would want in a perfect world. You have used it as an oportunity to attack. Not once have you said which of the four options you would want. Only that you'll be content with whatever comes next.
That's not news.
Search her posts. All she brings to the table in most any thread is lecturing people on things they never said based on her false premises.
It's to the point of getting ridiculous. All I'm trying to do is get an honest discussion among "fans". Isn't this a fan site after all? Nobody is trying to play "armchair quarterback". No one is demanding anything from anybody.
And the attack on me saying that I use the fact that I'm in a band to enhance my points is such a crock. She totally missed my point.
Not for nothing but as a fan would you be happy if they just decided to become a novelty act? I mean if your truly happy with whatever they do then you would welcome that.
Not me, these guys are way too talented to go that route. I would love to hear more from them. ( Thats not a demand)
You started this topic with the words "In a perfect world" I simply stated my preferences for my view of a perfect world.
I didn't want to vote on the choices you gave, so I invented an alternative choice that I believe in.
You have twisted what I said, I stated that I'm always amused when someone feels a need to say "they are in a band" to try and give more relevance to their opinion.
Why mention it at all?
If you feel "attacked" you are incapable of honest discussion and reasonable debate.
On a more pleasant note, I have 4 months of vacation saved up for when the next tour is announced
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 29, 2015, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: mortismurphy on May 29, 2015, 05:13:36 PM
I think it is basically a given that nothing we will ever talk about will ever in any way steer Axl in that said direction. His own band mates seem to have a problem motivating him so I highly doubt any poster here holds any illusions that they are able to influence the turn of events. It is such a given, that it should be left unstated.
Please provide proof for band mates having a problem motivating him without mentioning Ron's endless whining.
I sincerely think the calibre of most forums and members is taken into consideration.
Well I was going to mention Ron, but you may also mention Slash, Duff and Matt turning up to an Axlless studio in 1996 (ironically, his sessions, his time, his direction), or Axl's inability or unwillingless to forge a songwriting partnership with Gilby Clarke. Buckethead obviously was not a motivation enough to get CD out on time, and Robin looked for pastures new. It is also not hard to read between the lines that the current members (minus Axl) desire an album.
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halp, reunionists!
TEH POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS J00!
release a new album and go fucking tour, remember to bite a securityhitler in sweden
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