What's your feeling on the next live performance?

[D-GenerationX]

You mention a one off, then say they want nothing to do with it.

Somewhat of an oxymoron.

Well, let's assume for the sake of argument another album does actually come out.  Robin has to be all over it, right? 

Do you think there is much chance he will come back in any real capacity to support it?

Bucket won't even allow discussion of his time with the band.  Hard to argue he's all that enthused about it.

[jarmo]

Will he come back? I don't think so. He seems happy doing what he's doing.
Does that mean he wants nothing to do with it? No.

If he goes out in public and announces he wants nothing to do with it, you might have a point. Until then, you're just exaggerating again.



/jarmo

[Spirit]

What's Robin doing now anyways?

[JAEBALL]

Always been crazy to me that he was around for so many years and bolts right before the release...

I can't help but think if communication between all parties were better things like that wouldn't happen.

[Spirit]

Always been crazy to me that he was around for so many years and bolts right before the release...

I don't think we'll ever get to know his reasoning behind that. He hasn't commented on his leaving as far as I know.

[JAEBALL]

Unfortunately... his silence a long with Bucket on all things GNR and those songs make you believe that it's not important to them and don't care about their time with Axl.

Doesn't mean its true... but that's what it looks like.

[jarmo]

Unfortunately... his silence a long with Bucket on all things GNR and those songs make you believe that it's not important to them and don't care about their time with Axl.

Doesn't mean its true... but that's what it looks like.

Plenty of GN'R talk here: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/robin_finck_ive_been_very_blessed_with_the_opportunities_and_ive_enjoyed_saying_yes_to_them.html



/jarmo

[Spirit]

Unfortunately... his silence a long with Bucket on all things GNR and those songs make you believe that it's not important to them and don't care about their time with Axl.

Doesn't mean its true... but that's what it looks like.

Plenty of GN'R talk here: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/robin_finck_ive_been_very_blessed_with_the_opportunities_and_ive_enjoyed_saying_yes_to_them.html



/jarmo

Thanks! Somehow I've missed this interview. 


He seems to have only good memories from his time in Guns. Praises Buckethead as well, it doesn't come off as it was any friction between them, as it has been speculated in the past.

Pretty funny that part of the reason Robin came back after leaving the first time and they ended up being 3 guitar players, was that Bucket was improvising so much when playing the old songs that they needed the 3rd player as an anchor to the melody. 

[JAEBALL]

I never saw that interview either, or at least don't remember it.  Cool

Still don't understand the timing of his departure.

[Spirit]

I never saw that interview either, or at least don't remember it.  Cool

Still don't understand the timing of his departure.

Not sure how certain Axl was that Chinese would get released soon at the time Robin left. If it was still up in the air, I can understand him joining NIN again with some uncertainty around GNR.

If the whole band knew that the release was just months away, it's more of a mystery. Robin leaving was probably the major holdup for the subsequent tour.

[GeorgeSteele]

I never saw that interview either, or at least don't remember it.  Cool

Still don't understand the timing of his departure.

My guess is that because GNR were neither recording nor touring then (nor any plans to tour at the time), he was not generating any income.  Under that circumstance, if an opportunity with NIN arises and you can make money again, it's hard to say no to that.  Perhaps if CD had been released sooner, he would have had an income stream from his royalty shares on that album and so would have been in a better position to say no to Reznor.

[Spirit]

I never saw that interview either, or at least don't remember it.  Cool

Still don't understand the timing of his departure.

My guess is that because GNR were neither recording nor touring then (nor any plans to tour at the time), he was not generating any income.  Under that circumstance, if an opportunity with NIN arises and you can make money again, it's hard to say no to that.  Perhaps if CD had been released sooner, he would have had an income stream from his royalty shares on that album and so would have been in a better position to say no to Reznor.

I'm not sure if the band members were in 2008, but in the "dark years" of 2003-2005 they were on a retainer per Brain. Though, touring with NIN would probably generate more money for him personally.

[rebelhipi]

What's Robin doing now anyways?

You've been working on your own solo album?

Yeah. I was in the throes of that when Trent called me for this tour and so I'm looking to get into that when this tour lands at some point next year. I've really been woodshedding on my own and the songs are born on piano or guitar and building them up from there. But I have yet to introduce them to any wall of noise just yet.

This is from the interview, Jarmo linked.

[Spirit]

What's Robin doing now anyways?

You've been working on your own solo album?

Yeah. I was in the throes of that when Trent called me for this tour and so I'm looking to get into that when this tour lands at some point next year. I've really been woodshedding on my own and the songs are born on piano or guitar and building them up from there. But I have yet to introduce them to any wall of noise just yet.

This is from the interview, Jarmo linked.

Looking forward to that. 

[GeorgeSteele]

I never saw that interview either, or at least don't remember it.  Cool

Still don't understand the timing of his departure.

My guess is that because GNR were neither recording nor touring then (nor any plans to tour at the time), he was not generating any income.  Under that circumstance, if an opportunity with NIN arises and you can make money again, it's hard to say no to that.  Perhaps if CD had been released sooner, he would have had an income stream from his royalty shares on that album and so would have been in a better position to say no to Reznor.

I'm not sure if the band members were in 2008, but in the "dark years" of 2003-2005 they were on a retainer per Brain. Though, touring with NIN would probably generate more money for him personally.

I'd be surprised if they were still on retainer in 2008... I think the label had cut off funding by then, so I doubt Axl would have been paying the band members out of his own pocket while they were sitting at home.

[rebelhipi]

I never saw that interview either, or at least don't remember it.  Cool

Still don't understand the timing of his departure.

My guess is that because GNR were neither recording nor touring then (nor any plans to tour at the time), he was not generating any income.  Under that circumstance, if an opportunity with NIN arises and you can make money again, it's hard to say no to that.  Perhaps if CD had been released sooner, he would have had an income stream from his royalty shares on that album and so would have been in a better position to say no to Reznor.

I'm not sure if the band members were in 2008, but in the "dark years" of 2003-2005 they were on a retainer per Brain. Though, touring with NIN would probably generate more money for him personally.

I think the timing is pretty logical. NIN were getting short of a lead guitarist, and getting ready to tour the world.  
Guns were on a break.

Robin accepted to join NIN. leaving Guns the options. 1 Wait for Robin. 2. Finding a new guitarist.

Looking foward to a Robin Fink solo album indeed.

[Spirit]

Robin accepted to join NIN. leaving Guns the options. 1 Wait for Robin. 2. Finding a new guitarist.

Funny thing is, NIN played their last show in the Wave Goodbye tour on September 10, 2009 and then went on hiatus. Robin could actually have joined Guns in Taiwan for the first show in 2009. But by then Dj had already joined...

[rebelhipi]

Robin accepted to join NIN. leaving Guns the options. 1 Wait for Robin. 2. Finding a new guitarist.

Funny thing is, NIN played their last show in the Wave Goodbye tour on September 10, 2009 and then went on hiatus. Robin could actually have joined Guns in Taiwan for the first show in 2009. But by then Dj had already joined...

So they decided to move on without waiting on Robin. Or maybe Robin said that he dosent want to to continue with guns.

But its quite strange that since Robin joined NIN in 2008 GN'R and NINs tours has crossed paths only in 2014.

[TheBaconman]

Ha yes I do prefer somebody who was involved with GNR in the past over another completely new guy.

Yeah, but everybody that leaves seems to burn the boats.

The amount of ex players that have come back to play shows greatly out weighs that of the ones that have never.

Who hasn't come back.  Slash, Bucket and Steven.   I will count Axl singing with Gilby in LA as a show

Yeah, but those are one offs.  I'm talking as a full time guy on a tour.

Bucket and Robin helped create this material and want nothing to do with it. 

There is a certain truth to this over the too statement

If bucket and Robin really liked and we're proud of the material they created during CD. Why haven't they ever played anything from it, during the other live concerts.   I have never seen bucket break out one of his guns solos.  Or Robin try and play anything from guns live.

Most,other guys that are in bands that have written songs, once they leave.  Take a a couple as there own to play on there own live.

[D-GenerationX]

If bucket and Robin really liked and we're proud of the material they created during CD. Why haven't they ever played anything from it, during the other live concerts.   I have never seen bucket break out one of his guns solos.  Or Robin try and play anything from guns live.

Most,other guys that are in bands that have written songs, once they leave.  Take a a couple as there own to play on there own live.

I think so.

Bucket is clear cut as can be.  He forbade discussion of his time with GNR on his site, the only one of the myriad of projects he is involved where that happened.  Not the actions of a man that left with good feelings.

With Robin, just look at the facts.  Axl gave him more of a chance to show his creative wares than Trent ever did.  Robin spends the better part of a decade on the project.  When the payoff is about to come (finally) he bolts to go back to being a session musician/touring band guy for Trent.  Who is picking that set-up if they are happy where they are?

As for playing stuff he did with GNR live, Trent is unlikely to allow that given how he feels about Axl.  He trolls him pretty hard.  So that part does not surprise me.