What's your feeling on the next live performance?

[Spirit]

For some reason, even though we've had periods with months of tour breaks in the past 6 years, I feel this break is different. I'm slowly getting back to a 2006 sort of feeling, in anticipation of the next move.

Axl was handing out Chinese Democracy platinum awards to everyone who had a part in GN'R in recent time and my personal opinion on that is that he was closing out the Chinese Democracy chapter of GN'R. New adventures ahead.

I can remember the excitement of new shows getting announced starting in February of 2006 if I remember correctly. The wait had been considerably longer back then of course, but still I feel that this time there's something similar in the air. Of course, that feeling will not kick in 100% until the first show has been announced, hopefully this time to coincide with an album.

Can you guys remember how you felt back in 2006? For me, that was the real comeback for Axl. I remember 2001/2 fondly, but in a different way for some reason.

I have a strong feeling that if there are shows getting announced before there's an album, this time they'll play some new songs. I know, I know.... we say this e-v-e-r-y time they start a new leg of a tour. But, like I said, my experience of this whole thing is that they closed out their newest album with the last run in Vegas.



Finally, I would like to say that I hope to once again see a forum that'll pretty much explode with people and posts, especially during their first new show. It's pretty fun.

[jarmo]

You mention 2006. But, December 2009 often gets overlooked.

The first shows of the band since the album was released. The first with Dj.

2006 was, as you say, the return of Axl. 2009 was similar, but it was also the return of GN'R with an album out.




/jarmo

[Spirit]

2009/2010 was big, I agree with you there. And what a payoff we got as fans! Huge setlists, biggest production in years and an Axl who sounded better than ever.

I think of 2006 differently though, just because they hadn't released the album yet and the setlist was a total surprise in the first shows. Of course, I don't know if that's the way it'll go down this time around but right now, that's the feeling I have. Hopeful and nostalgic (it's been 9 years after all). 

I guess the fact that there was several interviews with Axl just ahead and during the tour starting in 2006 added to the excitement.

[D-GenerationX]

2001/02 was like the toe in the water test for the comeback.  I think it was obvious he was not quite ready.  But I think he needed to get that out of the way.

2006 though, he was awesome.  In great shape, in great voice.  And the shows seemed more like their own thing.  2002 really seemed like a GNR coverband with as of then unheard songs mixed in.  2006 seemed more like a band.

2009/10 are the best shows since the album came out.  I don't think its close either.

What's next?  Well, I think he only really has one more big move left.  One more album one more tour behind said album.  He's not a kid anymore. 

I hope he has one more great run.  I hope he uses this time off the past year and however longer it goes to get in good shape, good voice, and do it all right one more time.  That would be awesome.

Do I expect it? 

Not really, to be honest.  I'm pretty much giving you the best case scenario there.

[Spirit]

When it comes to his voice, I'm not an expert on the workings of the human singing voice. I do know that he sounded very good at the last Vegas shows, so to me that tells me he still has it in him.

I suspect that 2009/2010 was Axl going full throttle at all times and when that caused a lot of wear to his voice, he gave more controlled performances in the following years, for durability really.

[jarmo]

2006 was also different in the sense that we didn't know the guitar player replacing Buckethead.

Some new songs performed for the first time as well.

But then in 2009, it was like it was for real. First tour since the album, more new songs, more longer shows....




/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

I suspect that 2009/2010 was Axl going full throttle at all times and when that caused a lot of wear to his voice, he gave more controlled performances in the following years, for durability really.

Yes, I've seen that speculated as well.  And it could be, if you listen to the bootlegs of that time.

I thought he sounded good in Vegas in 2014 after sounding pretty rough in South America.  I'd love a quality bootleg of one of the last few nights in Vegas, great shows.

[D-GenerationX]

2006 was also different in the sense that we didn't know the guitar player replacing Buckethead.

Some new songs performed for the first time as well.

But then in 2009, it was like it was for real. First tour since the album, more new songs, more longer shows....

Agreed all around.

And 2006 was cool when they played the leaks we had all been playing non-stop for 3 months.  It gave you an impression this actually was going to happen.

[jarmo]

I'd love a quality bootleg of one of the last few nights in Vegas, great shows.

You really shouldn't post things like that. It's like scoring in an open net!


The next chapter will be interesting. For the real fans.
In a way, it might be like 2006. If they decide to keep the guitar player situation secret.





/jarmo

[Spirit]

2006 was also different in the sense that we didn't know the guitar player replacing Buckethead.

Some new songs performed for the first time as well.

But then in 2009, it was like it was for real. First tour since the album, more new songs, more longer shows....




/jarmo

Yes, I loved both years for different reasons. In 2009 you could be pretty sure that they wouldn't play any new unheard original material ? it was after all the Chinese Democracy tour. But still, there were a lot of songs from that album that had never been performed live and that was exciting. A new guitar player was also something I remember being curious about.

2006 was more about a mysterious atmosphere surrounding Guns N' Roses. They had been gone for years and we had no idea of what to expect really. We're sort of in a similar situation now, with band members being in or out? Is there a new album coming out? Stay of Execution? Chinese Democracy 2? There are lots of things up in the air...

[JAEBALL]

I have no clue what to expect the next time we hear from Axl... and its becoming clear it's most likely going to be a little while considering all the commitments Richard and DJ seem to have lined up...

Who is in the touring band really doesn't interest me much...I personally hope Duff is the bass player.. but that's about it.

I really just hope to hear some of Axl's hidden gems , the next time he performs.

[D-GenerationX]

I'd love a quality bootleg of one of the last few nights in Vegas, great shows.

You really shouldn't post things like that. It's like scoring in an open net!

See, and my original post had a line right after that saying, "But I would not force even my enemies to listen to the South American shows."

But I thought, hey...why break balls?  But, I mean, if you want to break balls...

[Spirit]

Who is in the touring band really doesn't interest me much...I personally hope Duff is the bass player.. but that's about it.

Just hypothetically, if say Buckethead was back it wouldn't interest you?

[D-GenerationX]

Who is in the touring band really doesn't interest me much...I personally hope Duff is the bass player.. but that's about it.

Just hypothetically, if say Buckethead was back it wouldn't interest you?

That would be a miracle.  And awesome.

[jarmo]

I'd love a quality bootleg of one of the last few nights in Vegas, great shows.

You really shouldn't post things like that. It's like scoring in an open net!

See, and my original post had a line right after that saying, "But I would not force even my enemies to listen to the South American shows."

But I thought, hey...why break balls?  But, I mean, if you want to break balls...

No matter what you add, doesn't change the fact that it can be summed up in one word: Karma.

Next time you want a bootleg of a show, don't tell people to stay home!
Now, go play with those balls..... 

Ironic innit!



/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

Ironic

Man, I have got an Inigo Montoya t-shirt with your name all over it, my friend.

Do we do Secret Santa here?  I call Jarmo.

[jarmo]

Like I said, open net.

I got an iPod manual with your name on it, it explains the repeat feature so you don't need to put the same songs X times in a playlist to play the same song over and over. 




/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

Who is in the touring band really doesn't interest me much...I personally hope Duff is the bass player.. but that's about it.

Just hypothetically, if say Buckethead was back it wouldn't interest you?

Yes but only because I assume he created a lot of the guitar parts that will be featured on the next record. So yeah of course I'd always prefer to see the person responsible for the song on stage. However I can't say I have ever been a fan of Bucket's whole package.

So if Ron is gone.. he'd be my first choice to step back in to that role for that reason.

[jarmo]

Why do you think Bucket would be back after he's been gone for over a decade?




/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

Yes but only because I assume he created a lot of the guitar parts that will be featured on the next record. So yeah of course I'd always prefer to see the person responsible for the song on stage. However I can't say I have ever been a fan of Bucket's whole package.

The whole schtick is goofy, no question.  And this is a wrestling fan saying that.

But the dude can flat out play.  That's all I care about.  I like a number of musicians and athletes that are weirdos and/or jerks off the field or the stage.  Never really bothered me.

I also think if hell froze over and both Bucket and/or Robin came back, it might reignite some of Axl's (hopefully) dormant fire.  For the reasons you said, that's who created the music they are playing.