Axl Rose's letter to Indonesian President

[JAEBALL]

Wow...

Don't know what to say that one.

Intense.

How about: Great to hear from Axl!

Or: Nice of him to do that.

Just some suggestions.




/jarmo

Overly protective today ?

I just thought it was an intense emotional letter...

I love Axl the singer ... As far as his personal beliefs or what he thinks about x y and z.. Not that important to me, and I doubt very important to the decision makers regarding this situation. It would be great to hear from him if it was regarding GNR . That's just me.

[jarmo]

Overly protective because I suggested you could say something positive about Axl taking time out to write a letter on a serious issue?

Wow.

Yeah, I get that it's got very little to do with GN'R and your wish for updates. But sometimes it's nice to take a moment and think of others instead of what you need/want though.



/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

Overly protective because I suggested you could say something positive about Axl taking time out to write a letter on a serious issue?

Wow.



/jarmo

But I didn't say anything negative ! I just commented how intense the letter was which was just my initial reaction ...im sorry that wasn't positive enough! Grrrr we need new songs.

[pilferk]

Overly protective because I suggested you could say something positive about Axl taking time out to write a letter on a serious issue?

Wow.



/jarmo

But I didn't say anything negative ! I just commented how intense the letter was which was just my initial reaction ...im sorry that wasn't positive enough! Grrrr we need new songs.

I'd actually offer up that what we need is a htgth bonding day. Lots of beer/booze, shit shooting, and shaking hands.

Think we can get axl to get the boys on the phone, and play a gig, just for us (we'll buy tickets!), near a major metro airport.

Nyc is nice this time of year.

(I am totally kidding on the gig...unless...you know....)

[D-GenerationX]

I'd actually offer up that what we need is a htgth bonding day. Lots of neer/boize, shit shooting, and shaking hands.

Think we can get axl to get the boys on the phone, and play a gig, just for us (we'll buy tickets!), near a major metro airport.

Nyc is nice this time of year.

(I am totally kidding on the gig...unless...you know....)

Hahaha

Now here's a guy thinking outside the box.  I like it.

[JAEBALL]

I wasn't aware that the president is a known GNR fan ...

That's an interesting wrinkle.

I'm always down for some good bonding over a NEER ha

Again I just thought the letter was emotional and intense, that was my initial reaction so I posted exactly that  ... You want to celebrate him writing it ... Go ahead ..

[D-GenerationX]

It certainly was not negative, what you wrote.

Its the clearest written thing I have ever seen from the guy.  Not even close.

[pilferk]

I'm always down for some good bonding over a NEER ha

Fuck you, man. 

I'm on my ipad. The typos take over. I end up editing almost as much as typing the post....

When next there is a htgth meetup, i am coming with a drink recipe  for a "neer" that will fuck you up. And you are drinking (more than) one! Just pray i dont put nyquil in that motherfucker.

[MNGS717]

The president of Indonesia, Joko Widodo



http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-ff-indonesia-president-20150411-story.html

[jarmo]

Again I just thought the letter was emotional and intense, that was my initial reaction so I posted exactly that  ... You want to celebrate him writing it ... Go ahead ..

Yes it is. Serious issue.

Celebrate? No. You're just using silly words to try to ridicule what I said.

I'd actually offer up that what we need is a htgth bonding day. Lots of beer/booze, shit shooting, and shaking hands.

Isn't that something we used to call a pre-show?




/jarmo

[pilferk]

Again I just thought the letter was emotional and intense, that was my initial reaction so I posted exactly that  ... You want to celebrate him writing it ... Go ahead ..

Yes it is. Serious issue.

Celebrate? No. You're just using silly words to try to ridicule what I said.

I'd actually offer up that what we need is a htgth bonding day. Lots of beer/booze, shit shooting, and shaking hands.

Isn't that something we used to call a pre-show?




/jarmo

Yup. Pre show hammerstien, preshow roseland....

So we needa find a show to pre...right?   

[jarmo]

Things like that are so much easier in Las Vegas!
The bar and the venue are in the same place. And so is your hotel! 


/jarmo

[pilferk]

Things like that are so much easier in Las Vegas!
The bar and the venue are in the same place. And so is your hotel! 


/jarmo

I wanted to go last year...has it all lined up. 2 shows, one on my birthday (june 7th).

Then....work fucked it all up.

Soooo.....now i need a redo.

[Nightrain7]

This issue has touched a lot of our aussie and the worlds hearts.

A tragic and draconian display of justice. An inability to recognise change and remorse at it's deepest sincerity, is in its own way a devasting reality of a cruel , out of touch and injust legal system.To torture with the unknown for over a decade shows such a lack of integrity and respect to humanity. A prolonged and ghastly treatment of the families and abating a false sense of hope, is as undignified and calamitous as the crime committed over a decade ago.

Axl's letter was well written and very heartfelt.

[IKnowWhereIAM]

Forgiving mistakes...being more criminal for not forgiving...long ago acts that should not result in a death sentence? Was Axl writing to the Indonesian President or trying to convince himself of something? Stay of Execution? Short one guitar player...

[draguns]

Wow! Very well written letter!

[overmatik]

I respect Axl for speaking his mind, but I live in Australia and I'm just sick of hearing about these guys and this crap about being rehabilitated.

First, is very easy to regret your actions when you have a rope around your neck, and second, is funny that nobody seems to care about the thousands of lives that are destroyed every year in Indonesia and Australia because of the shit that these leeches bring into the country.  Oh yeah, and do you know who tipped off the gang to Indonesian authorities? The Australian Federal Police...

By the way, why did Axl just plead for the lives of three people? What about the other six people?

[santiago-gnr]

@axlrose
1. It's deeply troubling President Widodo ignoring International outcry went thru w/8 of the executions.

@axlrose
2. Let's pray Miss Veloso's reprieve is permanent.

@axlrose
3. Widodo's refusal 2 postpone the executions until all legal challenges n' investigations of corruption r resolved is inexcusable.

@axlrose
4. 4 Widodo 2 b out of the country during his big statement refusing 2 take calls or read any last minute pleas 4 the condemned is cowardice

@axlrose
5. The People of Indonesia deserve better.

[EmilyGNR]

This issue has touched a lot of our aussie and the worlds hearts.

A tragic and draconian display of justice. An inability to recognise change and remorse at it's deepest sincerity, is in its own way a devasting reality of a cruel , out of touch and injust legal system.To torture with the unknown for over a decade shows such a lack of integrity and respect to humanity. A prolonged and ghastly treatment of the families and abating a false sense of hope, is as undignified and calamitous as the crime committed over a decade ago.

Axl's letter was well written and very heartfelt.

Great post, summation and insights.

There is no discernable evidence that executing drug traffickers results in any lessening of the frequency this happens, the people involved are replaced quickly by others.

These people were fully reformed as well and were contributing to the lives of others, a real injustice done here.

[jarmo]

By the way, why did Axl just plead for the lives of three people? What about the other six people?

Maybe he studied all the cases and these three were the ones where he believed the penalty was not justified.



Also on Billboard:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6546294/axl-rose-letter-pardon-andrew-chan-myuran-sukumaran-indonesia



/jarmo