Stay of Execution?

[evander1129]

If this is the name of new album and Ron is gone and Nighttrain is pushing to get new members.  Seems like wheels are turning and the title may suggest a reunion of the old band?  All speculation but Stay of Execution would make sense if they do decide to make a reunion tour.
I love the new band but who wouldn't want the original back if at all possible.

[Sosso]

Sounds like CD II for me.


I don't wanna have a reunion w/ Slash. Just one with the 2002 line-up

[evander1129]

As long as we get new music I don't care either. Been too long since we have heard new music.

[rebelhipi]

I love the new band but who wouldn't want the original back if at all possible.

I wouldn't want to see my favorite band sellout. Plus the current band is much better than old band in my opinion.

[Gavgnr]

Is this the copyright thing that Axl has registered?

I've read that it would be unlikely (impossible?) to trademark a future album name so, if anything, might be for a tour or new project.

Who knows....just hope something comes of it!! 

[hunter80]

Cool name for a new album

[draguns]

I would love to see the originals back together, but it won't happen. I disagree with rebel. The original had great music. CD was solid, but not as great as the originals nor the UYI lineup. With that being said, I really do like DJ and Fortus in this lineup. Stinson is good as well.

As  far  "Stay of Execution", I think it's a great title!

[kyrie]

This is just a theory, however...

Remember when The Offspring decided to get some easy press by claiming they were going to call their new album "Chinese Democracy... You Snooze, You Lose" or something? And I think at least one band (unknown band) put out a disc actually called Chinese Democracy.

Well, by registering "Stay of Execution" for a future tour / merch (since you can't trademark album names), could this be a preventative step in securing the album title? Sort of a back door way to sneak in a claim on the phrase?

That or it's a side project... I know people are speculating about another Vegas run or something but "Appetite for Democracy" doesn't show up there either so that would be odd.

[Spirit]

Well, by registering "Stay of Execution" for a future tour / merch (since you can't trademark album names), could this be a preventative step in securing the album title? Sort of a back door way to sneak in a claim on the phrase?

The thing is, it still won't prevent other bands naming their album "Stay of Execution" since the album title isn't protected. It will probably make artists hesitant to name their album that though, because they might experience restrictions on how their tour and merch will look and be named. I guess that's what you meant. 

The trademark claim of Axl doesn't include a category of use for merchandise, so that's waging against him wanting to use the phrase on t-shirts. He can of course put in a new claim I guess, not sure how that works. Maybe you can expand the intent of use once you get the phrase itself.


For now, it's certainly a mystery.. 

[GnR-NOW]

Could it be the name of their next residency perhaps?

[GeorgeSteele]

Dumb speculation on my part, but the thought passed through so fuck it I'm throwing it out there... if Axl reunited the old guys, wouldn't the advantage of forming a band under a new name be that the label would have no rights to their recordings and so they can then release music independently?  Also, how better to prove that a reunion would not be about money, brands, etc., but only about the music.

[rebelhipi]

This is just a theory, however...

Remember when The Offspring decided to get some easy press by claiming they were going to call their new album "Chinese Democracy... You Snooze, You Lose" or something? And I think at least one band (unknown band) put out a disc actually called Chinese Democracy.

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/the_dogshit_boys/chinese_democracy/

A band called The Dogshit Boys...

[italian queen]

 if Axl reunited the old guys,

I see it hard!

[HBK]

Comming Soon

[GNR2014]

Any day now, I imagine.
Axl rose was interviewed last April (one year ago) and he said they were looking very seriously at releasing Chinese Democracy 2 and the remix album.

[D-GenerationX]

I have to sort of chuckle at this notion that this could be a side project.

Axl can't even get it together for his primary project.  How the hell would he have a side project?

[Ginger King]

I have to sort of chuckle at this notion that this could be a side project.

Axl can't even get it together for his primary project.  How the hell would he have a side project?

Agree.  It puts a real strain on believability to think that Axl (now, in 2015) wants to start a side project.  His whole career has been the continuation and evolution of Guns, and everybody (literally, everybody) else, past or present, has their own side project(s). 

Whether it?s the name of the next tour/residency/album/song who knows?but logicially it has to be connected to Guns.  I think the phrase is kind of cool, btw, and has several layers of meaning as applied to Axl and GnR.

[D-GenerationX]

I choose to think proactively and assume this has to do with a future GNR project.

Of something new, not a repacked celebration of something from 25 years ago.

[snead hearn]

"Stay of Execution" is trademarked, and Axl is the name of the trademark holder, going by what's on the US Patent and Trademark site. This is NOT a copyright file, and completely separate from the US Copyright office.

So, it's a mark of trade. Meaning it's to be a product. And, loosely put, filing for a trademark will have to be within certain categories of 'goods and services'. Thus, the ones that are listed on the trademark page for Stay of Execution. There's other goods and services, but nothing seems to go broadly for this, or there might even be a different holder to "Stay of...." in other categories.

Now, as for the copyright side to this: there's no cohesive filing - YET - listed on the US Copyright site. Nor does there seem to be - YET - a release that would garner coverage of a copyright. (both "YET"'s said without any knowledge or relation in, to, around, or even on the other side of town, or hell and high water to the GNR / Axl camp).

Back to trademark: one must continually exploit their mark of trade so that it does not lapse (aka when you see "DEAD" on the USPTO site). By my eyes, it's still early on, and the filing is quite new, so there does not necessarily have to be an immediate release to go alongside the filing.

Lastly, I'm just reading this as interesting. Axl seems to be formally planting a flag with something. You don't go through and file something unless there's intent. Now, anything after that remains to be seen. But, wine glass is certainly half full here folks!

S
(hey-can we get an emoji with a powdered wig and gavel?  )

[JAEBALL]

I'm so curious as to what the reaction would be from people if this is indeed a new project for Axl...pushing touring under the GNR banner to the side..

I think it would be awesome..a fresh start with some hopefully awesome songs.

If it's the name of the next GNR record... thats great too... fingers crossed.