Brain interview (Feb 2015) on the I'd Hit That podcast

[JAEBALL]

Irving Azoff secured the Best Buy deal right?

[Spirit]

Good thoughts here... I agree with all of this. But if he releases another album of all Bucket and Robin songs.. he is still going to have that dilemma in the future in terms of promoting it.

"So... Dj or player X who just joined.. tell us how you created that Riff? "

I can see that. It could maybe be worked around by mixing both old and new songs on the album, or release two albums either at the same time or with little time in-between. Or, release the remaining Chinese sessions as part of a Chinese Democracy special edition re-release.

If it's gonna be THE next album, stand-alone, with all Bucket and Robin material, I can see the same challenges arise when it comes to promotion. To be clear, as a hardcore fan I'm not that bothered by it. I will be super happy if the next album is from the Chinese era, but I can see some challenges from Axl's perspective.

[D-GenerationX]

Irving Azoff secured the Best Buy deal right?

Yep.

So for all his nefarious schemes, dastardly plans, and hidden agendas, he also secured the release of an album that looked like it was going to take an straight up Act Of Congress to get done.

That's worth something.

[JAEBALL]

Good thoughts here... I agree with all of this. But if he releases another album of all Bucket and Robin songs.. he is still going to have that dilemma in the future in terms of promoting it.

"So... Dj or player X who just joined.. tell us how you created that Riff? "

I can see that. It could maybe be worked around by mixing both old and new songs on the album, or release two albums either at the same time or with little time in-between. Or, release the remaining Chinese sessions as part of a Chinese Democracy special edition re-release.

If it's gonna be THE next album, stand-alone, with all Bucket and Robin material, I can see the same challenges arise when it comes to promotion. To be clear, as a hardcore fan I'm not that bothered by it. I will be super happy if the next album is from the Chinese era, but I can see some challenges from Axl's perspective.

Yeah I am in the same boat. Don;t care who wrote or recorded the songs on the next album... not anymore.

As far as the challenges to promotion... I don't really care if Axl promotes the next record anymore either. So if that is a challenge... so be it!

[D-GenerationX]

If it's gonna be THE next album, stand-alone, with all Bucket and Robin material, I can see the same challenges arise when it comes to promotion. To be clear, as a hardcore fan I'm not that bothered by it. I will be super happy if the next album is from the Chinese era, but I can see some challenges from Axl's perspective.

Agreed, but do you really think that breaks his heart?

[JAEBALL]

Irving Azoff secured the Best Buy deal right?

Yep.

So for all his nefarious schemes, dastardly plans, and hidden agendas, he also secured the release of an album that looked like it was going to take an straight up Act Of Congress to get done.

That's worth something.

To me... yes... who knows when it would come out if not for a deal like that.

But... He screwed with Axl and had ulterior motives... so he's a bad guy.... I get it.

[Spirit]

If it's gonna be THE next album, stand-alone, with all Bucket and Robin material, I can see the same challenges arise when it comes to promotion. To be clear, as a hardcore fan I'm not that bothered by it. I will be super happy if the next album is from the Chinese era, but I can see some challenges from Axl's perspective.

Agreed, but do you really think that breaks his heart?

Not that much really. More so with Chinese in 2008 I think, it was his comeback album, created by a group of people that he felt could make his vision come to life.

Another aspect is Richard.. He was partly brought in because he could write, and going by what people have said in past interviews we'll hear a lot more of Richard on the next album.

[Sosso]

But Fortus, Thal and Ferrer are not credited as songwriters on a single song. For me this is another sign that CD (and the other 22 unreleased songs Tommy was talking about) has already been finished in 1999-2000.

[Spirit]

But Fortus, Thal and Ferrer are not credited as songwriters on a single song. For me this is another sign that CD has already been finished in 1999-2000.

Not 1999-2000. Both Brain and Bucket have writing credits. There might have been an album ready, but not necessarily with the same track list of the finished product from 2008.

But I was talking about the next album, not CD. Richard is said to have more writing credits on the next one.

[GeorgeSteele]

But Fortus, Thal and Ferrer are not credited as songwriters on a single song. For me this is another sign that CD has already been finished in 1999-2000.

Not 1999-2000. Both Brain and Bucket have writing credits. There might have been an album ready, but not necessarily with the same track list of the finished product from 2008.

But I was talking about the next album, not CD. Richard is said to have more writing credits on the next one.

Also, 'songwriting' credit is very narrow.  That is lyrics/melody only.  Richard, DJ and the rest may very well compose most of the rhythm parts, solos, etc. on the next album but still may not get any songwriting credits. 

[Spirit]

But Fortus, Thal and Ferrer are not credited as songwriters on a single song. For me this is another sign that CD has already been finished in 1999-2000.

Not 1999-2000. Both Brain and Bucket have writing credits. There might have been an album ready, but not necessarily with the same track list of the finished product from 2008.

But I was talking about the next album, not CD. Richard is said to have more writing credits on the next one.

Also, 'songwriting' credit is very narrow.  That is lyrics/melody only.  Richard, DJ and the rest may very well compose most of the rhythm parts, solos, etc. on the next album but still may not get any songwriting credits. 

Yes, every person is responsible for his own instrument, so basically you come up with your own parts within the framework of the writer's melody.

[TheBaconman]

So I have a general question, that this thread has brought up for me

In regards to, staying late at venues?.

So I have see/heard guns used to come on stage a little late and venues would be worried about paying workers overtime costs and union fines etc...   Which I understand

However, once the show is done guns and Axl are known for staying at these venues till well into the early hours of the morning.  An example of this would in Miaimi when Eddie trunk got that Axl interview at 5 am in the concert venue

So the questions are

Why is everyone so upset about these fines and overtime costs, when the band will be there till 7 am regardless

And who with the venue is still there with the band?  Is there some old janitor just hanging out with a big set of keys waiting for the boys to leave so he can lock the door?

[EmilyGNR]

But Fortus, Thal and Ferrer are not credited as songwriters on a single song. For me this is another sign that CD (and the other 22 unreleased songs Tommy was talking about) has already been finished in 1999-2000.

Does that honestly affect your enjoyment of a song ? Very strange criteria for enjoying music.

[EmilyGNR]

So I have a general question, that this thread has brought up for me

In regards to, staying late at venues?.

So I have see/heard guns used to come on stage a little late and venues would be worried about paying workers overtime costs and union fines etc...   Which I understand

However, once the show is done guns and Axl are known for staying at these venues till well into the early hours of the morning.  An example of this would in Miaimi when Eddie trunk got that Axl interview at 5 am in the concert venue

So the questions are

Why is everyone so upset about these fines and overtime costs, when the band will be there till 7 am regardless

And who with the venue is still there with the band?  Is there some old janitor just hanging out with a big set of keys waiting for the boys to leave so he can lock the door?

Very good points, I don't have some predetermined "bedtime" and haven't for over 20 years.

I see it as simply another reason for some idiots to complain.

[D-GenerationX]

So I have a general question, that this thread has brought up for me

In regards to, staying late at venues?.

So I have see/heard guns used to come on stage a little late and venues would be worried about paying workers overtime costs and union fines etc...   Which I understand

However, once the show is done guns and Axl are known for staying at these venues till well into the early hours of the morning.  An example of this would in Miaimi when Eddie trunk got that Axl interview at 5 am in the concert venue

So the questions are

Why is everyone so upset about these fines and overtime costs, when the band will be there till 7 am regardless

And who with the venue is still there with the band?  Is there some old janitor just hanging out with a big set of keys waiting for the boys to leave so he can lock the door?

Its not just the cost.  Or even the inconvenience.

Its the obvious question why they have to make these special accomodations for one band when every other band on their level plays those same buildings every month of every year without such issues.

Put yourself in their spot.   Not a rabid Guns N' Roses fan, but just a rational human being and everyday worker.  Do they give a flying fuck how "rock n' roll" this all supposedly is?  Nope.  They just want to go home.

[TheBaconman]

So I have a general question, that this thread has brought up for me

In regards to, staying late at venues?.

So I have see/heard guns used to come on stage a little late and venues would be worried about paying workers overtime costs and union fines etc...   Which I understand

However, once the show is done guns and Axl are known for staying at these venues till well into the early hours of the morning.  An example of this would in Miaimi when Eddie trunk got that Axl interview at 5 am in the concert venue

So the questions are

Why is everyone so upset about these fines and overtime costs, when the band will be there till 7 am regardless

And who with the venue is still there with the band?  Is there some old janitor just hanging out with a big set of keys waiting for the boys to leave so he can lock the door?

Very good points, I don't have some predetermined "bedtime" and haven't for over 20 years.

I see it as simply another reason for some to complain.

I am also not a fan of people that go to a guns show and complain about the start time.

Then you here reasons for complaining like. They have to work in the morning, what about the children!, what about public transportation shutting down

Who cares really.  Some people need to get out of there own little bubble.   If you don't know that guns may come on stage a little late, you are not a fan and go crawl back under that rock you have been living under.   These are the same,people that are probably asking me to sit down cause they don't want to stand at a rock show.  Guess what I have kids. I work, you go to concert.  You figure this stuff out.   It's not hard

Rant over

Haha

[D-GenerationX]

But Fortus, Thal and Ferrer are not credited as songwriters on a single song. For me this is another sign that CD (and the other 22 unreleased songs Tommy was talking about) has already been finished in 1999-2000.

Agreed.

It doesn't affect whether I enjoy the song.  But it certainly affects how seriously I can take the guys onstage as a legit band.

CD showed me that the guys who put that album together were a pretty decent band.  But the guys who wound up playing the songs onstage?  I have no idea what they are capable of as a band.

and we don't seem terribly interested in finding out either.  Which is either quizzical or alarming, depending on your interpretation of the concept of a band.

[EmilyGNR]

So I have a general question, that this thread has brought up for me

In regards to, staying late at venues?.

So I have see/heard guns used to come on stage a little late and venues would be worried about paying workers overtime costs and union fines etc...   Which I understand

However, once the show is done guns and Axl are known for staying at these venues till well into the early hours of the morning.  An example of this would in Miaimi when Eddie trunk got that Axl interview at 5 am in the concert venue

So the questions are

Why is everyone so upset about these fines and overtime costs, when the band will be there till 7 am regardless

And who with the venue is still there with the band?  Is there some old janitor just hanging out with a big set of keys waiting for the boys to leave so he can lock the door?

Very good points, I don't have some predetermined "bedtime" and haven't for over 20 years.

I see it as simply another reason for some to complain.

I am also not a fan of people that go to a guns show and complain about the start time.

Then you here reasons for complaining like. They have to work in the morning, what about the children!, what about public transportation shutting down

Who cares really.  Some people need to get out of there own little bubble.   If you don't know that guns may come on stage a little late, you are not a fan and go crawl back under that rock you have been living under.   These are the same,people that are probably asking me to sit down cause they don't want to stand at a rock show.  Guess what I have kids. I work, you go to concert.  You figure this stuff out.   It's not hard

Rant over

Haha

Haha, I would definitely enjoy meeting up with you at a show.

Some are merely complaining to complain, it is like they have some sick fascination with the negative aspects of everything, or maybe they are simply drags in real life.

Misery may love company but it won't be mine 

[D-GenerationX]

I am also not a fan of people that go to a guns show and complain about the start time.

Then you here reasons for complaining like. They have to work in the morning, what about the children!, what about public transportation shutting down

Who cares really.  Some people need to get out of there own little bubble.   If you don't know that guns may come on stage a little late, you are not a fan and go crawl back under that rock you have been living under.   These are the same,people that are probably asking me to sit down cause they don't want to stand at a rock show.  Guess what I have kids. I work, you go to concert.  You figure this stuff out.   It's not hard

***DISCLAIMER : I did not introduce this topic.  I am simply commenting on it as a topic that came up.***

I think you are oversimplifying it more than a wee bit.  

Telling someone to sit down in front of you is the same as telling someone that to see a concert, they might have to take off work the next day?  They are the same to you?

[EmilyGNR]

I am also not a fan of people that go to a guns show and complain about the start time.

Then you here reasons for complaining like. They have to work in the morning, what about the children!, what about public transportation shutting down

Who cares really.  Some people need to get out of there own little bubble.   If you don't know that guns may come on stage a little late, you are not a fan and go crawl back under that rock you have been living under.   These are the same,people that are probably asking me to sit down cause they don't want to stand at a rock show.  Guess what I have kids. I work, you go to concert.  You figure this stuff out.   It's not hard

***DISCLAIMER : I did not introduce this topic.  I am simply commenting on it as a topic that came up.***

I think you are oversimplifying it more than a wee bit.  

Telling someone to sit down in front of you is the same as telling someone that to see a concert, they might have to take off work the next day?  They are the same to you?

***DISCLAIMER I WILL TYPE IN ASTERISKS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO MYSELF AND MY WHINING***