Tommy Stinson : "I Am Out Of The Loop"

[D-GenerationX]

http://www.wmmr.com/shows/matt-cord/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10669552

Well...that's not encouraging.

[pilferk]

Damn it! I'm stuck on my work laptop, and it won't play the interview.

GRRRRRRRR.......

[jarmo]

I'm pretty sure as soon as there's something to be in the loop about, Tommy will be.
Again, making a mountain out of a molehill...

Wonder what the reaction would have been if he had answered like Dj or Richard.



/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

Wonder what the reaction would have been if he had answered like Dj or Richard.

In a way, he did.  We already have the two of them at odds with what they say, and now we have a third guy saying he doesn't know shit about shit.

All of this adds up to a pretty dysfunctional operation with a communication process that needs some work, to put it mildly.

[jarmo]

What do you suggest they communicate to the band at this moment when nothing's going on?

The other two aren't at odds with what they say. Haha.


Besides, what's your point? Haven't you already pointed out that it doesn't matter what the others say?



/jarmo

[jazjme]

Really a new thread for this , when it was pretty much discussed,lol

[D-GenerationX]

Really a new thread for this , when it was pretty much discussed,lol

Oh, is the Tommy thing going in some other thread?  I didn't see it.

Merge this, if that's the case though.  But I did look before I posted.

[Spirit]

Tommy says it's a cyclical thing with Guns, pretty much like he expects to hear from them when there's something happening.

[JAEBALL]

I see both sides here... GNR is on hiatus... or so I have heard... So that is a great explanation for not anybody knowing anything!

but if GNR is looking at putting together the next record, as per Axl's words... shouldnt the guys in the band be a part of that process, or at least be clued in to where we are in that process?

I don't think the bass player in ANY BAND saying he is out of the loop is a good thing... nobody can convince me otherwise.

[Spirit]

Btw, I think it's ok to have this in a separate thread. It's a separate interview, so..

[JAEBALL]

Tommy says it's a cyclical thing with Guns, pretty much like he expects to hear from them when there's something happening.

Yeah... good point... BUT .. Especially with The Replacements starting to look like a full time thing... if GNR plans something on short notice (like they are known to do). It could lead to more conflicting dates for Tommy.

[D-GenerationX]

but if GNR is looking at putting together the next record, as per Axl's words... shouldnt the guys in the band be a part of that process, or at least be clued in to where we are in that process?

You'd think, yes. 

I don't think the bass player in ANY BAND saying he is out of the loop is a good thing... nobody can convince me otherwise.

Not even a little bit.

These are actually the answers I find most depressing.  When they are asked something about GNR and laugh at the question.  Laugh because they have no clue, but also laugh because they can't believe the interviewer is asking them.  Think about that.  A question about the band you are in draws laughter because you think its comical that people think you have any idea what's going on.

This is our "band" too much of the time, in my opinion.

[jarmo]

but if GNR is looking at putting together the next record, as per Axl's words... shouldnt the guys in the band be a part of that process, or at least be clued in to where we are in that process?

Once again, it depends on whether or not they need to be involved. Do you need Tommy there if his parts are done? No.


Tommy's actual quote: "And Guns, I'm not sure what's going on there. I'm kinda out of the loop a little bit. But, you know, that kinda goes into, that's the cyclical event there. "



Also, he says he knows nothing about the Replacements new album. Does that mean there's communication issues?  




/jarmo

[Spirit]

Tommy says it's a cyclical thing with Guns, pretty much like he expects to hear from them when there's something happening.

Yeah... good point... BUT .. Especially with The Replacements starting to look like a full time thing... if GNR plans something on short notice (like they are known to do). It could lead to more conflicting dates for Tommy.

I guess that's a problem the management has to deal with. We had that case last year when Duff filled in for Tommy.

But yes, there could potentially be conflicting dates. I'm not 100% on this, but I believe GNR isn't as "short notice" as they were a few years ago.

[D-GenerationX]

Also, he says he knows nothing about the Replacements new album. Does that mean there's communication issues?  

I doubt any of us care about that.

[D-GenerationX]

I guess that's a problem the management has to deal with. We had that case last year when Duff filled in for Tommy.

But yes, there could potentially be conflicting dates. I'm not 100% on this, but I believe GNR isn't as "short notice" as they were a few years ago.

But there would be "big picture" things you would be aware of.

Such as a new album coming out or a tour planned.  Even if you didn't have exact dates, you think you would be told something for you own scheduling.

[JAEBALL]

but if GNR is looking at putting together the next record, as per Axl's words... shouldnt the guys in the band be a part of that process, or at least be clued in to where we are in that process?

Once again, it depends on whether or not they need to be involved. Do you need Tommy there if his parts are done? No.


Tommy's actual quote: "And Guns, I'm not sure what's going on there. I'm kinda out of the loop a little bit. But, you know, that kinda goes into, that's the cyclical event there. "



Also, he says he knows nothing about the Replacements new album. Does that mean there's communication issues?  




/jarmo

Yes!! Especially in the Replacements where he is much closer to the top of the food chain... ha

And even if Tommy has not a note left to record... again.. shouldn't the bass player in the band at least have a clue? I would think..

[D-GenerationX]

And even if Tommy has not a note left to record... again.. shouldn't the bass player in the band at least have a clue? I would think..

Only if his input mattered. 

Anyone saying that this can be done without him (or any of the others) is telling you their input doesn't really matter to Axl.  Which, while probably essentially true, is still sort of a bummer.  Its a bummer just to hear, but a double bummer to hear some people try and spin it as positive.

[Spirit]

I guess that's a problem the management has to deal with. We had that case last year when Duff filled in for Tommy.

But yes, there could potentially be conflicting dates. I'm not 100% on this, but I believe GNR isn't as "short notice" as they were a few years ago.

But there would be "big picture" things you would be aware of.

Such as a new album coming out or a tour planned.  Even if you didn't have exact dates, you think you would be told something for you own scheduling.

Sure.

I don't know how the management operates these days and it might be that they can improve on giving the band members more tentative info to plan on.


Btw, it seems like management is flexible in regards to conflicting dates. They were lucky that Duff could fill in last year, but before that they postponed a tour because it was in conflict with some of Richard's dates.

[raindogs70]

The Replacements reformed because Paul Westerberg decided it was time and Tommy's been trying to get him to do it for a long time. It could also come to an end at any time. It's only an issue if Tommy gets the call from GnR management to get together and he's in the middle of working on Replacements material.

He still has his own band if GnR's in limbo and Paul doesn't want to bother with new music, but Tommy's also worked on Paul's solo projects over the years, same as Duff has with Izzy.

Bands have put albums out and didn't do a tour to support the album.