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Maybe he considers it a scam because it was presented as a new super group when in reality it was a one off he did.
I'm assuming he didn't sign up to join a band, he signed up to record with people he doesn't know and made some video(s) for the song(s).
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Quote from: jarmo on April 23, 2015, 08:53:56 AM
Maybe he considers it a scam because it was presented as a new super group when in reality it was a one off he did.
I'm assuming he didn't sign up to join a band, he signed up to record with people he doesn't know and made some video(s) for the song(s).
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I am in lock step with you that the way they presented it with that press release was straight up absurd...Which obviously is put together by a PR type.
However that has nothing to do with Scott who gladly did the work and even appeared in a music video ... did he think it was for those guys private collection and wouldn't be released?
I don't see how those guys are in the wrong in any way here. Scott's comments are not really fair.
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The only scam here is that they actually plan on charging people money for this music. Dreadful. A five minute plus song that could have really been in the 3-4 range. It's 2015, unleashing a five minute plus single is probably not the way to draw people in. I of course am a fan of both Ron and Scott so I wanted to like it. I am only basing this off of that one song, I might like the rest of the album, I'll give it a listen.
Scott is in the wrong here though. If he just sent vocals like he said he would be right with calling this a scam. But if you do vocals for a record, press photos, and shoot a music video?
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Quote from: Bodhi on April 24, 2015, 10:13:32 AM
The only scam here is that they actually plan on charging people money for this music. Dreadful. A five minute plus song that could have really been in the 3-4 range. It's 2015, unleashing a five minute plus single is probably not the way to draw people in. I of course am a fan of both Ron and Scott so I wanted to like it. I am only basing this off of that one song, I might like the rest of the album, I'll give it a listen.
Scott is in the wrong here though. If he just sent vocals like he said he would be right with calling this a scam. But if you do vocals for a record, press photos, and shoot a music video?
Exactly how I feel on the last part.
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Quote from: Bodhi on April 24, 2015, 10:13:32 AM
Scott is in the wrong here though. If he just sent vocals like he said he would be right with calling this a scam. But if you do vocals for a record, press photos, and shoot a music video?
Yeah, but if he did his parts and that's it. But then it's marketed as an active new super group, then he has a point...
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Quote from: jarmo on April 24, 2015, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: Bodhi on April 24, 2015, 10:13:32 AM
Scott is in the wrong here though. If he just sent vocals like he said he would be right with calling this a scam. But if you do vocals for a record, press photos, and shoot a music video?
Yeah, but if he did his parts and that's it. But then it's marketed as an active new super group, then he has a point...
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Agreed. It sounds like he is/was the equivalent of a sessions musician in this instance.
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He had something different in mind when he recorded vocals for the album. At least he should have ask the other guys in the band about promotion, press release, etc. Things could have been alot easier. But maybe it was just the lack of communication bewtween him and the rest of the band.
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Quote from: jarmo on April 24, 2015, 12:41:55 PM
Quote from: Bodhi on April 24, 2015, 10:13:32 AM
Scott is in the wrong here though. If he just sent vocals like he said he would be right with calling this a scam. But if you do vocals for a record, press photos, and shoot a music video?
Yeah, but if he did his parts and that's it. But then it's marketed as an active new super group, then he has a point...
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I agree to, if the story he gives is true, which I am not sure it is. The only thing I question is the fact that he acts like he never met anyone in the group and all he did was send them vocals. The promo photo shoot and music video kind of destroys his version of not knowing what their names were. It is not uncommon for singers to send vocals to a project without ever meeting them. I remember Hayley Williams from Paramore sang on that "Airplanes" song for B.O.B and was in a video with him and actually never met him until after the video came out, so it does happen. I just think Scotts version might be a little off. Scott himself is usually all over the place, so it could be an honest miscommunication. Then again this little debacle has gotten some press for this record, so maybe that was the point all along.
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Maybe the people involved had different ideas of what it was supposed to be?
Scott did it for the money, not as his main gig.
The two brothers who paid the bills probably wanted something else out of it.
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On a side note here, I have seen a video from a Scott's gig last night and it made me very worried. He's clearly high out of his mind, man. His friends must reach out to him because if they don't I really fear what is going to happen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQ_eq6NXFY
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Quote from: overmatik on April 30, 2015, 12:55:51 AM
On a side note here, I have seen a video from a Scott's gig last night and it made me very worried. He's clearly high out of his mind, man. His friends must reach out to him because if they don't I really fear what is going to happen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQ_eq6NXFY
Oh man, he looks like he?s feeling pretty nice here.
Tough performance, no question. It?s a shame that when he puts on a great show, they seem to be ignored, but every misstep lights up the internet.
I guess that?s the media in general. Hopefully he just pre-gamed a wee too hard!
This is pretty tough to watch, though.
Gotta be a tough situation hitting the road to promote a new album that your best friend helped create, less than a month after his passing,
but I guess they probably don?t want to sit and stew at home.
I?m catching Weiland next week in Manchester, NH. Hopefully the guy can reel it back in. He seemed to be on a nice roll the past year or so.
Hopefully this is a bump in the road.
On the plus side, the new guitarist seems to have transitioned nicely.
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Someone needs to get him some help.
Scott Weiland Interview - Carolina Rebellion - 99.5 The X
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It's tough to watch.
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Quote from: LongGoneDay on April 30, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: overmatik on April 30, 2015, 12:55:51 AM
Oh man, he looks like he?s feeling pretty nice here.
Tough performance, no question.
It?s a shame that when he puts on a great show, they seem to be ignored, but every misstep lights up the internet
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I guess that?s the media in general.
It's because he's supposed to put on a great show. People pay money to watch him perform, not to stagger around like an asshole. Don't blame the media for this one.
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Sure, they are all supposed to. Doesn?t mean it happens.
For all the heat Scott takes in the press, you?d think he were guilty of committing war crimes.
I?ve seen everybody breathing today that?s worth seeing, and Scott is the real deal.
I?ve said it a thousand times, but Scott & Axl are rocks last great frontmen, and they will both be sorely missed when they are gone, because I don?t see anyone waiting in the wings.
People seem to blur the lines of his business and personal life.
I get a kick out of all the hate he gets from his fans for possibly being drunk at his shows.
This coming from the mouths of drunken fans no less.
Yea, no shit he?s drunk. So are you! So am I!
The one difference being that he?s a fucking rock star!
This isn?t some new epidemic.
Do you think he was doing yoga and drinking vitamin waters before each show on the Core tour?
If I had to get up in front of the idiots at the shows I attend, I?d be a lot more than drunk(which he may very well be).
Hell I gotta get drunk just to stand among them.
Call me old fashion, but I?ll take a wild card with my rock n? roll.
People seem to think Scott?s the exception, but he was the rule when rock was worth a damn.
It?s a sad day when someone like Dave Grohl is considered a rock star.
He seems like a really nice, cool guy, but that's fucking boring.
Give me an asshole like Axl or Scott 8 days a week.
This longwinded rant isn?t really directed at you by the way.
You just happened to be in the line of fire and I had some time to kill.
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From an interview with Ron:
Scott Weiland recently went public saying that ?it was a scam from the beginning.? Do you have any comment?
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: First I gotta say, Scott did an amazing job on the record, we all feel the vocals he laid down are some of the best he?s ever done. We?re thrilled and proud of the collaborative effort that went into the making of this record. The public response has been great. We?re very happy with the whole album. As for Scott?s statement, we need to address if, or why, he made it. It was just a quote from a recent interview and we?re trying to verify that he actually did make that statement. Scott deserves the respect to publicly clarify whether he actually said that. All the members of AOA feel he should have that opportunity.
With Weiland?s departure, do you see yourselves getting a new singer and touring to support this album?
Wouldn?t call it a departure as of yet. Art of Anarchy hasn?t received any official written communication that Weiland is no longer the lead singer of Art of Anarchy. There are certain legal steps you?d need to take in order to officially leave a band. We?ve been offered great touring opportunities with Scott on board even before the record?s been released. Aside from Scott, all the band members are on board for getting on stage with this. As for with who? Stay tuned?
If Weiland ever came back and apologized asking to re-join the band, would you let him back in?
He?s still technically in the band, and that all needs to be addressed. We?re keeping every option and door open.
If you could pick any vocalist in the world to replace him, who do you think would be the ideal fit and why?
Corey Taylor, M. Shadows, Josh Todd, and Danny Worsnop would be topping the wish list. They?re guys we all feel shine bright in any musical situation. That?s what?s great about Scott, he sounds amazing doing any genre of music. Availability would probably be the biggest hurdle with anyone that?s already out there doin? it.
http://www.revolvermag.com/news/interview-bumblefoot-talks-art-of-anarchy-scott-weiland-and-top-guitarists.html
May 21, 2015
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Picked up the album Tuesday.
Listened a couple times. It?s not really sticking.
I think Get on Down is a pretty solid tune.
I can see myself coming back to that one.
Cool to hear Scott singing to heavy material again and his voice and melodies are strong throughout, but so far it?s not resonating with me like Blaster.
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I've listened to it three times now. The production is top notch, just another galaxy from the very poor "production" done on Blaster. His voice is the best since Contraband and his melodies make all the songs better, eve the bad ones.
Just to show that talent is talent, no matter how much a person tries to undermine himself and to jeopardise it, talent always shows its face.
On one hand I'd really like to see this band live, but if Scott can't be at the top of his game it will just be another blow to his legacy.
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Yep I agree , Weiland has a knack for easy catchy melodies , I think it's a really good , fun album , such a shame he's a mess and let's himself and his bands down , he should be respected like Vedder , Cornell etc but he's more of a joke cos of his live performance . Very talented I think
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Now i gave it two listens. Its allright. Not my cup of tea really, but that has more to do with the metal style. I dont like the production, it has a really commercial metal sound.
Theres no bad songs, but nothing has really struck me either, Death Of It is pretty cool.
For me Weiland is the star of the album. I could imagine me really not liking the album with a another singer. Every song has great vocal melodies.
I could imagine this album having good success with the mainstream metal style. And for that style this is a great album.
Bumblefoots contribution is not that obvious, some great solos, he dosent sing, no crazy guitar stuff.
I prefer by far Blaster (that has good production i think) and Little Brother Is Watching.
Second listen was better than the first one so im sure that it will grow on me more.
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