Dizzy Reed Reveals Details Of New GNR Album (from Triple M Sydney)

[jarmo]

And I don't rule anything out.

Well, yeah, the "hey, you never know" argument is always out there for any topic.  I just don't know how seriously you have to take it.

And how many things can you accurately predict for the future? I mean, early 2008, were you predicting a year end release? Early 2014, did you predict Duff being back? A few hours before the La Paz show, did you predict You Could Be Mine as th opening song?


I've been surprised more than once by something GN'R did.


/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

And I don't rule anything out.

Well, yeah, the "hey, you never know" argument is always out there for any topic.  I just don't know how seriously you have to take it.

And how many things can you accurately predict for the future? I mean, early 2008, were you predicting a year end release? Early 2014, did you predict Duff being back? A few hours before the La Paz show, did you predict You Could Be Mine as th opening song?


I've been surprised more than once by something GN'R did.


/jarmo

LOL.... no i did not expect you could be mine to be the opener that night........

[ice cream sand pig]

Considering Chinese Democracy is basically in two parts, it makes sense to release the second half before starting the next album from scratch....



/jarmo

So is Axl still saying this will be the second half of CD? I wasn't aware that was still the case, but I'm very happy to hear that my favorite album of all time is actually only half of an album and that it looks like I may be getting the next half soon.

 I wonder in what ways it will be "the other half"? In terms of style? Or will certain songs correspond to other songs? CD seemed so complete, prostitute was the perfect ending. How do you continue that story? Does this mean I need to play CD 1 and then CD2 in one sitting to get the whole experience? That would be pretty awesome! It would almost be the length of a whole movie. Something tells me I am in for some really epic shit!

[D-GenerationX]

And how many things can you accurately predict for the future? I mean, early 2008, were you predicting a year end release? Early 2014, did you predict Duff being back? A few hours before the La Paz show, did you predict You Could Be Mine as th opening song?

That's more minutiae.  I am talking bigger picture things.

[EmilyGNR]

In my opinion... this is such a crucial time for the future of Guns N Roses...I hope it goes the way we want...

As long and as painful as the process was ... we all KNEW eventually there would be a record... there had to be... otherwise what was really the point....

But now... Axl isn't necessarily required in a way to deliver anything or put out this earth shattering record to prove to everybody he doesn't need X and Y to be Guns n Roses. At this point Axl could really decide nahhhhhhh I don't need to to put this out... I dont think it will happen...but would it shock you if it did?

Couple that with that we all suspect there are more lineup changes coming if there is a new tour next year...

What would Guns N Roses be in 2015/16 without a record and more lineup changes...

Here's a big problem, and I quote

"..I hope it goes the way we want..."

Flawed thinking there, I hope it goes GNRs way whatever way benefits the band the most.

[JAEBALL]

In my opinion... this is such a crucial time for the future of Guns N Roses...I hope it goes the way we want...

As long and as painful as the process was ... we all KNEW eventually there would be a record... there had to be... otherwise what was really the point....

But now... Axl isn't necessarily required in a way to deliver anything or put out this earth shattering record to prove to everybody he doesn't need X and Y to be Guns n Roses. At this point Axl could really decide nahhhhhhh I don't need to to put this out... I dont think it will happen...but would it shock you if it did?

Couple that with that we all suspect there are more lineup changes coming if there is a new tour next year...

What would Guns N Roses be in 2015/16 without a record and more lineup changes...

Here's a big problem, and I quote

"..I hope it goes the way we want..."

Flawed thinking there, I hope it goes GNRs way whatever way benefits the band the most.

How noble of you...

[D-GenerationX]

So is Axl still saying this will be the second half of CD? I wasn't aware that was still the case, but I'm very happy to hear that my favorite album of all time is actually only half of an album and that it looks like I may be getting the next half soon.

 I wonder in what ways it will be "the other half"? In terms of style? Or will certain songs correspond to other songs? CD seemed so complete, prostitute was the perfect ending. How do you continue that story? Does this mean I need to play CD 1 and then CD2 in one sitting to get the whole experience? That would be pretty awesome! It would almost be the length of a whole movie. Something tells me I am in for some really epic shit!

I think its more that he said they recorded enough to fill 2 full albums.

They allegedly have even more than that.  But, logically, not everything can be a gem and I'm sure some cuts will be made.

I suspect the 2 albums will be what Axl considers the strongest work from the batch of stuff they did from 1999-2002 or whenever that end date was.

[D-GenerationX]

Here's a big problem, and I quote

"..I hope it goes the way we want..."

Flawed thinking there, I hope it goes GNRs way whatever way benefits the band the most.

I'm pretty sure we all want that.

All the supposed gripes, at their base, were rooted in opinions that the way certain things were done did not maximize value for the band.

[EmilyGNR]

In my opinion... this is such a crucial time for the future of Guns N Roses...I hope it goes the way we want...

As long and as painful as the process was ... we all KNEW eventually there would be a record... there had to be... otherwise what was really the point....

But now... Axl isn't necessarily required in a way to deliver anything or put out this earth shattering record to prove to everybody he doesn't need X and Y to be Guns n Roses. At this point Axl could really decide nahhhhhhh I don't need to to put this out... I dont think it will happen...but would it shock you if it did?

Couple that with that we all suspect there are more lineup changes coming if there is a new tour next year...

What would Guns N Roses be in 2015/16 without a record and more lineup changes...

Here's a big problem, and I quote

"..I hope it goes the way we want..."

Flawed thinking there, I hope it goes GNRs way whatever way benefits the band the most.

How noble of you...

Reveals a lot about your mindset, it is not "noble" at all, simply realistic.

[EmilyGNR]

Here's a big problem, and I quote

"..I hope it goes the way we want..."

Flawed thinking there, I hope it goes GNRs way whatever way benefits the band the most.

I'm pretty sure we all want that.

All the supposed gripes, at their base, were rooted in opinions that the way certain things were done did not maximize value for the band.

Rooted in opinions is right. All the gripes from people were based on that from their armchair quarterback positions, they thought they could call the plays better. Others were merely upset that the band didn't do things to suit them.

Both ridiculous premises.

[mortismurphy]

The process is all messed up. He puts out Chinese 2, say, next year. That will consist of songs written 1999-2002, songs which are over twelve years old. That still means the band will not have written or worked on anything original in twelve or so years. That still means that Ron, DJ and Frank are not going to get songwriting credits. Even if they began writing now, you are probably not going to see those tracks until 2025. Now one of the problems with Chinese was it sounded dated the day it was released, it sounded like a late 90s album. So the music is never going to reflect the year it is released, never reflect Axl's songwriting as it is now.

[D-GenerationX]

Rooted in opinions is right. All the gripes from people were based on that from their armchair quarterback positions, they thought they could call the plays better. Others were merely upset that the band didn't do things to suit them.

Both ridiculous premises.

I agree.  Which makes it a good thing no one has ever put them forth. 

The only time those premises have ever been introduced are by "loyal fans" who felt the need to crush dissent.  So they project, and put a bunch of words in the mouths of the people saying thing they didn't like, and then just pretended it all was real.  That it all really happened.

All any of us want is to see the bad succeed as much as they can.  Knocking down various strawmen is just what we do in the interim.

[norway]

What, u judge an unreleased album D?

[D-GenerationX]

The process is all messed up. He puts out Chinese 2, say, next year. That will consist of songs written 1999-2002, songs which are over twelve years old. That still means the band will not have written or worked on anything original in twelve or so years. That still means that Ron, DJ and Frank are not going to get songwriting credits. Even if they began writing now, you are probably not going to see those tracks until 2025. Now one of the problems with Chinese was it sounded dated the day it was released, it sounded like a late 90s album. So the music is never going to reflect the year it is released, never reflect Axl's songwriting as it is now.

All true.

But, at least as I see it, that ship has sailed.  I wish he'd have done it differently too.  But now I'm just taking what I can get.

[norway]

Waiting for 'the album with Axl, Ron and Bumble' starts now.

 

[D-GenerationX]

What, u judge an unreleased album D?

Oh, no.

But "the band should listen to me, because I know all" and/or "I will only be happy if things are done my way" are not things that have been said, by anyone, ever.

[D-GenerationX]

Waiting for 'the album with Axl, Ron and Bumble' starts now.

Hahahaha.  Might as well wait for the tooth fairy.

The rest of the CD sessions is the only realistic thing you can expect.

[mortismurphy]

What, u judge an unreleased album D?

No. But is this album going to consist of songs written after 2002? Presumably not if it says 'Chinese Democracy 2' on it.

[D-GenerationX]

No. But is this album going to consist of songs written after 2002? Presumably not if it says 'Chinese Democracy 2' on it.

Regardless of it title, that's what we are getting.  Songs recorded many moons ago, some with people long gone.

And that's fine.  I've long come to terms with that quizzical business plan.

[mortismurphy]

The only way they could sort out the mess is if (and we truly are dealing with 'ifs' here) they put out a boxset as a sort of house clearance and tour off that for only a short burst, then begin anew.