Dizzy Reed Reveals Details Of New GNR Album (from Triple M Sydney)

[jarmo]

'Street Of Dreams', 'if The World' 'There Was A Time', 'Cather In The Rye', 'I.R.S.', for instance.  These would not be totally out of place on the UYI albums.

But tunes like 'Shacker's Revenge', 'Scraped', 'Rhiad & The Bedouins', 'Prostitute'...a bridge too far for some.

Now compare UYI to AFD. You could say a similar thing.... Typical GN'R in other words.





/jarmo

[Spirit]

For the record, I'm a big fan of Chinese, but I can see where some fans are coming from. Chinese was quite different from previous GNR music in some aspects, even though I think it's still recognizable as GNR.

Some tunes, sure.

'Street Of Dreams', 'if The World' 'There Was A Time', 'Cather In The Rye', 'I.R.S.', for instance.  These would not be totally out of place on the UYI albums.

But tunes like 'Shacker's Revenge', 'Scraped', 'Rhiad & The Bedouins', 'Prostitute'...a bridge too far for some.

Are you talking about the songs as a whole or just parts of them? If I listen to the verses of the last four songs you mentioned, it's pretty straight forward rock music albeit there's some more electronic elements. The guitars are very much front and center. I agree there's a total different guitar sound if that's what you were thinking.

[D-GenerationX]

'Street Of Dreams', 'if The World' 'There Was A Time', 'Cather In The Rye', 'I.R.S.', for instance.  These would not be totally out of place on the UYI albums.

But tunes like 'Shacker's Revenge', 'Scraped', 'Rhiad & The Bedouins', 'Prostitute'...a bridge too far for some.

Now compare UYI to AFD. You could say a similar thing.... Typical GN'R in other words.

Much starker contrast.  Be serious.

You can't help but go down that road, can you?  The "same as it ever was" insistence.

[D-GenerationX]

For the record, I'm a big fan of Chinese, but I can see where some fans are coming from. Chinese was quite different from previous GNR music in some aspects, even though I think it's still recognizable as GNR.

Some tunes, sure.

'Street Of Dreams', 'if The World' 'There Was A Time', 'Cather In The Rye', 'I.R.S.', for instance.  These would not be totally out of place on the UYI albums.

But tunes like 'Shacker's Revenge', 'Scraped', 'Rhiad & The Bedouins', 'Prostitute'...a bridge too far for some.

Are you talking about the songs as a whole or just parts of them? If I listen to the verses of the last four songs you mentioned, it's pretty straight forward rock music albeit there's some more electronic elements. The guitars are very much front and center. I agree there's a total different guitar sound if that's what you were thinking.

I think the best way to put it is that I could see Slash on any tune in the first batch.

That second batch, he's going to have no interest in any of that.

[DeN]

these more modern tracks, except TWAT and TIL, are my fav on the LP. I still don't understand why Shackler wasn't the first single.

so I hope the same evolution for the next LP. I want to be surprised, as always with Axl's work.

[jarmo]

Much starker contrast.  Be serious.

You can't help but go down that road, can you?  The "same as it ever was" insistence.

Because to me all albums are a natural evolving thing from the past album.

I think the best way to put it is that I could see Slash on any tune in the first batch.

That second batch, he's going to have no interest in any of that.

Unless the Black Eyed Peas were somehow involved.  



/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

these more modern tracks, except TWAT and TIL, are my fav on the LP. I still don't understand why Shackler wasn't the first single.

so I hope the same evolution for the next LP. I want to be surprised, as always with Axl's work.

I think 'Shacker's Revenge' is way catchy.

[jarmo]

these more modern tracks, except TWAT and TIL, are my fav on the LP. I still don't understand why Shackler wasn't the first single.

so I hope the same evolution for the next LP. I want to be surprised, as always with Axl's work.

I think 'Shacker's Revenge' is way catchy.

Sure and if anybody saw the song performed live, they know it as well.

But then again, some of those people who don't like it never went, because "it's not GN'R"... 



/jarmo

[Spirit]

For the record, I'm a big fan of Chinese, but I can see where some fans are coming from. Chinese was quite different from previous GNR music in some aspects, even though I think it's still recognizable as GNR.

Some tunes, sure.

'Street Of Dreams', 'if The World' 'There Was A Time', 'Cather In The Rye', 'I.R.S.', for instance.  These would not be totally out of place on the UYI albums.

But tunes like 'Shacker's Revenge', 'Scraped', 'Rhiad & The Bedouins', 'Prostitute'...a bridge too far for some.

Are you talking about the songs as a whole or just parts of them? If I listen to the verses of the last four songs you mentioned, it's pretty straight forward rock music albeit there's some more electronic elements. The guitars are very much front and center. I agree there's a total different guitar sound if that's what you were thinking.

I think the best way to put it is that I could see Slash on any tune in the first batch.

That second batch, he's going to have no interest in any of that.

Is it the quality of the song itself? If so, that's fair.

As for if Slash would have worked on the material. I think he would have, there's a lot of ways to approach a song. Here's a couple of stripped down versions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=walgedu-DZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN7reZTaA1o


Personally I think Prostitute is a damn good song. Listening to the first link, I think that GNR should have gone for a stripped down version, it would have been their best acoustic song ever.

[faldor]

All the fans who keep posting that GN'R needs to release something new, I wonder if they didn't enjoy Chinese all that much, how they'll enjoy something that sounds somewhat similar. The same kind of departure from the classic rock sound that Chinese Democracy is....

I don't get that vibe at all.

The only people interested in a further release obviously liked the last one.  If you hated CD, I don't see how you'd give a damn if they ever released anything else.

Not necessarily true.  I've heard people say that they "hated" CD but still hold out hope that the next album could be something that appeals to them because they've obviously loved Axl's work in the past. 

I get the hope, but I doubt it'll be fulfilled.  I'm also not sure how genuine that hope really is.  It's tough to like something when you go into it with a negative attitude, and that's how they seem to be approaching it to me.

[ice cream sand pig]

Thanks for the links Spirit! That's some good shit! Love his arrangements, I would kill to hear a stripped down version of CD like that. Or any alternate version of CD for that matter.

Thanks for posting the interview Jarmo! This is some great news. I'm glad that they aren't shelving the older Chinese songs in favor of releasing some more recent material sooner. This is mostly because I am a huge fan of the Chinese era, and I'm sure the new stuff will have it's time at some point too. It's great that there's so much material for them to choose from.

I'm super stoked about the next album. Major ants in my pants. Kind of makes me feel restless and impatient. I wonder what the album title is going to be? If it's called something other than CD2 it will be neat to hear the title for the first time. This is exciting... new songs, lyrics, song titles, album artwork, all completely unknown. With CD you could hear some of the stuff live (not to mention leaks) before you heard the album and you already knew what the title was gonna be but it looks like it may be different this time around.

[HBK]

Then... Material Remastered From Era:

FINCK / BRAIN / BUCKETHEAD

 

[HBK]

For the record, I'm a big fan of Chinese, but I can see where some fans are coming from. Chinese was quite different from previous GNR music in some aspects, even though I think it's still recognizable as GNR.

Some tunes, sure.

'Street Of Dreams', 'if The World' 'There Was A Time', 'Cather In The Rye', 'I.R.S.', for instance.  These would not be totally out of place on the UYI albums.

But tunes like 'Shacker's Revenge', 'Scraped', 'Rhiad & The Bedouins', 'Prostitute'...a bridge too far for some.

Are you talking about the songs as a whole or just parts of them? If I listen to the verses of the last four songs you mentioned, it's pretty straight forward rock music albeit there's some more electronic elements. The guitars are very much front and center. I agree there's a total different guitar sound if that's what you were thinking.

I think the best way to put it is that I could see Slash on any tune in the first batch.

That second batch, he's going to have no interest in any of that.

Is it the quality of the song itself? If so, that's fair.

As for if Slash would have worked on the material. I think he would have, there's a lot of ways to approach a song. Here's a couple of stripped down versions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=walgedu-DZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN7reZTaA1o


Personally I think Prostitute is a damn good song. Listening to the first link, I think that GNR should have gone for a stripped down version, it would have been their best acoustic song ever.

Maybe In ChinDem Remixes

 

[ice cream sand pig]

Amen to that HBK!

edit: I thought you were responding to my post. But even though you weren't, Amen to the prospect of a CD remix.

[draguns]

For me, "Prostitute" has a modern day "Rocket Queen" sound to it, which I like. The tunes that I like the most are:  "I.R.S." "CD", "Street of Dreams", "If the World", "Madagascar",  "Better", and "There was a Time". I think "TIL" sounds better live since it doesn't have that Weber feel to it. 

[draguns]

Btw, what is this loudness war that was talked about? Is it regarding the recording of CD?

[ice cream sand pig]

I agree Draguns, Prostitute resembles Rocket Queen in at least one way that I can think of. The last lyrics of Rocket Queen were like a peaceful epilogue to all of the madness on Appetite. Much like the closing portion of Prostitute.

[jarmo]

Btw, what is this loudness war that was talked about? Is it regarding the recording of CD?

Albums mastered to be louder and losing nuances in the process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

CD was mastered properly.
To sound good, not sound loud.


/jarmo

[draguns]

Thanks Jarmo. I remember that there was an issue with the way Metallica's "Death Magnetic" was recorded. I didn't know about this term, though.

[EmilyGNR]

The loudness wars were a huge issue in 2008.

Heres an article written by Bob Ludwig about the Loudness wars and Chinese Democracy.
http://www.gatewaymastering.com/gateway_LoudnessWars.asp

I've mentioned it once, but I'll say it again, that to me Chinese Democracy was the next evolution of GNR from the Illusion Albums.

I am looking very forward to owning and listening to more songs along the lines of Chidem. Especially "darker and meaner".