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« Reply #560 on: October 17, 2014, 02:23:10 PM »


As someone who attended both residencies, I can safely say that you're just seeing a GN'R show with a different stage production.  In fact, given that I saw "There Was A Time" and "Prostitute" for the first time ever, along with "Yesterdays" for the first time in more than two decades (and all very strong versions at that), I can safely say that you can see a great GN'R show with a different stage production.


Yeah, wish like hell I had a good audio bootleg of that show.  'Prostitute' was awesome.
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« Reply #561 on: October 17, 2014, 02:28:36 PM »

When someone, speculates, I think they are well aware that they are merely, speculating, and not ''misinformed misguided people discussing things they know nothing about''. In the light of no news, there is really nothing else to do but, speculate, unless you want to trade 'top 10 gnr songs' lists for evermore.


This is not true. In fact it is a blatant lie. The comment in question was a reply to the managerial competence of Merck, a former manager of Guns N' Roses. I merely paraphrased a statement which demonstrates that Team Brazil are not doing a much better job - or certainly have made one or two 'media errors'. My post was relevant to the prior point in other words.


I am 100% with you on this.

But I'm also 100% when I tell you this sort of talk goes nowhere.  I have had several of my own posts disappear, and you are best just letting it go.  He makes the call but he is also the appellate judge for his own decisions.

As he said, best to move on. 

Well it is his site - I do not doubt that. I just find it so unnecessary. It is not even the sort of censorship which makes any logical sense. If I said 'Axl was fat' or 'Ashba sucks', Jarmo has a case, but censoring a comment by the very management which the website purports to defend (I assume Beta would stand by the comment today incidentally) makes no sense to me?
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« Reply #562 on: October 17, 2014, 02:30:27 PM »

I agree.  He only feeds into the perception people have of this place doing that sort of thing.

BTW, this whole conversation it likely to go among the missing as well.
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« Reply #563 on: October 17, 2014, 02:32:47 PM »


^I might have to actually agree with that.  Stream a song, not the whole album.  Also, I've never liked any album ever on first listen and I think most people are the same in that sense.  To fully enjoy music, you have to know what's coming.  So, in that regard, I'll invest more time listening over and over to an album I've paid for, rather than something that's on a website streaming for free.

The lack of catchy hooks/choruses exacerbates the problem of only giving one listen.  It's the type of album that grows on you, not something you fall in love with on 1 or 2 listens.  It reminds me of the 80s cola wars,  where Pepsi would always beat Coke in taste tests, yet Coke would always outsell Pepsi by leaps and bounds.  Marketers figured out that tasters preferred a sample of Pepsi because it was sweeter, but preferred drinking Coke more regularly, because the sweetness of Pepsi was too much in large quantities for most people.  Much in the same way overly catchy songs, that are great at first few listens, get very quickly played out or annoying.

I agree whole-heartedly.  The decision to stream the entire album was a mistake.  It gave people a legal option to listen to the entire album without making a purchase.

I also agree that the lack of traditional pop song structures (verse-chorus-verse) and hooks makes the streaming option an even bigger problem.  It took me several listens to appreciate songs like "Sorry" and "Prostitute".  Once they did sink in, I loved them.  Now, "Prostitute" is on the level of "November Rain" and "Estranged" for me as Axl-penned epics.  

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« Reply #564 on: October 17, 2014, 02:35:09 PM »

Surprisingly he let my original complaint stand which was probably more controversial than the original post but, oh well, such is his logic!

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« Reply #565 on: October 17, 2014, 02:35:16 PM »


^I might have to actually agree with that.  Stream a song, not the whole album.  Also, I've never liked any album ever on first listen and I think most people are the same in that sense.  To fully enjoy music, you have to know what's coming.  So, in that regard, I'll invest more time listening over and over to an album I've paid for, rather than something that's on a website streaming for free.

The lack of catchy hooks/choruses exacerbates the problem of only giving one listen.  It's the type of album that grows on you, not something you fall in love with on 1 or 2 listens.  It reminds me of the 80s cola wars,  where Pepsi would always beat Coke in taste tests, yet Coke would always outsell Pepsi by leaps and bounds.  Marketers figured out that tasters preferred a sample of Pepsi because it was sweeter, but preferred drinking Coke more regularly, because the sweetness of Pepsi was too much in large quantities for most people.  Much in the same way overly catchy songs, that are great at first few listens, get very quickly played out or annoying.

I agree whole-heartedly.  The decision to stream the entire album was a mistake.  It gave people a legal option to listen to the entire album without making a purchase.

I also agree that the lack of traditional pop song structures (verse-chorus-verse) and hooks makes the streaming option an even bigger problem.  It took me several listens to appreciate songs like "Sorry" and "Prostitute".  Once they did sink in, I loved them.  Now, "Prostitute" is on the level of "November Rain" and "Estranged" for me as Axl-penned epics.  

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« Reply #566 on: October 17, 2014, 02:36:11 PM »


I'm also on your side here.  But I can tell you firsthand that Jarmo and some of the rest of the gang ain't.  Speculation, which I would think is just that, as well as away to pass the time, is deemed dangerous and unfair.  You are never going to hear me shutting down speculation talk.  You will from others.

I don't think speculation is shut down here per se, it's just that if you, me or anyone else here is going to throw out speculation, advice, etc. without valuable inside information, we should be prepared to have people tell us we don't know what we're talking about.  Which is fair.  We can speculate all we want, doesn't mean we're entitled to a favorable audience.  
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« Reply #567 on: October 17, 2014, 02:41:42 PM »


I'm also on your side here.  But I can tell you firsthand that Jarmo and some of the rest of the gang ain't.  Speculation, which I would think is just that, as well as away to pass the time, is deemed dangerous and unfair.  You are never going to hear me shutting down speculation talk.  You will from others.

I don't think speculation is shut down here per se, it's just that if you, me or anyone else here is going to throw out speculation, advice, etc. without valuable inside information, we should be prepared to have people tell us we don't know what we're talking about.  Which is fair.  We can speculate all we want, doesn't mean we're entitled to a favorable audience.  


What do you talk about though?

- They do not do interviews, beyond the usual ''album is due'' Ashba/Dizzy cut and paste jobs. Axl does not do interviews and he is the only one we are interested in really as he has the keys to the kingdom.

- They do not release albums so we cannot discuss which tracks we like, which tracks we do not like, what guitar solos we like....

- They do not really do television spots or music promos. They did release a live dvd so we had that to talk about for awhile.

For lack of, anything really, all we can do is speculate.
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« Reply #568 on: October 17, 2014, 02:49:12 PM »


I'm also on your side here.  But I can tell you firsthand that Jarmo and some of the rest of the gang ain't.  Speculation, which I would think is just that, as well as away to pass the time, is deemed dangerous and unfair.  You are never going to hear me shutting down speculation talk.  You will from others.

I don't think speculation is shut down here per se, it's just that if you, me or anyone else here is going to throw out speculation, advice, etc. without valuable inside information, we should be prepared to have people tell us we don't know what we're talking about.  Which is fair.  We can speculate all we want, doesn't mean we're entitled to a favorable audience.  


No doubt.

I guess I just missed all the times I either claimed myself an insider, or when I demanded all my ideas be implemented post haste because I'm an expert.

I'm a goober on the internet talking about a rock band.  I have never claimed to be anything more.
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« Reply #569 on: October 17, 2014, 02:50:10 PM »


For lack of, anything really, all we can do is speculate.


Yep.

We work with what we're given, but ain't given much.
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« Reply #570 on: October 17, 2014, 02:53:58 PM »



What do you talk about though?

- They do not do interviews, beyond the usual ''album is due'' Ashba/Dizzy cut and paste jobs. Axl does not do interviews and he is the only one we are interested in really as he has the keys to the kingdom.

- They do not release albums so we cannot discuss which tracks we like, which tracks we do not like, what guitar solos we like....

- They do not really do television spots or music promos. They did release a live dvd so we had that to talk about for awhile.

For lack of, anything really, all we can do is speculate.

I understand all that, just pointing out anyone disagreeing with a person's speculation or noting that we don't have all the facts does not mean nobody is allowed to speculate.  
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« Reply #571 on: October 17, 2014, 02:55:39 PM »



What do you talk about though?

- They do not do interviews, beyond the usual ''album is due'' Ashba/Dizzy cut and paste jobs. Axl does not do interviews and he is the only one we are interested in really as he has the keys to the kingdom.

- They do not release albums so we cannot discuss which tracks we like, which tracks we do not like, what guitar solos we like....

- They do not really do television spots or music promos. They did release a live dvd so we had that to talk about for awhile.

For lack of, anything really, all we can do is speculate.

I understand all that, just pointing out anyone disagreeing with a person's speculation or noting that we don't have all the facts does not mean nobody is allowed to speculate.  


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« Reply #572 on: October 17, 2014, 03:16:38 PM »

I love when they are on tour

Just because I find the fights about the setlist so much more entertaining than the lack of news so we must speculate fights lol
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« Reply #573 on: October 17, 2014, 03:20:04 PM »

I like when they are on tour because in this day and age, you have clips as soon as the next day, maybe the same night.

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« Reply #574 on: October 17, 2014, 03:21:50 PM »

I like when they are on tour because in this day and age, you have clips as soon as the next day, maybe the same night.



i was only half kidding... i love to follow the shows as well
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« Reply #575 on: October 17, 2014, 03:29:58 PM »

I like when they are on tour because in this day and age, you have clips as soon as the next day, maybe the same night.



Why, so you can sit in your parent's basement, impress your internet friends and talk negatively about shows you didn't attend?

Sorry...I just blacked out.  What did I say?
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« Reply #576 on: October 17, 2014, 03:53:37 PM »

I like when they are on tour because in this day and age, you have clips as soon as the next day, maybe the same night.



Why, so you can sit in your parent's basement, impress your internet friends and talk negatively about shows you didn't attend?

Sorry...I just blacked out.  What did I say?

AND JUST HOW OLD AM I, GOD DAMN IT??!!
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« Reply #577 on: October 17, 2014, 03:57:20 PM »

I like when they are on tour because in this day and age, you have clips as soon as the next day, maybe the same night.



Why, so you can sit in your parent's basement, impress your internet friends and talk negatively about shows you didn't attend?

Sorry...I just blacked out.  What did I say?

AND JUST HOW OLD AM I, GOD DAMN IT??!!

It's so weird you won't tell...
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« Reply #578 on: October 17, 2014, 04:01:35 PM »

I like when they are on tour because in this day and age, you have clips as soon as the next day, maybe the same night.



Why, so you can sit in your parent's basement, impress your internet friends and talk negatively about shows you didn't attend?

Sorry...I just blacked out.  What did I say?

AND JUST HOW OLD AM I, GOD DAMN IT??!!

It's so weird you won't tell...

Whether I'm 27, 47, or 97, what's it change, I wonder?

Will she stop ranting and raving like a street person and lashing out at the world like an angry drunk, based on my answer?
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« Reply #579 on: October 17, 2014, 04:24:25 PM »

I merely paraphrased a statement which demonstrates that Team Brazil are not doing a much better job - or certainly have made one or two 'media errors'. My post was relevant to the prior point in other words.

I feel sorry for you if you can't see the difference between making statements to the media and posting a comment aimed at one individual on your personal instagram account.

Not everything people in the band or working for the band say is a band or management statement. Now, move on.


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