Goodbye Ron (???)

[TheBaconman]

DC and Stones. Those two bands are virtually invulnerable to declining American markets.

I agree! In the NYC area, I would also put Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, Fleetwood Mac, U2, and Billy Joel. Billy Joel has sold out 24 consecutive Madison Square Garden shows. To a lesser extent maybe Foo Fighters since they sold out Citifield.

How many people live in this New York area?   20 million?  I hope there are some live concert fans there

[mortismurphy]

It was just pointed out to you that Canada gets more shows than the USA. Europe gets more then those two combined.
Nobody is immune to anything.

Quit fooling yourself, AC/DC troll.




/jarmo

Are you implying that N. America and Europe will not see return legs. Jarmo, all I can say is look at the European itinerary. Count the number of German shows. Now, count the French shows. I know what you are trying to do here. You are trying to make a rhetorical point to boost up Axl's US flops. But the point is, DC could book far more stadiums than they have and sell out.

As I said, expect repeat legs.

[FunkyMonkey]

If management doesn't want to let the fans know what's going on, we don't have much choice.  Do we.

Why do you have such a problem accepting the situation? That there might be a reason, or reasons, for there not being an update? Why is this so hard to grasp?
What if they don't know? What if they will only look at it once there's something to be done? What if they don't wanna announce anything until they're sure about it? All this is too far fetched?

/jarmo

Nine months and ninety-four pages later they can give the fans some kind of an update.  It has become ridiculous at this point.

[jarmo]

Of course you can do more legs. But is that your "excuse" for them not booking more shows in the US? Why all those Canadian shows if they'll be back?

What promoter doesn't book as many shows as possible? You don't think they would've done 50 shows in US stadiums if they could?

Nine months and ninety-four pages later they can give the fans some kind of an update.  It has become ridiculous at this point.

As I said, pick an answer and go with it.
It's only ridiculous when you go on and on about it.






/jarmo

[draguns]

Baconman, some bands can't do it. These bands and music artists are untouchable in this area. The original lineup of GNR COULD have done it and DID do it back in the day. The new lineup can't as I saw it in 2011 at the Izod Center.

[FunkyMonkey]

It's only ridiculous when you go on and on about it.

/jarmo

No, it's not.

[TheBaconman]

Baconman, some bands can't do it. These bands and music artists are untouchable in this area. The original lineup of GNR COULD have done it and DID do it back in the day. The new lineup can't as I saw it in 2011 at the Izod Center.

That's a weird market then

My market here has 20 times less people.  And any known band has no problem selling out shows

[mortismurphy]

Of course you can do more legs. But is that your "excuse" for them not booking more shows in the US? Why all those Canadian shows if they'll be back?

What promoter doesn't book as many shows as possible? You don't think they would've done 50 shows in US stadiums if they could?

Why eight German dates and only one French date? Answer, promoters and time. My own belief is they will pick up these lost markets later. As I said, it is an odd looking tour that has been commented on elsewhere. DC have not really commented on it but the general theory is they aim to add subsequent legs.

Maybe they should hire Team Brazil? In a nutshell, Vegas-Brazil-Vegas (repeat) for four years. It makes it rather easier logistically I suppose?

[draguns]

Baconman, some bands can't do it. These bands and music artists are untouchable in this area. The original lineup of GNR COULD have done it and DID do it back in the day. The new lineup can't as I saw it in 2011 at the Izod Center.

That's a weird market then

My market here has 20 times less people.  And any known band has no problem selling out shows

It's not that weird dude. If you really think about it and view it from an objective standpoint rather than subjectively.

[jarmo]

It's only ridiculous when you go on and on about it.

/jarmo

No, it's not.

Yes. You go on and on about it.

What does this tell you:

bumblefoot: Ron 'Bumblefoot' Thal Solo artist, producer...
Dj ASHBA: Lead guitarist of Guns N' Roses and Sixx:A.M., Entrepreneur and CEO of ASHBA Enterprises, Inc. http://www.djashba.com

Those are their social media profiles. Now, can you come to a conclusion?


Could this change? Of course.

Why eight German dates and only one French date? Answer, promoters and time. My own belief is they will pick up these lost markets later. As I said, it is an odd looking tour that has been commented on elsewhere. DC have not really commented on it but the general theory is they aim to add subsequent legs.

The German promoter probably made a good offer. And maybe they have a bigger fan base there than France!
The French one might think one is enough.

You still failed to answer why they'd only do shows on the two costs plus two shows in the "middle"... If they could've done say 30 shows all over the place....
"Saving for later" sounds like an excuse and spin!

Maybe they should hire Team Brazil? In a nutshell, Vegas-Brazil-Vegas (repeat) for four years. It makes it rather easier logistically I suppose?

Trollololol. You're so funny.
When proven wrong, try to direct attention elsewhere.



/jarmo

[FunkyMonkey]

Yes. You go on and on about it.

/jarmo

No, I don't, you just don't like to hear it.  And that's not what's ridiculous.

[mortismurphy]

The German promoter probably made a good offer. And maybe they have a bigger fan base there than France!
The French one might think one is enough.

You still failed to answer why they'd only do shows on the two costs plus two shows in the "middle"... If they could've done say 30 shows all over the place....

Eight German dates to two UK? Are DC significantly that much bigger in Germany than the UK?

"Saving for later" sounds like an excuse and spin!

It is actually just guess work Jarmo, educated guess work.

[Sosso]

The German promoter probably made a good offer. And maybe they have a bigger fan base there than France!
The French one might think one is enough.

You still failed to answer why they'd only do shows on the two costs plus two shows in the "middle"... If they could've done say 30 shows all over the place....

Eight German dates to two UK? Are DC significantly that much bigger in Germany than the UK?

"Saving for later" sounds like an excuse and spin!

It is actually just guess work Jarmo, educated guess work.

There is a huge and loyal fan base in Germany. So it's no wonder that the the band will hosts eight concerts.

[mortismurphy]

The German promoter probably made a good offer. And maybe they have a bigger fan base there than France!
The French one might think one is enough.

You still failed to answer why they'd only do shows on the two costs plus two shows in the "middle"... If they could've done say 30 shows all over the place....

Eight German dates to two UK? Are DC significantly that much bigger in Germany than the UK?

"Saving for later" sounds like an excuse and spin!

It is actually just guess work Jarmo, educated guess work.

There is a huge and loyal fan base in Germany. So it's no wonder that the the band will hosts eight concerts.

I agree. But in contrast to only two UK gigs and (one French)?

[draguns]

I forgot to add one other band that is probably untouchable in the  NYC area, which can sell out Giants Stadium (Metlife), Yankee Stadium, Madison Square Garden and Citi Field. That is Metallica.

[Sosso]

The German promoter probably made a good offer. And maybe they have a bigger fan base there than France!
The French one might think one is enough.

You still failed to answer why they'd only do shows on the two costs plus two shows in the "middle"... If they could've done say 30 shows all over the place....

Eight German dates to two UK? Are DC significantly that much bigger in Germany than the UK?

"Saving for later" sounds like an excuse and spin!

It is actually just guess work Jarmo, educated guess work.

There is a huge and loyal fan base in Germany. So it's no wonder that the the band will hosts eight concerts.

I agree. But in contrast to only two UK gigs and (one French)?

Look at the concert halls in the UK and check out how many of them can handle audiences of 40000+ people.

[mortismurphy]

I don't follow?

So are you arguing they are not going to pick up further European dates, and that the amount of German dates are merely a reflection that German is four times the fan that the UK is? It would be odd since, at a minimum, most major rock bands end with additional festival legs.

[Sosso]

I don't follow?

So are you arguing they are not going to pick up further European dates, and that the amount of German dates are merely a reflection that German is four times the fan that the UK is? It would be odd since, at a minimum, most major rock bands end with additional festival legs.

There were three Eurpean legs during the Black Ice tour. Maybe we will see more concerts during the second or third leg of the Rock or Bust Tour in the UK.

[EmilyGNR]

My cousin just told me GNR is doing their first DJ set. Is that true? Their new EDM project? April Fools Joke?

That is a Frank/Pitman gig in Miami, Rudy.

[EmilyGNR]

circle-jerk of shit

You can always rely on Emma to continue the time old (but thoroughly elusive) HTGTH manifesto upon, ''spreading, positivity''. She does have a creative way with insults mind.

Wasn't an insult as much as an accurate assessment, but  I'm a card-carrying cult member.   

The tendency to whining and complaining may be taken as the surest sign symptom of little souls and inferior intellects.