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Quote from: JAEBALL on March 25, 2015, 08:37:54 PM
Bacon that simply is just not true they didn't sell out Montreal and Toronto in 2013 and those were just small venues like three thousand people...
So I don't know what u are talking about with the all mighty Canada...
But hopefully they do play there again soon...Montreal is one of my favorite cities
Those were just 2 shows on their up close and personal tour...which isn't the big huge over the top rock show most people want to see. During their last actual Canadian tour in 2010 most shows were either sold out or just single tickets left and they were all in hockey arenas. Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Hamilton and Montreal were all packed shows. Saskatoon was 3/4 full and would've been packed if Regina didn't have a show. I'm not mentioning the other shows because I can't remember how well they sold but I'm pretty sure every other show sold very well. I have absolutely no doubt that a Canadian tour would be hugely successful.
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Just want to point out something with AC/DC since it has been brought up. They have limited dates in the U.S., which is true. However, they are playing in the BIGGEST markets. Not many bands or musical acts can sell out Giants Stadium (aka Metlife). It takes a very well known and great act to do it!
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Quote from: draguns on March 25, 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Just want to point out something with AC/DC since it has been brought up. They have limited dates in the U.S., which is true. However, they are playing in the BIGGEST markets. Not many bands or musical acts can sell out Giants Stadium (aka Metlife). It takes a very well known and great act to do it!
True. Stadiums here are very hard to do.
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on March 25, 2015, 08:43:56 PM
But as I said in the part you forgot to quote (oversight, I'm sure), since when do they care about such things?
Suddenly they are going to feel the need to address follow up questions? Since when?
You're just assuming you know better than Axl and management.
I didn't mean they need to address follow up questions, I'm saying releasing an update that creates more questions than it answers might not be something they wanna do at this point.
Why can't the free thinkers see that angle?
Quote from: draguns on March 25, 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Just want to point out something with AC/DC since it has been brought up. They have limited dates in the U.S., which is true. However, they are playing in the BIGGEST markets. Not many bands or musical acts can sell out Giants Stadium (aka Metlife). It takes a very well known and great act to do it!
Yes, I'm aware they are playing stadiums in the biggest markets. But still, over half of the shows are north of the border!
Also, compare to their European tour.... More shows over here.
Maybe it says something about the state of rock music in the USA.....
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on March 25, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
When did I say I don't want more speculation. We have plenty of speculation. What we don't have is answers.
I don't buy into this you can't have a problem unless you have a solution. Sometimes bad news happens, you deal with it.
We're having this talk again because we've heard nothing new.
Why not just make an assumption based on the facts you got in front of you, and stick with it until we know more. Either you'll be right, or wrong. No big deal really.
Works for most of us. We're not guessing day in and day out whether or not it is or if it isn't.
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March 25, 2015, 09:21:58 PM »
Quote from: jarmo on March 25, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: D-GenerationX on March 25, 2015, 08:43:56 PM
But as I said in the part you forgot to quote (oversight, I'm sure), since when do they care about such things?
Suddenly they are going to feel the need to address follow up questions? Since when?
You're just assuming you know better than Axl and management.
I didn't mean they need to address follow up questions, I'm saying releasing an update that creates more questions than it answers might not be something they wanna do at this point.
Why can't the free thinkers see that angle?
Because it sounds flimsy.
It sounds like you making an excuse. And over something that really doesn't need one.
Is it just reflexive at this point?
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Quote from: JAEBALL on March 25, 2015, 08:37:54 PM
Bacon that simply is just not true they didn't sell out Montreal and Toronto in 2013 and those were just small venues like three thousand people...
So I don't know what u are talking about with the all mighty Canada...
But hopefully they do play there again soon...Montreal is one of my favorite cities
I do not consider Toronto part of Canada lol jk
They would do just fine with great success in most cities. And it is true. Because it's just my opinion haha
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My cousin just told me GNR is doing their first DJ set. Is that true? Their new EDM project? April Fools Joke?
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Quote from: JeffK on March 25, 2015, 09:12:00 PM
Quote from: JAEBALL on March 25, 2015, 08:37:54 PM
Bacon that simply is just not true they didn't sell out Montreal and Toronto in 2013 and those were just small venues like three thousand people...
So I don't know what u are talking about with the all mighty Canada...
But hopefully they do play there again soon...Montreal is one of my favorite cities
Those were just 2 shows on their up close and personal tour...which isn't the big huge over the top rock show most people want to see. During their last actual Canadian tour in 2010 most shows were either sold out or just single tickets left and they were all in hockey arenas. Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Hamilton and Montreal were all packed shows. Saskatoon was 3/4 full and would've been packed if Regina didn't have a show. I'm not mentioning the other shows because I can't remember how well they sold but I'm pretty sure every other show sold very well. I have absolutely no doubt that a Canadian tour would be hugely successful.
Guns also played in newfieland and all of the true east coast of Canada. To almost sell out if not sell outs. In a tour that was barely promoted
They would make mega coin if they proceeded with another coast to coast tour
Hell the band journey is playing to a near sell out at the arena here. 16000 people
Of coarse ac/dc is playing the stadium here Probably be 60 000 people there. And it sold out in 45 mins
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The DC tour is a bit odd for all sorts of reasons (and this has been talked about a lot). There are tons of German dates yet barely any in the UK and almost none in France. Does that mean DC are bigger in German? Perhaps? Perhaps not? Marginal as the UK traditionally loves ACDC.
I am expecting a return leg.
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March 25, 2015, 09:30:29 PM »
Quote from: draguns on March 25, 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Just want to point out something with AC/DC since it has been brought up. They have limited dates in the U.S., which is true. However, they are playing in the BIGGEST markets. Not many bands or musical acts can sell out Giants Stadium (aka Metlife). It takes a very well known and great act to do it!
The city I live in is edmonton, Alberta
Around 1 million people give or take
Ac/dc will be playing in front of 60 000 people here and may actually do another show
It's not always the size of the market. But how much coin that market has in its pants
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Quote from: mortismurphy on March 25, 2015, 09:30:00 PM
The DC tour is a bit odd for all sorts of reasons (and this has been talked about a lot). There are tons of German dates yet barely any in the UK and almost none in France. Does that mean DC are bigger in German? Perhaps? Perhaps not? Marginal as the UK traditionally loves ACDC.
I am expecting a return leg.
I agree with the world tour dates seeming pretty strange. I wouldn't be surprised to see another leg added on to this tour. If the boys can handle it.
I was lucky enough to see them a few years ago. Row 8 just off the side to the stage.
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Quote from: jarmo on March 25, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on March 25, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
When did I say I don't want more speculation. We have plenty of speculation. What we don't have is answers.
I don't buy into this you can't have a problem unless you have a solution. Sometimes bad news happens, you deal with it.
We're having this talk again because we've heard nothing new.
Why not just make an assumption based on the facts you got in front of you, and stick with it until we know more. Either you'll be right, or wrong. No big deal really.
Works for most of us. We're not guessing day in and day out whether or not it is or if it isn't.
/jarmo
If management doesn't want to let the fans know what's going on, we don't have much choice. Do we.
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on March 25, 2015, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: jarmo on March 25, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on March 25, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
When did I say I don't want more speculation. We have plenty of speculation. What we don't have is answers.
I don't buy into this you can't have a problem unless you have a solution. Sometimes bad news happens, you deal with it.
We're having this talk again because we've heard nothing new.
Why not just make an assumption based on the facts you got in front of you, and stick with it until we know more. Either you'll be right, or wrong. No big deal really.
Works for most of us. We're not guessing day in and day out whether or not it is or if it isn't.
/jarmo
If management doesn't want to let the fans know what's going on, we don't have much choice. Do we.
Do you really think management or even most guys in the band know what's going on? I would say not so much.
Axls mind could change daily
I could see Axl just releasing a album and DJ listening to it. Saying to himself. Damn that's a cool song. I wonder if I should learn it. Hahaha
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I can only presume that a certain German promoter made a good sale which DC grabbed. DC have curtailed other markets probably, hopefully, intending to pick them up later on in an extra added leg.
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Quote from: TheBaconman on March 25, 2015, 09:40:09 PM
Do you really think management or even most guys in the band know what's going on?
Jarmo said management knows what's going on. About 50 pages ago.
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Quote from: mortismurphy on March 25, 2015, 09:41:19 PM
I can only presume that a certain German promoter made a good sale which DC grabbed. DC have curtailed other markets probably, hopefully, intending to pick them up later on in an extra added leg.
Playing the Grammies and strong U.S. sales. I am surprised they are not doing more shows there.
As week as the USAs rock market is. Dc seems to be the in thing right now. So I am sure they would sell huge
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DC and Stones. Those two bands are virtually invulnerable to declining American markets.
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on March 25, 2015, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: TheBaconman on March 25, 2015, 09:40:09 PM
Do you really think management or even most guys in the band know what's going on?
Jarmo said management knows what's going on. About 50 pages ago.
Hahaha. I am on the vodka right now, so may actually go back in time and try a find that
I am sure management knows what ever Axl tells the he wants to do
Does management have any plans. Well plans probably just around what Axl wants
I don't know if they go out of there way to push him into things or challenge him Mb they do
I know if I was sitting in Malibu on a truck of gold. I would just want to be surrounded by a bunch of yes men myself. We'll probably yes women lol
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on March 25, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
It sounds like you making an excuse. And over something that really doesn't need one.
It sounds like I'm doing some free thinking!
Why do you think there's no update? Because _____.
Common sense.
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on March 25, 2015, 09:35:29 PM
If management doesn't want to let the fans know what's going on, we don't have much choice. Do we.
"Doesn't want" does not equal not doing it.
I can't run 100m under 10 seconds, doesn't mean I don't want to!
Why do you have such a problem accepting the situation? That there might be a reason, or reasons, for there not being an update? Why is this so hard to grasp?
What if they don't know? What if they will only look at it once there's something to be done? What if they don't wanna announce anything until they're sure about it? All this is too far fetched?
Quote from: mortismurphy on March 25, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
DC and Stones. Those two bands are virtually invulnerable to declining American markets.
It was just pointed out to you that Canada gets more shows than the USA. Europe gets more then those two combined.
Nobody is immune to anything.
Quit fooling yourself, AC/DC troll.
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Quote from: mortismurphy on March 25, 2015, 09:45:54 PM
DC and Stones. Those two bands are virtually invulnerable to declining American markets.
I agree! In the NYC area, I would also put Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, Fleetwood Mac, U2, and Billy Joel. Billy Joel has sold out 24 consecutive Madison Square Garden shows. To a lesser extent maybe Foo Fighters since they sold out Citifield.
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