Goodbye Ron (???)

[NickNasty]

Awww hell whatta a way to come back to the board, lol. Meh, best of luck to him, the unsteady march will go on as it always has.

[jarmo]

Are you honestly saying that, after 2008, any band member can introduce ideas and for the band to begin work on them? As I type, there is a brand new Ron interview in which he states that he had two songs originally intended for Guns.

Your argument is a straw man since I am well aware of how GN'R have composed in the past. Is this happening now? Could DJ go, ''right, let's record a new album''?

Of course they can. Even Axl said so.
Are you saying those songs should have been recorded by GN'R?
Are you saying nobody has presented any songs to GN'R since 2008?


Is it happening now? Probably not since Dj is busy with Sixx: A.M and Dizzy & Richard are busy with the Dead Daisies.


Just because Ron's songs didn't end up on the next GN'R album doesn't mean nobody can or will contribute.
That is, as you often say, a straw man argument!


Edited to add: Why do you think Ron needs to be a songwriter in GN'R? Not everybody who was involved with Chinese Democracy got a writing credit on the album. The only way to have "progress" is to have his song ideas worked on? Of course not.

Reminds me of the old rock band cliche "I won't work on your songs if you don't work on mine".



/jarmo

[EmilyGNR]

Thanks to @gunsnrosesnews for this.


Interview: Bumblefoot Refuses To Discuss GNR, Talks Scott Weiland Recording Art of Anarchy Material Without Band
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by Mike Mazzarone - Mar 23, 2015

Today I had the chance to interview Ron ?Bumblefoot? Thal. While Bumblefoot touched on many topics including his relationship with Joe Satriani, Art of Anarchy, a potential Little Brother Is Watching world tour and his favorite GNR material, Ron was very hesitant to answer anything related to Guns N? Roses.  I was able to get him to discuss his favorite GNR tracks and recording the ?Pink Panther Theme,? but otherwise he said that talking about GNR would give him a headache.

Bumblefoot also discussed recording the Art of Anarchy album, and how Scott Weiland worked with the band, praising his work, but being unsure of his commitment to the band.  Thank you to MSL and GNRTruth for providing many questions.

Are you planning a Little Brother is Watching World Tour?

It?s possible. I would love to, I definitely want to, I need to, I should. However, first I want to nurture the album a little bit more, I want to put out more videos, I want to do more things to let people know that it exists so people can check out the music and get to know it. After that though, I would like to hit the road, all over the place.

What accomplished songwriters that you?ve worked with have influenced your solo work most?

(Laughs) Ones that I have worked with that have influenced me the most? Let me think. Accomplished, that I?ve worked with? There are accomplished songwriters that I haven?t worked with, and songwriters that I have worked with that weren?t accomplished at all! I would say the one person that has it all is Tony Harnell (of TNT), he writes beautiful melodies and definitely makes me think a bit more when it comes to vocal melody.

Is there any material you initially wrote for GNR that ended up on your album?

Yes, I had two songs, ?Argentina? and ?Don?t Know Who To Preach To Anymore? that when I first wrote them I left them unfinished and I was thinking that I could bring them to the table with GNR but I felt ultimately that both songs were better fits on my solo album.

A three part question here: What is your favorite original GNR song, your favorite Chinese Democracy song, and your favorite unreleased GNR song?

Did you get the memo about no GNR questions or no?

No sir, I was never informed of that.

Oh, well, I?m sorry, I?m not supposed to talk about GNR. I will answer this question but from here-on we cannot discuss GNR. It actually would be fucking fantastic if you skipped every question you had about them from here-on. It would save a lot of headache. However, my favorite original GNR song is ?Don?t Cry?. For personal reasons, of course it?s a beautiful song but that was also a time during shows where I would play the solo, the fans would sing along and it was my own personal chance to connect with the audience and that made that song extra special for me.

As far as stuff off of Chinese, I would say ?Shackler?s Revenge? because of all the crazy setlist stuff, two handed stuff and doing that wild singing, it kept me busy and out of trouble.

How much time did Scott Weiland spend writing and recording with you guys in the studio, and did it come off to you like he was committed to the band, or just doing it for the check?

(Sigh) Well, he started off and wrote one song with us, he did everything in his own studio and had Doug Grean, his former right hand man doing everything with him at his place. Scott did one song called ?Til The Dust Is Gone? and it came out beautifully. In fact, it?s probably going to be one of the singles. We shot a video for it and then he agreed to do the whole album so he pretty much banged out really quickly, in about a month. Scott would just write, write, write & hand things over. It was great.
As far as getting inside of his mind or spread any sort of negative dirt, that I cannot get into or even tell you. That is not stuff that I can answer.

Have you considered doing guitar and vocals for Art of Anarchy if there is a tour and more albums after the debut is released?

I don?t think so, no, because Art of Anarchy was created as a supergroup. Meaning, it would have a singer with one background, me in there with another background?etc. I think that?s what made it special and if I take over vocal duties I would compare that to teaching a three legged dog to run. I would love to if Scott was willing to see it through but if he didn?t then I would love to find someone that would be willing to see it through.

What is the current status of Blowout-NYC? Any plans for more shows?

There is no status, that?s not happening. Yeah, we did one show and everyone is too busy doing other things so that?s just not going to happen.

Can you tell me about the recording session for the track ?Pink Panther Theme.? I understand most members of GNR contributed with the exception of Axl.

That one, we actually played live and then I put it in my solos at my place. We did it live in California and then we took it live before we hit the road and I wrote my solos on it, spending around three weeks trying to transcribe it.

What was it like meeting Joe Satriani and playing with him? Do you have a favorite song of Satriani?s you like to play?

Joe is just a sweetheart, just a wonderful guy. We stay in touch, we see each other, whenever Chickenfoot would come into town I try and get over there and say hello. One of my favorites is ?Always With You?. That song has such a beautiful melody and could go on forever and never stop being beautiful.

Wonderful track. Beautiful song, I would like to thank you for taking par-

Hey listen, do you have some actual questions for me about my solo album, or no? Anything of interest that you want me to tell you about, anything? Anything that doesn?t have to do with GNR or Scott Weiland?
Here, I?ll tell you something cool about the new album, one thing that was cool about it was that I really enjoyed the process. I had 100 fans and friends and we all met at a venue in Brooklyn. So, like this listening party but the album wasn?t finished yet. We played each song in the state that they were in at the time, talked about each song with a little Q&A talking about what each song was about as well as different things. I then showed everybody different parts to sing and we sang them together so the album has group vocals of about 100 different people chanting stuff and singing different stuff. That is something that I really wanted to do.

For me, albums I like including people that are actually going to be listening to the stuff and make them part of the process. To me that?s most special because it?s for everybody, not just for me.


http://www.alternativenation.net/interview-bumblefoot-refuses-to-discuss-guns-n-roses-talks-scott-weiland-recording-art-of-anarchy-material-without-band/

[jarmo]

Is there any material you initially wrote for GNR that ended up on your album?

Yes, I had two songs, “Argentina” and “Don’t Know Who To Preach To Anymore” that when I first wrote them I left them unfinished and I was thinking that I could bring them to the table with GNR but I felt ultimately that both songs were better fits on my solo album.

Funny how apparently this is GN'R's fault! According to mortismurphy!

 


Also, does it seem like the interview ended abruptly?



/jarmo

[EmilyGNR]

Is there any material you initially wrote for GNR that ended up on your album?

Yes, I had two songs, ?Argentina? and ?Don?t Know Who To Preach To Anymore? that when I first wrote them I left them unfinished and I was thinking that I could bring them to the table with GNR but I felt ultimately that both songs were better fits on my solo album.

Funny how apparently this is GN'R's fault! According to mortismurphy!

 



/jarmo

Ha! Global warming, the economy, natural disasters,crime,famine, violence are all the direct fault of GNR if you ask Moaning Mortis 

It did seem to end rather suddenly.

[FunkyMonkey]

I?m sorry, I?m not supposed to talk about GNR. I will answer this question but from here-on we cannot discuss GNR. It actually would be fucking fantastic if you skipped every question you had about them from here-on.

Wow.  That says something.

[EmilyGNR]

Just recieved this via @gunsnrosesnews

Hey everyone. This is Mike Mazzarone and I was the one that conducted the interview.

I will do my best to really explain the situation here. When I confirmed regarding the interview with Ron, I was never, under any circumstance told by his publicist that anything was off limits. Therefore and logically we used questions regarding Scott Weiland, GNR, and more hot button topics. Softballs were included and we are going to do a full review of the album, however when I was told "Did you get the memo about no GNR questions", that was the first time I had heard such a thing. By Ron himself. I had many more questions that I was going to use and that wasn't useable because of that last second curveball. Ron never told me that it was due to legal issues or a gag order, he said that he just didn't want to discuss it. While he did answer the three parter, he even felt nervous about that.

I honestly put full blame on the publicist, however Ron was just as unprofessional about his handling over the phone about it. However, and I can't stress this enough, I was never told ONCE that any questions about Guns N' Roses were off limits.

[D-GenerationX]

Man, that's pretty weak. 

[FunkyMonkey]

Just recieved this via @gunsnrosesnews

Hey everyone. This is Mike Mazzarone and I was the one that conducted the interview.

I will do my best to really explain the situation here. When I confirmed regarding the interview with Ron, I was never, under any circumstance told by his publicist that anything was off limits. Therefore and logically we used questions regarding Scott Weiland, GNR, and more hot button topics. Softballs were included and we are going to do a full review of the album, however when I was told "Did you get the memo about no GNR questions", that was the first time I had heard such a thing. By Ron himself. I had many more questions that I was going to use and that wasn't useable because of that last second curveball. Ron never told me that it was due to legal issues or a gag order, he said that he just didn't want to discuss it. While he did answer the three parter, he even felt nervous about that.

I honestly put full blame on the publicist, however Ron was just as unprofessional about his handling over the phone about it. However, and I can't stress this enough, I was never told ONCE that any questions about Guns N' Roses were off limits.

That happens all the time.  I've read enough interviews with Slash were he's asked GN'R questions he doesn't want to answer.  The publicist didn't say were off limits.

I don't think Ron was unprofessional, unless there's more.

[jarmo]

Wow.  That says something.

Yeah. He's focusing on his solo career.


/jarmo

[FunkyMonkey]

Wow.  That says something.

Yeah. He's focusing on his solo career.

/jarmo

That's not what he's saying.

[Spirit]

To be honest I'm fed up with this Bumble situation..

Seems like he's fucked up big-time, and is now just trying to minimize the damage by steering away from any question regarding the topic.

First he said he couldn't say anything, then he said that it was all his choice. But he still chooses to evade it all.

Could it be that he's not 100% out yet, that there's some contract negotiation going on? Then when he started the whole public spectacle things have become increasingly difficult. Is this why he won't say "I'm out"? Because in reality he technically isn't...

[EmilyGNR]

Wow.  That says something.

Yeah. He's focusing on his solo career.


/jarmo

Which is why he immediately joined another group, makes perfect sense. 

[D-GenerationX]

Could it be that he's not 100% out yet, that there's some contract negotiation going on? Then when he started the whole public spectacle things have become increasingly difficult. Is this why he won't say "I'm out"? Because in reality he technically isn't...

I thought this at first.

But the more this has gone on, that's going to awkward as shit, isn't it?  For everybody, us included.

[Spirit]

Wow.  That says something.

Yeah. He's focusing on his solo career.

/jarmo

Which is why he immediately joined another group, makes perfect sense. 

He started work on that project over 2 years ago.

Still, he said he wanted to prioritize his solo career.

Bumblefoot is to my knowledge one of the main forces behind Art Of Anarchy, as he co-founded and produced the record.

Then, while wanting to focus on his solo stuff, Art Of Anarchy releases their teaser trailer for the album - and basically launches the band for the world - just three days before the release of his solo record.

Seems to me like he doesn't want to focus just on the solo stuff...

[FunkyMonkey]

Wow.  That says something.

Yeah. He's focusing on his solo career.

/jarmo

Which is why he immediately joined another group, makes perfect sense. 

He started work on that project over 2 years ago.

Still, he said he wanted to prioritize his solo career.

Bumblefoot is to my knowledge one of the main forces behind Art Of Anarchy, as he co-founded and produced the record.

Then, while wanting to focus on his solo stuff, Art Of Anarchy releases their teaser trailer for the album - and basically launches the band for the world - just three days before the release of his solo record.

Seems to me like he doesn't want to focus just on the solo stuff...

So?  What's wrong with that?

[GNR2014]

Why is everyone being so negative?!
Have you forgotten we are on the verge of a new album?
Ron's parts are done, so him leaving (or not) isn't going to have any bearing on us hearing new music.
We just got a 3D Bluray and we are getting Chinese part 2 and the remix album next.
Lighten up, jeez

[Spirit]

Could it be that he's not 100% out yet, that there's some contract negotiation going on? Then when he started the whole public spectacle things have become increasingly difficult. Is this why he won't say "I'm out"? Because in reality he technically isn't...

I thought this at first.

But the more this has gone on, that's going to awkward as shit, isn't it?  For everybody, us included.

Yeah, if any negotiation were taking place I would imagine it has broken down by now.

I don't know what kind of contracts they have in GNR, but it could be that Ron just wants to ride out his, if it's just say, a matter of months until it expires. If he were to quit while on contract, there would be some money related issues I would think.

[Spirit]

Wow.  That says something.

Yeah. He's focusing on his solo career.

/jarmo

Which is why he immediately joined another group, makes perfect sense. 

He started work on that project over 2 years ago.

Still, he said he wanted to prioritize his solo career.

Bumblefoot is to my knowledge one of the main forces behind Art Of Anarchy, as he co-founded and produced the record.

Then, while wanting to focus on his solo stuff, Art Of Anarchy releases their teaser trailer for the album - and basically launches the band for the world - just three days before the release of his solo record.

Seems to me like he doesn't want to focus just on the solo stuff...

So?  What's wrong with that?

Nothing... in it by itself.

But the picture he's been painting is that he's quit GNR in order to focus on his solo stuff.

Don't you think it sends the wrong message, especially to the GNR fans, when he starts promoting his new band immediately afterwards?

[FunkyMonkey]

Don't you think it sends the wrong message, especially to the GNR fans, when he starts promoting his new band immediately afterwards?

No, his "new band" is a project he's been working on for over 2 years.  Maybe he considers his projects outside of GN'R as his solo stuff.