Goodbye Ron (???)

[sworrm]

I hope he has gone , he just doesn't belong on a big stage playing to thousands of people !! He looks like he should be a guitar teacher at college or something , no image or GnR attitude , a boring drip , if they made any videos he hasn't got what it takes to be a rock god to stand next to Axl !
I think he's a nerd . He's a widdler no feeling in his playing . Anyway just my opinion but I really hope he has gone !

[rebelhipi]

My guess is that Ron is out if the band. BUT there is a chance that he might come back before anything new happens. He just needs to do other things than GN'R maybe when lets say late 2015 comes and he is being asked to join a for a tour, for spring 2016, he might say yes.

Other than that, there is, Duff, Izzy and Robin. that might be interested. Or a new guy/gal.

Well, Tommy does what Duff does (bass)
And..Richard does what Izzy does (Rhythm)

And neither one if these guys are in question, right?

That leaves only Robin out of your guesses.  I'd love to see Duff come back but I'm not so sure about him (or Tommy) playing rhythm (if Richard were to move to lead) or lead and if they would even want to? Because that's what one of them would have to do if they were both on board.   If we're talking about Duff, I think it's more realistic he replaces Tommy all together. 

I wouldnt want to see Tommy go, i like him as much as i like Duff(maybe even more).

Anyway i was thinking, if Duff or Izzy would rejoin, they would play rhythm guitar, moving 4tus replacing Bumblefoot, and Ashba would stay where he is.

If Robin rejoins that would be more complicated, would Robin or Ashba take Bumblefoots shoes.

[bailyrose]

I wouldn't like to see Robin return. I never really cared for his playing. DJ is a much better fit for the band in my opinion.

[bailyrose]

For example listen to the solo Robin plays for you could be mine it sounds nothing to the original. With DJ he plays it pretty much the same as on the album. I believe DJ has more respect for the band he plays in than Robin ever did. Once again  my opinion.

[Sosso]

I wouldn't like to see Robin return. I never really cared for his playing. DJ is a much better fit for the band in my opinion.

Robin was perfect for the new era.

[dolphins]

You are confirming he's quit the band?  I hadn't heard that before.

I'm not confirming anything.
I'm just asking what you are guessing. You have the info he's provided and according to it he's not listing GN'R in 2015 as a current project.

He had a countdown that ended in June 2014. Coincidence that it was the end of GN'R's Las Vegas run?

If that's normal, why isn't Dj and Richard constantly dropping these kind of hints about not being in the band?


It's just common sense. I'm not confirming anything because I don't know. Once there's plans for the band to regroup, will he be there? I don't know.

But I'm not the one "complaining" about having to guess. If I have to guess, I know what my guess is based on his actions.




/jarmo

Haha got caught out there Jarmo, you 'not' confirming anything. That will be front page news in the Malibu Times/Tribune/Local/Media tomorrow!! 
What line of work do you do when not on tour with the band? I'm sure you don't just sit at home in between touring.

Maybe you're bringing out your own brand of hot sauces!!! 

[dolphins]

I hope he has gone , he just doesn't belong on a big stage playing to thousands of people !! He looks like he should be a guitar teacher at college or something , no image or GnR attitude , a boring drip , if they made any videos he hasn't got what it takes to be a rock god to stand next to Axl !
I think he's a nerd . He's a widdler no feeling in his playing . Anyway just my opinion but I really hope he has gone !

Well you're entitled to your opinion but I don't agree with you at all. I think he's been a great asset to the band or he wouldn't have been in it for 6? years. Plus he's a really nice bloke, I'd hate to see a replacement for him as he's been great to the fans with his sense of fun. On stage he's full on the whole time.

Just my opinion though. 

[sky dog]

I don't know the guy personally so I will refrain from judging him on that level. I do know he is a helluva live guitarist and the band was tight as shit in 2014. Personally, I think the band was at a higher, more consistent level the majority of the time than Axl. Ron's faithful rendition of Estranged was spot on and his outro solo on TWAT during the Vegas shows was f'n epic. He will be missed in a live setting. 

Going forward, Gnr seems to be an open book right now. We could see a few new faces (or old?) on stage the next time Axl decides to tour. 

[jarmo]

Haha got caught out there Jarmo, you 'not' confirming anything. That will be front page news in the Malibu Times/Tribune/Local/Media tomorrow!! 

Not really. Just pointing out that guessing isn't that hard considering what we know.



/jarmo

[EmilyGNR]

Extrapolating with the information available, I don't see the answer as too complicated, other than for the deluded people that still see him as a nice guy and not a passive aggressive manipulator.

[dolphins]

Haha got caught out there Jarmo, you 'not' confirming anything. That will be front page news in the Malibu Times/Tribune/Local/Media tomorrow!! 

Not really. Just pointing out that guessing isn't that hard considering what we know.



/jarmo

Yeah damm shame if they announce he's gone for good. As a favour from another fan he rushed through getting backstage passes for 3 of us after a concert, a total surprise for us. He stayed with us the whole time, chatting and joking while other members were in and out. Tried the hot sauce & gave me a couple of hugs knowing how tough life has been for me and how special that night was to get out and let myself go. 

Watching him fooling around with other fans makes me realise he's the only one who does all that, I'm sure the others are nice people but you don't find many photos of them with fans. He makes me laugh with his expressions even when he's being serious. I'd really like to see him remain a part of the band even if it's not full time. Time will tell.  

[GeorgeSteele]

I don't know the guy personally so I will refrain from judging him on that level. I do know he is a helluva live guitarist and the band was tight as shit in 2014. Personally, I think the band was at a higher, more consistent level the majority of the time than Axl. Ron's faithful rendition of Estranged was spot on and his outro solo on TWAT during the Vegas shows was f'n epic. He will be missed in a live setting. 

Exactly.  While I don't totally disagree with how his recent actions have been characterized here, fuck if I care, all I know for sure is that the guy can play balls out.

[EmilyGNR]

I don't know the guy personally so I will refrain from judging him on that level. I do know he is a helluva live guitarist and the band was tight as shit in 2014. Personally, I think the band was at a higher, more consistent level the majority of the time than Axl. Ron's faithful rendition of Estranged was spot on and his outro solo on TWAT during the Vegas shows was f'n epic. He will be missed in a live setting. 

Exactly.  While I don't totally disagree with how his recent actions have been characterized here, fuck if I care, all I know for sure is that the guy can play balls out.

Nobody is debating he is talented, the fact is he was a liability with an overblown ego.

[LongGoneDay]

I don't know the guy personally so I will refrain from judging him on that level. I do know he is a helluva live guitarist and the band was tight as shit in 2014. Personally, I think the band was at a higher, more consistent level the majority of the time than Axl. Ron's faithful rendition of Estranged was spot on and his outro solo on TWAT during the Vegas shows was f'n epic. He will be missed in a live setting. 

Exactly.  While I don't totally disagree with how his recent actions have been characterized here, fuck if I care, all I know for sure is that the guy can play balls out.

Nobody is debating he is talented, the fact is he was a liability with an overblown ego.

Yea, Guns N' Roses is no place for overblown egos.

[GeorgeSteele]

I don't know the guy personally so I will refrain from judging him on that level. I do know he is a helluva live guitarist and the band was tight as shit in 2014. Personally, I think the band was at a higher, more consistent level the majority of the time than Axl. Ron's faithful rendition of Estranged was spot on and his outro solo on TWAT during the Vegas shows was f'n epic. He will be missed in a live setting. 

Exactly.  While I don't totally disagree with how his recent actions have been characterized here, fuck if I care, all I know for sure is that the guy can play balls out.

Nobody is debating he is talented, the fact is he was a liability with an overblown ego.

I don't see how a talent as great as his can be a liability.  He probably does have an overblown ego but that nor any other personal shortcomings he may have factor in any way to my enjoyment of what he brings to the band musically.  Shouldn't the music be what matters most?

[JAEBALL]

I don't know the guy personally so I will refrain from judging him on that level. I do know he is a helluva live guitarist and the band was tight as shit in 2014. Personally, I think the band was at a higher, more consistent level the majority of the time than Axl. Ron's faithful rendition of Estranged was spot on and his outro solo on TWAT during the Vegas shows was f'n epic. He will be missed in a live setting. 

Exactly.  While I don't totally disagree with how his recent actions have been characterized here, fuck if I care, all I know for sure is that the guy can play balls out.

Nobody is debating he is talented, the fact is he was a liability with an overblown ego.

I don't see how a talent as great as his can be a liability.  He probably does have an overblown ego but that nor any other personal shortcomings he may have factor in any way to my enjoyment of what he brings to the band musically.  Shouldn't the music be what matters most?

Yeah but what music? Other band members have testified he is NOT INVOLVED in the process!

The opinions on Ron are really running the gauntlet.. some people think he is a sweet heart... and some people think he is all of a sudden the devil reincarnated...

I think the bottom line is... he is just not a fit for this operation going forward... probably for more reasons than we can count.

[GeorgeSteele]

I don't know the guy personally so I will refrain from judging him on that level. I do know he is a helluva live guitarist and the band was tight as shit in 2014. Personally, I think the band was at a higher, more consistent level the majority of the time than Axl. Ron's faithful rendition of Estranged was spot on and his outro solo on TWAT during the Vegas shows was f'n epic. He will be missed in a live setting. 

Exactly.  While I don't totally disagree with how his recent actions have been characterized here, fuck if I care, all I know for sure is that the guy can play balls out.

Nobody is debating he is talented, the fact is he was a liability with an overblown ego.

I don't see how a talent as great as his can be a liability.  He probably does have an overblown ego but that nor any other personal shortcomings he may have factor in any way to my enjoyment of what he brings to the band musically.  Shouldn't the music be what matters most?

Yeah but what music? Other band members have testified he is NOT INVOLVED in the process!

The opinions on Ron are really running the gauntlet.. some people think he is a sweet heart... and some people think he is all of a sudden the devil reincarnated...

I think the bottom line is... he is just not a fit for this operation going forward... probably for more reasons than we can count.

What music?  He did contribute to CD, which contributions were obviously worthwhile if Axl decided it was important to include them.  Also, his live playing is beyond incredible.  I know at this point we all want a new album more than a new tour, but let's not ignore the importance of being able to put on a great show.  Anyway, point is I don't care if he's a good or bad guy (unless he's eating babies or something), the guy's a great guitarist, so his shoes would be tough to fill. 

[Sosso]

CD was mainly a Robin/Buckethead/Tobias album. Fortus and Bumblefoot just finished some incomplete parts.

[JAEBALL]

I don't know the guy personally so I will refrain from judging him on that level. I do know he is a helluva live guitarist and the band was tight as shit in 2014. Personally, I think the band was at a higher, more consistent level the majority of the time than Axl. Ron's faithful rendition of Estranged was spot on and his outro solo on TWAT during the Vegas shows was f'n epic. He will be missed in a live setting. 

Exactly.  While I don't totally disagree with how his recent actions have been characterized here, fuck if I care, all I know for sure is that the guy can play balls out.

Nobody is debating he is talented, the fact is he was a liability with an overblown ego.

I don't see how a talent as great as his can be a liability.  He probably does have an overblown ego but that nor any other personal shortcomings he may have factor in any way to my enjoyment of what he brings to the band musically.  Shouldn't the music be what matters most?

Yeah but what music? Other band members have testified he is NOT INVOLVED in the process!

The opinions on Ron are really running the gauntlet.. some people think he is a sweet heart... and some people think he is all of a sudden the devil reincarnated...

I think the bottom line is... he is just not a fit for this operation going forward... probably for more reasons than we can count.

What music?  He did contribute to CD, which contributions were obviously worthwhile if Axl decided it was important to include them.  Also, his live playing is beyond incredible.  I know at this point we all want a new album more than a new tour, but let's not ignore the importance of being able to put on a great show.  Anyway, point is I don't care if he's a good or bad guy (unless he's eating babies or something), the guy's a great guitarist, so his shoes would be tough to fill. 

Yes... He "contributed" to it, but Richard and DJ both stated he is no longer involved in the writing process for Guns n Roses music... what else is there to say after that ?

Does he perform at a high level in concert? Yes. But so did Buckethead before him and other (ha) GNR guitarists before him...I'm sure somebody else can play mr Brownstone to our liking.

He doesn't like the way GNR does business.. and Axl probably couldn't give two shits if he likes it or not...

So probably both parties are better off going their separate ways. That's all.

[D-GenerationX]

Yeah, this seems unsalvageable.  Best to end it.