Goodbye Ron (???)

[jarmo]

Do you think she has been particulary good with the fans?  Can you give us any examples?  As you so often remind us, you are there and we are not.

Yes.

Well you personally got some web streams of shows thanks to this management.


The other things they do for fans doesn't get Tweeted, Instagrammed or posted online.




/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

Do you think she has been particulary good with the fans?  Can you give us any examples?  As you so often remind us, you are there and we are not.

Yes.

Well you personally got some web streams of shows thanks to this management.


The other things they do for fans doesn't get Tweeted, Instagrammed or posted online.




/jarmo

I have read and heard they are very friendly to the fans at the shows, backstage etc.

As far as how they feel about the online fans... Yeah... I'm sure they are not as warm and fuzzy towards them/us. As in anything perception is reality.

Is that fair? No, but they are public figures now, so it goes with the territory.

[D-GenerationX]

The other things they do for fans doesn't get Tweeted, Instagrammed or posted online.

Then they are useless.  They should not be brought up as "proof" of anything if its all so hush-hush.  

Anecdotal evidence is rarely considered legit as it can not be proven or disproven.  And also convenient as, wouldn't you know it, this unverifiable stuff backs you up to the hilt and shreds the people you are beefing with.

How about that?  Sometimes, I guess you just get lucky.

[D-GenerationX]

As far as how they feel about the online fans... Yeah... I'm sure they are not as warm and fuzzy towards them/us. As in anything perception is reality.

Is that fair? No, but they are public figures now, so it goes with the territory.

Yep.

And look, some of the stuff thrown her way is not relevant.  Like all the housekeeper jokes.

But legitimate questions, like how their communication is dogshit, those are legit beefs.  They aren't nuisance questions because you'd rather not answer them, and know that your boss isn't going to care if you don't.

[jarmo]

I have read and heard they are very friendly to the fans at the shows, backstage etc.

There you go.

As far as how they feel about the online fans... Yeah... I'm sure they are not as warm and fuzzy towards them/us. As in anything perception is reality.

The online fans? I'm one of them. Funny how I don't share these feelings.
Neither do most regular online fans. The ones who do are often the ones who have a bunch of negative opinions. Weird.

Then they are useless.  They should not be brought up as "proof" of anything if its all so hush-hush.  

Well I'm sure somebody as clever as yourself could think of something. Considering what I get accused of all the time....




/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

I have read and heard they are very friendly to the fans at the shows, backstage etc.

There you go.

As far as how they feel about the online fans... Yeah... I'm sure they are not as warm and fuzzy towards them/us. As in anything perception is reality.

The online fans? I'm one of them. Funny how I don't share these feelings.
Neither do most regular online fans. The ones who do are often the ones who have a bunch of negative opinions. Weird.









/jarmo

Come on you are not a fan... haha...

You really believe that? If you poll'd everybody who posts on the 5 biggest sites ... you think they vote yay or nay on TB?

I'd guess it's nay... Not saying it's right, just likely.

[D-GenerationX]

Then they are useless.  They should not be brought up as "proof" of anything if its all so hush-hush.  

Well I'm sure somebody as clever as yourself could think of something. Considering what I get accused of all the time....

Wouldn't it make them look good?  What's the upside of all the secrecy?

[D-GenerationX]

You really believe that? If you poll'd everybody who posts on the 5 biggest sites ... you think they vote yay or nay on TB?

I'd guess it's nay... Not saying it's right, just likely.

They would only get support here, and even then, only from about half of us.

[jarmo]

You really believe that? If you poll'd everybody who posts on the 5 biggest sites ... you think they vote yay or nay on TB?

I'd guess it's nay... Not saying it's right, just likely.

These forums are full of people who believe the things people constantly repeat.

Wouldn't it make them look good?  What's the upside of all the secrecy?

Well if you're nice to somebody, somebody else might get jealous/offended or start demanding the same. 
If your brother got something as a kid, you wanted the same. That's how it is. It's life.




/jarmo

[Spirit]

Just something I noticed... Bumblefoot has un-followed both Axl and GNR on twitter.

[D-GenerationX]

Just something I noticed... Bumblefoot has un-followed both Axl and GNR on twitter.

PROVES NOTHING

[Spirit]

Just something I noticed... Bumblefoot has un-followed both Axl and GNR on twitter.

PROVES NOTHING

Still in limbo then... 

[TheBaconman]

Just something I noticed... Bumblefoot has un-followed both Axl and GNR on twitter.

PROVES NOTHING

Still in limbo then... 

Someone else got his plaque and he is pissed

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

Just something I noticed... Bumblefoot has un-followed both Axl and GNR on twitter.

PROVES NOTHING

LOL.

Public unfollowing is so hooray for tollerance!

[reayj2003]

He follows everyone..unfollowing Axl & GN'R would seem a pretty definite response. In other news I like his new song 'little brother' a lot.

[sofine11]

Hmm.  Unfollowing Axl & Guns seems a bit petty.  Looks like there's some bad blood there.

Side thought:  I have a feeling that last year when Ron played bits of Argentinian Tango for fans, a song now slated for his solo album, and stated that he wanted to use it for a Guns N' Roses album...I kinda get the feeling he did that knowing full well it wouldn't be used in Guns, in an effort to trump up interest in his solo effort.  Lame.

[Ali]

Hmm.  Unfollowing Axl & Guns seems a bit petty.  Looks like there's some bad blood there.

Side thought:  I have a feeling that last year when Ron played bits of Argentinian Tango for fans, a song now slated for his solo album, and stated that he wanted to use it for a Guns N' Roses album...I kinda get the feeling he did that knowing full well it wouldn't be used in Guns, in an effort to trump up interest in his solo effort.  Lame.

I guess the question is, "did Ron and the rest of the band know that the focus was going to be on the second half of Chinese for the next release?"

If the answer is yes, then he it would be a reasonable inference to make that "Argentinian Tango" has good chance of not making the album.

Ali

[sofine11]

Hmm.  Unfollowing Axl & Guns seems a bit petty.  Looks like there's some bad blood there.

Side thought:  I have a feeling that last year when Ron played bits of Argentinian Tango for fans, a song now slated for his solo album, and stated that he wanted to use it for a Guns N' Roses album...I kinda get the feeling he did that knowing full well it wouldn't be used in Guns, in an effort to trump up interest in his solo effort.  Lame.

I guess the question is, "did Ron and the rest of the band know that the focus was going to be on the second half of Chinese for the next release?"

If the answer is yes, then he it would be a reasonable inference to make that "Argentinian Tango" has good chance of not making the album.

Ali

I think he knew pretty full well that the next Guns release was going essentially be the second half of Chinese Democracy.  He's even made several kind of disparaging comments about it over the last few years.  My favorite was what I believe was a Facebook post basically stating "If a new GNR album comes out soon, it's gonna be with guys that haven't been in the band for 5 years..." I forget what the exact wording was, but it came off extremely pouty.

[Ali]

Hmm.  Unfollowing Axl & Guns seems a bit petty.  Looks like there's some bad blood there.

Side thought:  I have a feeling that last year when Ron played bits of Argentinian Tango for fans, a song now slated for his solo album, and stated that he wanted to use it for a Guns N' Roses album...I kinda get the feeling he did that knowing full well it wouldn't be used in Guns, in an effort to trump up interest in his solo effort.  Lame.

I guess the question is, "did Ron and the rest of the band know that the focus was going to be on the second half of Chinese for the next release?"

If the answer is yes, then he it would be a reasonable inference to make that "Argentinian Tango" has good chance of not making the album.

Ali

I think he knew pretty full well that the next Guns release was going essentially be the second half of Chinese Democracy.  He's even made several kind of disparaging comments about it over the last few years.  My favorite was what I believe was a Facebook post basically stating "If a new GNR album comes out soon, it's gonna be with guys that haven't been in the band for 5 years..." I forget what the exact wording was, but it came off extremely pouty.

I honestly don't recall that, but will take your word for it.

If that is the case, then I would also have to wonder what the purpose would be in touting it as a potential GN'R song.

Ali

[Spirit]

He follows everyone..unfollowing Axl & GN'R would seem a pretty definite response. In other news I like his new song 'little brother' a lot.

It was OK I thought.

Curious about the rest of the album.