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Quote from: Ali on October 01, 2014, 06:04:10 PM
I certainly disagree with your assessment.
Don't you always?
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Quote from: Ali on October 01, 2014, 06:04:10 PM
I certainly disagree with your assessment.
Don't you always?
No, not always.
But, in this case, it seems clear to me that the comments you excluded are important and can change the view of BBF's overall perspective.
At the very least, it is certainly not pure criticism from BBF, however polite and constructive it may be. He clearly acknowledges that dealing with GN'R is different than dealing with his own solo ventures.
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One question. If Ron is out the band WHY does he not just tell everyone?
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Quote from: reayj2003 on October 02, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
One question. If Ron is out the band WHY does he not just tell everyone?
It's not confirmed that he's out. I personally don't think he is. I think the reason he's not publicly addressing it is because he wants to focus only on his solo work right now and just needs a vacation from all things GNR, whether that's touring, dealing with management or having to deal with endless GNR related rumors.
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Quote from: reayj2003 on October 02, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
One question. If Ron is out the band WHY does he not just tell everyone?
It's not confirmed that he's out. I personally don't think he is. I think the reason he's not publicly addressing it is because he wants to focus only on his solo work right now and just needs a vacation from all things GNR, whether that's touring, dealing with management or having to deal with endless GNR related rumors.
I think it's a couple things things in play...
1) If he is walking away (and all the evidence leans towards he is)... what is he walking away from... they don't write and record as a group because everything they might release is a decade old and there's no tour dates scheduled... so if he is not under a contract of some type... there really is nothing to announce walking away from.
and 2) Since there is no reason to announce his departure from anything... Doesn't it help his solo efforts if he is Bumblefoot of GNR compared to just Bumblefoot?
How many people here knew his name before that first night at Hammerstein? Raise ur hands..... nobody huh?
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I had never heard of him.
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Quote from: reayj2003 on October 02, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
One question. If Ron is out the band WHY does he not just tell everyone?
It could be there's a non-disclosure agreement where all parties agree not to discuss. Who knows. His contract could have come to an end in June (on the infamous tweet date), and now there's an undisclosed period of time where he's not allowed to talk about it (except for giving past-tense interviews). In any event, he probably doesn't want to blow the doors off because maybe there's a possibility he re-ups.
Honestly, he's not really doing anything new. We've never really heard from Robin, Bucket, Brain, Paul, etc. on why they left.
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No, but we knew they left.
Whether or not I knew about Ron before he joined GN'R does not matter... I know him now and think he's great.
I hope the line up stays the same.
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Quote from: Ginger King on October 02, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: reayj2003 on October 02, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
One question. If Ron is out the band WHY does he not just tell everyone?
It could be there's a non-disclosure agreement where all parties agree not to discuss. Who knows. His contract could have come to an end in June (on the infamous tweet date), and now there's an undisclosed period of time where he's not allowed to talk about it (except for giving past-tense interviews). In any event, he probably doesn't want to blow the doors off because maybe there's a possibility he re-ups.
Honestly, he's not really doing anything new. We've never really heard from Robin, Bucket, Brain, Paul, etc. on why they left.
It's all blind speculation, but if I was a betting man, yeah, I'd bet non-disclosure agreement.
I don't follow other bands or other music in general...is anything this band does commonly seen in the music business? I'd like to know.
Seems to me like following GNR is like looking at a Salvador Dali painting...in the middle of a sea of floating funhouse mirrors...in dim lighting...with one foot set firmly in reality and the other floating in the twilight zone.
Ron seems like a great guy. Axl seems like a great guy.
Somebody get these guys together and just let them make music.
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I've come to the conclusion that Ron is just leaving the door open. If Gn'R plans to tour in 2015 he's not going to join as he's told management that he's dediciating the next year to his solo thing. If GN'R decides to start writing new material he'd love to participate. Question is, would it be too late for him by then.
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Quote from: 14 Yrs Of Silence on October 02, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
I've come to the conclusion that Ron is just leaving the door open. If Gn'R plans to tour in 2015 he's not going to join as he's told management that he's dediciating the next year to his solo thing. If GN'R decides to start writing new material he'd love to participate. Question is, would it be too late for him by then.
I would agree.
I just think its no longer that GNR comes first. Meaning, if something comes up down the line and he's got the time free, he'd do it. But I think the days of him cancelling his own stuff or being told to keep his calendar open for a call that might not even come are over.
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Well Ron's use of language, from two interviews so far, is fairly irrefutable and can only mean two things:
A/ Ron has indeed quit Guns N' Roses, or,
B/ Ron needs a lesson in English grammar, playing particularly attention to his usage of the past and perfect tenses.
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Quote from: mortismurphy on October 03, 2014, 02:13:38 PM
Well Ron's use of language, from two interviews so far, is fairly irrefutable and can only mean two things:
A/ Ron has indeed quit Guns N' Roses, or,
B/ Ron needs a lesson in English grammar, playing particularly attention to his usage of the past and perfect tenses.
At this point, it's likely B, or C) nothing has been finalized or decided.
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Quote from: D-GenerationX on October 03, 2014, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: 14 Yrs Of Silence on October 02, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
I've come to the conclusion that Ron is just leaving the door open. If Gn'R plans to tour in 2015 he's not going to join as he's told management that he's dediciating the next year to his solo thing. If GN'R decides to start writing new material he'd love to participate. Question is, would it be too late for him by then.
I would agree.
I just think its no longer that GNR comes first. Meaning, if something comes up down the line and he's got the time free, he'd do it. But I think the days of him cancelling his own stuff or being told to keep his calendar open for a call that might not even come are over.
Exactly. But I think if Axl called him to the studio to help write and record new material, he'd be there. He just has gotten to the point where he doesn't want to wait anymore. Can't blame him at all. He wants what we want.
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Holy sh-t...just saw Bumblef--ks bit on Swearnet.com...hillarious! If you've ever wanted to see Ron pantsless in a Hello Kitty sweater you should check it out. What a good sport. Hope all is well and works out with the whole GnR thing.
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Well, if Ron stays great. If he leaves, then maybe they'll finally ask me to join the band.
Of course, I can only play the jug, so we'll need to work out some new material.
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I know this great little jug band, they need a guitar player too.
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http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-bumblefoot-to-focus-on-his-solo-career-ive-tried-to-do-both-and-its-been-really-difficult/
I guess it's official now. Dammit!
I really loved Ron's guitar playing. Hope they find someone capable to replace him. Not that they need to, Richard and DJ could easily do the guitar work between the two of them.
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Quote from: Koskenkorvasieni on December 18, 2014, 12:45:45 AM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-bumblefoot-to-focus-on-his-solo-career-ive-tried-to-do-both-and-its-been-really-difficult/
I guess it's official now. Dammit!
I really loved Ron's guitar playing. Hope they find someone capable to replace him. Not that they need to, Richard and DJ could easily do the guitar work between the two of them.
Did you actually watch the video interview?
He just said he's focused on his solo career right now. Which is exactly what he's been doing for the last six months. GN'R have no upcoming activities, so there are no conflicts to even consider at this point. I don't see what has really changed.
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Whoops.
Flash player isn't working at my workplace computer, so I couldn't watch the video. Thanx for setting it straight.
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