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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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For touring I think it is easiest to go with guys that know each other and know the music
For touring there is no real baggage. All the musicians in the band are pros and don't have to be friends to play the gigs
That's the best reason for keeping him, I think. His role in the live show.
You really can't talk all that seriously about concerns for new albums, but tours at least happen. And he's a big part of that live show.
I would keep the guy for the live shows. Where no baggage is really involved
When it comes down to writing a new album. I would find someone else
a). ron quit... he wasn't fired. You cant keep a guy who doesn't want to be there.
b) why would you want one guy for a tour and a different guy to write a new album ...
Some people are better at touring. Become people are better at just writting and recording within the dynamics of the band, that Axl has made
Perfct example is Paul huge. Who wrote and was a large componen to the album CD. But wasnt made for touring. Where is Ron is actually very good live and perfect for the live show. But for whatever reason axl has no use for him for live recordings
And I don't know if ron quit per say. I would say it was more that his contract ran out and both him and guns managment couldn't come to terms with a new one
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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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Quote from: JAEBALL on April 30, 2015, 08:53:55 AM
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For touring I think it is easiest to go with guys that know each other and know the music
For touring there is no real baggage. All the musicians in the band are pros and don't have to be friends to play the gigs
That's the best reason for keeping him, I think. His role in the live show.
You really can't talk all that seriously about concerns for new albums, but tours at least happen. And he's a big part of that live show.
I would keep the guy for the live shows. Where no baggage is really involved
When it comes down to writing a new album. I would find someone else
a). ron quit... he wasn't fired. You cant keep a guy who doesn't want to be there.
b) why would you want one guy for a tour and a different guy to write a new album ...
Some people are better at touring. Become people are better at just writting and recording within the dynamics of the band, that Axl has made
Perfct example is Paul huge. Who wrote and was a large componen to the album CD. But wasnt made for touring. Where is Ron is actually very good live and perfect for the live show. But for whatever reason axl has no use for him for live recordings
And I don't know if ron quit per say. I would say it was more that his contract ran out and both him and guns managment couldn't come to terms with a new one
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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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Quote from: jarmo on April 30, 2015, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: LongGoneDay on April 30, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Musicians with a desire to produce/release new material aren?t long for Guns N? Roses.
Dj has managed to do both, Tommy as well. Richard and Dizzy.....
While Ron as in the band, he managed to release music and produce Poc (anybody remember her?).
/jarmo
I've heard from numerous people that he did a lot more than just produce her, any truth to that? Her live stream was a bit inappropriate as well, with Ron walking around in a towel.
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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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For touring I think it is easiest to go with guys that know each other and know the music
For touring there is no real baggage. All the musicians in the band are pros and don't have to be friends to play the gigs
That's the best reason for keeping him, I think. His role in the live show.
You really can't talk all that seriously about concerns for new albums, but tours at least happen. And he's a big part of that live show.
I would keep the guy for the live shows. Where no baggage is really involved
When it comes down to writing a new album. I would find someone else
a). ron quit... he wasn't fired. You cant keep a guy who doesn't want to be there.
b) why would you want one guy for a tour and a different guy to write a new album ...
Some people are better at touring. Become people are better at just writting and recording within the dynamics of the band, that Axl has made
Perfct example is Paul huge. Who wrote and was a large componen to the album CD. But wasnt made for touring. Where is Ron is actually very good live and perfect for the live show. But for whatever reason axl has no use for him for live recordings
And I don't know if ron quit per say. I would say it was more that his contract ran out and both him and guns managment couldn't come to terms with a new one
I realize that certain people are better suited for different things... but if im putting together a "band" ... I WANT the people creating songs to perform them as well.
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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 01, 2015, 07:51:41 AM
Quote from: jarmo on April 30, 2015, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: LongGoneDay on April 30, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Musicians with a desire to produce/release new material aren?t long for Guns N? Roses.
Dj has managed to do both, Tommy as well. Richard and Dizzy.....
While Ron as in the band, he managed to release music and produce Poc (anybody remember her?).
/jarmo
I've heard from numerous people that he did a lot more than just produce her, any truth to that? Her live stream was a bit inappropriate as well, with Ron walking around in a towel.
I'm gunna go out on a limb... and say Ron is not the first, only or last guy in GNR to fool around... ha
Not that it's anybodys business.
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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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Quote from: JAEBALL on May 01, 2015, 08:42:55 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 01, 2015, 07:51:41 AM
Quote from: jarmo on April 30, 2015, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: LongGoneDay on April 30, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Musicians with a desire to produce/release new material aren?t long for Guns N? Roses.
Dj has managed to do both, Tommy as well. Richard and Dizzy.....
While Ron as in the band, he managed to release music and produce Poc (anybody remember her?).
/jarmo
I've heard from numerous people that he did a lot more than just produce her, any truth to that? Her live stream was a bit inappropriate as well, with Ron walking around in a towel.
I'm gunna go out on a limb... and say Ron is not the first, only or last guy in GNR to fool around... ha
Not that it's anybodys business.
Others were putting forth scenarios invented from what they know, I decided to do the same.
If he didn't want it to be anyone's business maybe he shouldnt have paraded around in the towel on her podcast? Pretty blatant.
I didn't care for Ron's schtick about pointing at the watch, don't care for his publicly airing his issues and won't be folliwing him or buying any of his products or releases.
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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 01, 2015, 07:51:41 AM
Quote from: jarmo on April 30, 2015, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: LongGoneDay on April 30, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Musicians with a desire to produce/release new material aren?t long for Guns N? Roses.
Dj has managed to do both, Tommy as well. Richard and Dizzy.....
While Ron as in the band, he managed to release music and produce Poc (anybody remember her?).
/jarmo
I've heard from numerous people that he did a lot more than just produce her, any truth to that? Her live stream was a bit inappropriate as well, with Ron walking around in a towel.
I'm gunna go out on a limb... and say Ron is not the first, only or last guy in GNR to fool around... ha
Not that it's anybodys business.
Others were putting forth scenarios invented from what they know, I decided to do the same.
If he didn't want it to be anyone's business maybe he shouldnt have paraded around in the towel on her podcast? Pretty blatant.
I didn't care for Ron's schtick about pointing at the watch, don't care for his publicly airing his issues and won't be folliwing him or buying any of his products or releases.
Yeah I think I remember reading you state that before.....
Ron = bad guy
He wasn't a good fit for GNR and it's best that they part ways.
He hasn't taken his omerta seriously... so therefore everybody hates him now. Got it.
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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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Quote from: JAEBALL on May 01, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
He hasn't taken his omerta seriously... so therefore everybody hates him now. Got it.
In my opinion, he hasn't even taken the real heat yet.
That comes once Axl eventually weighs in.
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Quote from: JAEBALL on May 01, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
He wasn't a good fit for GNR and it's best that they part ways.
I thought he was more than a good fit. Great player, nice to the fans. The shows were amazing.
But in the end, the square peg won't fit in a round hole.
/jarmo
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Quote from: jarmo on May 01, 2015, 12:06:38 PM
Quote from: JAEBALL on May 01, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
He wasn't a good fit for GNR and it's best that they part ways.
I thought he was more than a good fit. Great player, nice to the fans. The shows were amazing.
But in the end, the square peg won't fit in a round hole.
/jarmo
I agree about him as a player and his interactions with the fans.
But lets be honest... he was too opinionated on how things should go for the powers at be.
He came off in a way where he didn't acknowledge that he wasn't a partner... although deep down he must have known that.
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Re: Goodbye Ron (???)
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Quote from: JAEBALL on May 01, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 01, 2015, 09:15:33 AM
Quote from: JAEBALL on May 01, 2015, 08:42:55 AM
Quote from: EmilyGNR on May 01, 2015, 07:51:41 AM
Quote from: jarmo on April 30, 2015, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: LongGoneDay on April 30, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Musicians with a desire to produce/release new material aren?t long for Guns N? Roses.
Dj has managed to do both, Tommy as well. Richard and Dizzy.....
While Ron as in the band, he managed to release music and produce Poc (anybody remember her?).
/jarmo
I've heard from numerous people that he did a lot more than just produce her, any truth to that? Her live stream was a bit inappropriate as well, with Ron walking around in a towel.
I'm gunna go out on a limb... and say Ron is not the first, only or last guy in GNR to fool around... ha
Not that it's anybodys business.
Others were putting forth scenarios invented from what they know, I decided to do the same.
If he didn't want it to be anyone's business maybe he shouldnt have paraded around in the towel on her podcast? Pretty blatant.
I didn't care for Ron's schtick about pointing at the watch, don't care for his publicly airing his issues and won't be folliwing him or buying any of his products or releases.
Yeah I think I remember reading you state that before.....
Ron = bad guy
He wasn't a good fit for GNR and it's best that they part ways.
He hasn't taken his omerta seriously... so therefore everybody hates him now. Got it.
Unlike certain others here, I don't pretend to speak for "everyone" or have any delusions of grandeur.
Only stating my feelings on the matter.
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Quote from: JAEBALL on May 01, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
I agree about him as a player and his interactions with the fans.
But lets be honest... he was too opinionated on how things should go for the powers at be.
He came off in a way where he didn't acknowledge that he wasn't a partner... although deep down he must have known that.
All I was saying that in one way it was pretty good, but then you look at it from another angle and maybe it's not as good.
Hence the square peg metaphor.
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Quote from: jarmo on May 01, 2015, 12:06:38 PM
Quote from: JAEBALL on May 01, 2015, 09:41:24 AM
He wasn't a good fit for GNR and it's best that they part ways.
I thought he was more than a good fit. Great player, nice to the fans. The shows were amazing.
But in the end, the square peg won't fit in a round hole.
/jarmo
I like BBF, he was very pleasant, sincere & down to earth for the time I spent with him after a concert. He will be a sad loss to the band but that's just my opinion. He did all the fun things like taking a camera and filming for someone who was streaming a concert, took video of the crowd after the concert for a tour & interacts really well with fans.
Obviously I don't know what he's like to work with but from a fan's perspective I have only good memories of him and his wife and will continue to follow them in his music career and hope to see him performing and maybe meeting up with him again for a chat.
Like Beta you get to find them very pleasant and happy to chat if you take an interest in them, not ask questions about Axl. Beta was very forthcoming in my interest in her previous job, her country and I wish we had more time to chat about her life as we had a lot in common with our type of work.
BBF if you read this I will stay loyal and look forward to hearing your music - sad to not see you on stage any more.
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Hopefully this gets straightened out soon....
William: Briefly focusing on your career with Guns N? Roses, there have been rumors that the band will release a new studio album later this year. What can you say about the group?s latest material?
Bumblefoot:
I have no info whatsoever about GN?R. There?s nothing. Anything you?re going to ask me is going to be ?I don?t know.? I?ve gotta? (laughs) I?m sorry.
William: Is it really under so much regulation that you can?t even discuss it?
Bumblefoot:
I know. Literally, I have no info.
http://musicenthusiastmag.com/bumblefoot-new-album-art-of-anarchy-interview-2015/
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He's promoting all his solo stuff and they ask about GN'R.... Didn't they get the memo? He's focusing on his solo stuff!
And if there's a choice between that and GN'R, he's choosing the former. That's what he said.
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The media think he's still in the band. They're going to continue to ask him about GN'R.
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on May 08, 2015, 02:26:27 PM
The media think he's still in the band. They're going to continue to ask him about GN'R.
Why can't he just say GNR is on "hiatus". I am not sure what the future holds for them and for me. Any questions related to GNR you need to email or contact Beta Lebeis at this address because she is the only human alive with any ind of clue.
It seems so simple actually.
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Or before the interview: Please don't ask about GN'R, I'm focusing on my solo career.
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Quote from: jarmo on May 08, 2015, 02:38:10 PM
Or before the interview: Please don't ask about GN'R, I'm focusing on my solo career.
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I wouldnt be surprised if he does say that before the interview... and then they hang up on him.
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At some point management has to announce what is really going on.
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