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« on: June 18, 2014, 10:40:34 AM »

(uncirculated yet) transfered and edited proberly with uncensored audio and bonus......


....it's coming Wink
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2014, 03:58:42 PM »

Nice ! I love your work Limulus,and I have a lot of it.
Is the tracker down for maintenance ?
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2014, 05:57:43 PM »

so, hurry up then!

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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2014, 11:22:31 PM »

Sooooooooooooooo, we have a tuesday today, well....in New York still though, so i kinda fullfilled my promise to release it on a tuesday 2014   Grin

here it is:
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2102881#post2102881




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Title: "Ritz Destruction!!"
       [Version #2: +1% Sharpness]

February 02, 1988 - The Ritz, New York, USA


DVD Author: Limulus

***released Tuesday(!) 12/30/2014 on The Trader's Den***


Source:
Video: (PRO) Geffen Promo VHS (NTSC, SP Mode)
Audio: (SBD) LPCM

Video Transfer:
Geffen Promo VHS (NTSC, SP Mode) -> DV/PC -> Vegas 10.0 -> dED -> Maestro -> NTSC DVD, 720 x 480 8,1 MB/sec variable (2pass encoding)
(VHS Transfer = Tuesday(!!) May 27, 2014)

Audio Transfer:
Mixed from several Westwood One silvers (-> EAC/WAV), Promo VHS, "Silver Bullet" bootleg (-> EAC/WAV) -> LPCM to get the best and most complete unedited audio parts.


Total Filesize: 4,35gb (hell yeah!!)

Set (59:12 minutes):
01) Intro
02) It's So Easy
03) Mr. Brownstone
04) Intro/Out Ta Get Me
05) Sweet Child O' Mine
06) My Michelle
07) Knockin' On Heaven's Door
08) Welcome To The Jungle
09) Band Introduction + Slash Talking
10) Nightrain
11) Paradise City
12) Rocket Queen + Outro

Bonus (5:28 minutes):
13) Mama Kin

Notes:
- new release 12/30/2014 (Tuesday!)!
- this is some very nice quality from the real classic GN'R! if you're looking for a sweet little version out of the 40 (or so) circulating GN'R/Ritz'88 versions....you better get this one!
  Near mint promo vhs, very high quality equipment and settings have been used for the transfer and editing. Also exact transfer details known (more on that little later as, writing this info right now, i'm short in time).
- HUGE thanks to Troccoli [http://www.troccolitm.com/], the owner from this nice promo vhs, thank you a lot for borrowing and all the waiting time!!!! Thanks a lot to "Rockphantom" for helping out with Westwood One silvers!
- no official audio/video in the menus or within the show
- intro + menu audio = parts from some more rare drum machine demos; Nightrain, Mr. Brownstone, Sweet Child O' Mine (Pasha 8/1986), all speed corrected.
- no commercials within the show
- no tv logo within the show
- no logos within the show!
- motion menus included
- show ticket, promo vhs pic and nice stage pic included in the intro/menus
- video dED: image centering, 4x black borders editing, small brightness fixing, +1% sharpness filter. no color editing, they're already sooo nice as they are.
- audio dED: just synching, crossfading, fading in/out, volume adjustment, NO EQ!
- about the audio: there doesnt seem to be a full unedited version, all the different copies do have edits here and there. even the "unedited VHS" circulating has a few "F-word-edits".
  it appears that Westwood One did multitracks from the show and, in post-show-editing, turned down the volume from the vocal track for the F-words. as a result those parts couldnt be fixed perfectly and will stay so until some high quality release, re-broadcast or leak will happen (which is very unlikely).
  also it seems that they did mix the show/band in mono but added stereo fan audio with different sound volume on the different releases. that also couldnt be crossfaded perfectly, you still can hear that in some parts, but nothing to do about.
- there is about 1-2 seconds video trouble in the beginning of "Rocket Queen" and could not be fixed - but it isnt disturbing at all as no frames got lost, and its wayyyy better than on the Version #1/SA XP transfer (for possible upcoming bootlegs from this "free fan release"....this would be the part for verifying the source)
- this was a very time consuming project. i needed 7(!) seperate transfers to get the best (= this!) one out of this more than 26 years old vhs!
- Mama Kin is not on the Promo VHS, this "bonus clip" is sourced from an unedited VHS (lower quality) SA SP transfer but mainly overdubbed with Westwood One audio,
  this song originally was played before Rocket Queen.
- This is freeware!
- There are 3 versions from this promo vhs:
  Version 1 = SA XP transfer with compressed vhs audio and wrong resolution video, this is circulating for many months
  Version 2 = +1% Sharpness  (= this one!)
  Version 3 = No Sharpness (to be released January 06 (Tuesday!!), 2015 on the gnr tracker)

- Requests: 1985-1993 GN'R uncirculated video/audio + master/gen1 upgrades

Happy Fuckin' New Year, Fuckers!!!
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2014, 07:59:59 AM »

Nice work.

So, is it better quality than my mono VHS recording with commercial breaks that I taped from a cable channel in the 80s? Wink




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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2014, 12:40:10 PM »

Hehe, yes, sir  Wink

Seriously, this is about the best to come out from a 26(!) year old vhs source. IMO only an official release straight from the master source or an unedited DVB-S tv re-broadcast would top this.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2015, 04:54:29 AM »

So, as promised, since tuesday(!) Jan 06, 2015 the 3rd version from GN'R Ritz'88 (Promo VHS), the "Non Sharpness-Filter"-version is on free torrent on the GN'R tracker:

http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/trac...5813deccc82cc9

(you might have to sign up there)

whats different?
- the 1% sharpness filter (which makes a huge difference in details but also makes the overall image little more grainy) is disabled, so you'll get more of a purist/unedited version imagewise
- one audio fix is on there (in the end of "Paradise City" on V.2 i've missed that the silver audio doesnt have the Axl mic throwing sound, so i edited in the vhs audio in that part which had the sound)
- little other intro (one other pic + dvd title)
- "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" is starting 1-2sec more early in the show timeline than on V.2

Is it really needed? Well, for the purists i'd say so. i do like the sharpness version more, but didnt want to bury the more unedited image version. you can decide!
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2015, 03:09:01 AM »

Glad I could help!   beer
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2015, 08:45:55 PM »

Wow this is crazy good!!! I rocked this out on the surround system and shook the house!! Thanks so much guys  beer
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2015, 03:58:10 PM »

Can anyone tell me if we have mp3 from this yet?
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 04:17:49 PM »

there are FLACs from version #3 on the gnr tracker:

http://www.chinesedemocracy.com/tracker/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=b9a844abf3ec5de12de8e2884a188e503b547f87
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2015, 01:13:09 AM »


Sweet! Thank you very much
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