Tommy: "We want to make a new album, it's a good time"

[D-GenerationX]

Pretty sure he didn't mean a live album.   


But if Universal is putting out the DVD/Blu-ray, maybe that could mean things between band and label are better?




/jarmo

Was thinking the same thing.  Hopefully, the label is acutely aware of what a great opportunity all the activity that is going on this spring will afford GNR and do their part to keep the momentum going. 

There's still a lot of time left in 2014, and a lot of finished music that could use their support.

There is. 

And few bang on about a new album more than I, I have to be fair here.  They are going to spend a lot of time this year on the road.  If they didn't want to finish up on the road and get right in the studio to rush something out for Christmas, I can't kill them for it.

Now, can they come off the road, take some time to de-compress and then get to work?  And maybe have this thing ready by next spring?  Yes, that, they can do.  And thinking they can do that is not at all unreasonable.

[JAEBALL]

Hey ... if they get me the DVD and I can catch one show at some point (hopefully Bethlehem) with a new song maybe... i cant complain bout nuthin else for 2014...

an album.... seems unrealistic... but you never know

[D-GenerationX]

Yeah, agreed.

There does reach a point where you sound greedy.  Everything I hear in the works for this year sounds great.  You can't just ignore all that.

[JDA]

Why is it bad to want an album of new material?  It's been almost 6yrs.  I still love the band and am excited about all the stuff coming up, but I want new music to listen to.  That's ok. 

[bicycle handgrenade]

Who said it was bad to want an album of new material? Don't think I've seen anyone say that ever.

[D-GenerationX]

Why is it bad to want an album of new material?  It's been almost 6yrs.  I still love the band and am excited about all the stuff coming up, but I want new music to listen to.  That's ok. 

Well, I obviously agree.

But a consistent talking point is that if you want a new album...and then get word they they are playing some shows on the far side of the world...you are "never happy" if that doesn't knock your socks off.

The fact the two things have nothing to do with each other?  No matter.  Its just more "complaints, complaints, complaints" from your kind.  Some "fan" you are, mister.

[JAEBALL]

You must learn the secret of life that Jarmos has taught all of us... talking about wanting a new album gets you nowhere   

[jarmo]

You must learn the secret of life that Jarmos has taught all of us... talking about wanting a new album gets you nowhere   

No, the secret of life is to not login onto a fan site every day complaining that you don't have a new album today either. 
Maybe you'll be a happier fan if you can just go with the flow and not let that one thing ruin your daily existence as a GN'R fan.




/jarmo

[JAEBALL]

You must learn the secret of life that Jarmos has taught all of us... talking about wanting a new album gets you nowhere   

No, the secret of life is to not login onto a fan site every day complaining that you don't have a new album today either. 
Maybe you'll be a happier fan if you can just go with the flow and not let that one thing ruin your daily existence as a GN'R fan.




/jarmo

I wasn't complaining...

making a joke about JDA's post... chill out man

[jarmo]

Me too. Hence the smilies. 

I'm not seriously trying to help people with their mental states. Not qualified for that. 



/jarmo

[Ja5oN]

How about no "New Albulm" and just finish and release a couple songs via itunes (or whatever).  I think the "Album" is too big of a concept....and apparently they don't make as much $$$$ as they did in the past anyway.  Just finish two songs, get them out, play them, tour and make $$$$.  People would go crazy for Atlas and Silkworms finished and released or somthing like that.

Just keep the Machine rolling !!

[jarmo]

Yeah, we can come up with release ideas all day long. It can be interesting to brainstorm, shoot ideas back and forth and so on.

But the reality still remains, Guns N' Roses are signed to a record company. They are not always interested in what's best for the artists and/or their fans... Unfortunately.
So if they don't see the point in releasing singles instead of albums, they won't.

Nobody here would say no to something like a new song every month of the year. But I bet the record company would rather put all those songs onto an album and sell it instead...



/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

Yeah, we can come up with release ideas all day long. It can be interesting to brainstorm, shoot ideas back and forth and so on.

But the reality still remains, Guns N' Roses are signed to a record company. They are not always interested in what's best for the artists and/or their fans... Unfortunately.
So if they don't see the point in releasing singles instead of albums, they won't.

Nobody here would say no to something like a new song every month of the year. But I bet the record company would rather put all those songs onto an album and sell it instead...

But does Axl?

[sofine11]

Yeah, we can come up with release ideas all day long. It can be interesting to brainstorm, shoot ideas back and forth and so on.

But the reality still remains, Guns N' Roses are signed to a record company. They are not always interested in what's best for the artists and/or their fans... Unfortunately.
So if they don't see the point in releasing singles instead of albums, they won't.

Nobody here would say no to something like a new song every month of the year. But I bet the record company would rather put all those songs onto an album and sell it instead...

But does Axl?

::crickets::

[D-GenerationX]

Yeah, I don't really expect a serious answer.

We all know the answer, but few seem willing to say it out loud.  The best you get is a "we don't know that" or something similar.

[jarmo]

Umm. The fact is that we don't know. You can belittle it as much as you want. It's a fact!
But it's not a popular answer for some of you. What's wrong with facts?

You're assuming things, yet your assumptions are as good as the next person's. Your assumptions are based on history, so because they didn't do something, it must mean Axl doesn't want to. Correct?

If that's the case, you're confusing not wanting to do something with not having the opportunity to do something. Not always the same thing...  For example, it's difficult for most people to ski in July (northern part of the world). Does that mean they don't want to once the first snow arrives? 




/jarmo

[D-GenerationX]

Umm. The fact is that we don't know. You can belittle it as much as you want. It's a fact!
But it's not a popular answer for some of you. What's wrong with facts?

It has nothing to do with "facts".  As usual, its your selective take on the merits of speculation.

Speculation that Axl is not interested in doing anything new, backed up by years of inactivity : dangerous and irresponsible

Speculation he's working like mad to get something new out to us, not backed up by anything : A-OK

Come on, guy.  You are taking people to task for a practice you don't like, then using that same practice to tell them they are wrong.  Its crazy time.

If there is a silver lining here, you could point to the DVD that he at least tried to get in our hands.  That alone would lend credence to the idea he hasn't totally given up.  It doesn't put us any closer to the next album (if there even is one) but does refute, at least somewhat, he will never release anything again.

[jarmo]

That's funny.

Your example is extreme.

I said, just because you didn't do something, doesn't mean you don't want to. How do you prove that to be wrong? You can't.
You can only repeat: But he didn't....

And yes, you're right about the movie. They want to get it out. But they couldn't premiere it next month.



/jarmo

[Ali]

Yeah, we can come up with release ideas all day long. It can be interesting to brainstorm, shoot ideas back and forth and so on.

But the reality still remains, Guns N' Roses are signed to a record company. They are not always interested in what's best for the artists and/or their fans... Unfortunately.
So if they don't see the point in releasing singles instead of albums, they won't.

Nobody here would say no to something like a new song every month of the year. But I bet the record company would rather put all those songs onto an album and sell it instead...

But does Axl?

He hasn't said anything on the subject of singles vs. albums.

I think it's moot point what his opinion is.  Even if he wanted to just put out singles or EPs periodically, instead of full length LPs, he doesn't have the freedom to do so being contracted to UMG.

Ali

[D-GenerationX]

He hasn't said anything on the subject of singles vs. albums.

I think it's moot point what his opinion is.  Even if he wanted to just put out singles or EPs periodically, instead of full length LPs, he doesn't have the freedom to do so being contracted to UMG.

Yes, but the overall point was that he does not seem terribly interested in either.

So before we go too far down the rabbit hole of what form the label would like to release new products in, I think first we need to figure out if Axl is even interested in doing it at all.

Last we heard on the matter was his chat 5 years ago where he said "don't know, don't care" when asked about future releases.  That, combined with no news of anyone doing anything towards a new album...well, that doesn't fill one with great optimism he's super pumped to get something out there.

If we can agree we are specuating either way (which I would say is accurate) the reality is that there is more in the "con" column than the "pro" column.