2014 Baseball season/Off Season Discussion

[tim_m]

The didi move from the Yanks is just a head scratcher. They had that type of player already under contract. His biggest benefit is...hes cheap?

They have, literally, no offense. The bullpen does them no good if they are losing every game 2-0.

They need an entirely new infield. Tex can stay for his defense. Everyone else currently on the infield roster should be replaced, or playing off the bench. Terrible.

I honestly expect the Yanks to see their first year in the cellar of the al east in a long time.

They are also not filling that stadium with their current projected lineup....

Yep i'm afraid we're in for an extended period of really bad teams like in the 80s.

[Falcon]

The didi move from the Yanks is just a head scratcher. They had that type of player already under contract. His biggest benefit is...hes cheap?

They have, literally, no offense. The bullpen does them no good if they are losing every game 2-0.

They need an entirely new infield. Tex can stay for his defense. Everyone else currently on the infield roster should be replaced, or playing off the bench. Terrible.

I honestly expect the Yanks to see their first year in the cellar of the al east in a long time.

They are also not filling that stadium with their current projected lineup....

Yep i'm afraid we're in for an extended period of really bad teams like in the 80s.

I don't think it'll get that bad but they've got teams in the division that have passed them (for now) for sure.

Their drafts and sub par player development system over the past 10-15 years have caught up to them, couple that with some really bad long term deals with FA's and that's tough to overcome.

[tim_m]

The didi move from the Yanks is just a head scratcher. They had that type of player already under contract. His biggest benefit is...hes cheap?

They have, literally, no offense. The bullpen does them no good if they are losing every game 2-0.

They need an entirely new infield. Tex can stay for his defense. Everyone else currently on the infield roster should be replaced, or playing off the bench. Terrible.

I honestly expect the Yanks to see their first year in the cellar of the al east in a long time.

They are also not filling that stadium with their current projected lineup....

Yep i'm afraid we're in for an extended period of really bad teams like in the 80s.

I don't think it'll get that bad but they've got teams in the division that have passed them (for now) for sure.

Their drafts and sub par player development system over the past 10-15 years have caught up to them, couple that with some really bad long term deals with FA's and that's tough to overcome.

Probably not quite that bad but there is gonna be some very lean years ahead for sure. We have pitching and that will keep us in games but you can't win if you can't score.

[pilferk]

The didi move from the Yanks is just a head scratcher. They had that type of player already under contract. His biggest benefit is...hes cheap?

They have, literally, no offense. The bullpen does them no good if they are losing every game 2-0.

They need an entirely new infield. Tex can stay for his defense. Everyone else currently on the infield roster should be replaced, or playing off the bench. Terrible.

I honestly expect the Yanks to see their first year in the cellar of the al east in a long time.

They are also not filling that stadium with their current projected lineup....

Yep i'm afraid we're in for an extended period of really bad teams like in the 80s.

I don't think it'll get that bad but they've got teams in the division that have passed them (for now) for sure.

Their drafts and sub par player development system over the past 10-15 years have caught up to them, couple that with some really bad long term deals with FA's and that's tough to overcome.

The funny thing is...the player development HASN'T been that bad. The bigger problem has been hanging on to them, snd not trading them away. Especially young arms. People forget some of the arms that were in the yanks farm system (like  Ian kennedy) who ended up traded away. I mean....gardner, robertson, hughes ( who played well for Detroit), austin jackson.....they've had good mlb talent come through that system!

But their current mnor league system is definitely empty....the cupboard is bare. Thats part of the problem...

[pilferk]

And..the Yanks sign...Chase Headly.

It's not a terrible move...but it ISN'T going to help their anemic offense, and combined with the Didi move...well, it's not good..  This infield is going to hit like wet noodles......

I totally understand NOT going out and signing every big free agent bat on the market.  But..surely we could find ONE player to play in the infield who's better than a .225 to .250 hitter?

Blech.....

Tex at 1st, Martin Prado at 2nd, Didi at SS, Headly at 3rd, McCann catching.  That infield is....defensively good, offensively poor (and I think that's being kind).

About the only positive is we can pretty much be assured that Arod (if he plays) is being pegged as a DH.

[pilferk]

I'm now convinced that Brian Cashman has actually begun to allow chimps to make their personell decisions.

On no planet is Prado/Phelps for Garrett/Eovaldi a good trade for them, performance wise.

Unless they have some sort of plan to sign a big bat to play 2nd base....this makes zero sense to me.  You downgrade in every possible category, AND Garett doesn't play 2nd (he plays RF and 1B) by making that trade.  It's only positive function is that it dumps payroll. Brendan Ryan playing 2nd is not a "good option" at this point...

What the serious fuck??

[tim_m]

I'm now convinced that Brian Cashman has actually begun to allow chimps to make their personell decisions.

On no planet is Prado/Phelps for Garrett/Eovaldi a good trade for them, performance wise.

Unless they have some sort of plan to sign a big bat to play 2nd base....this makes zero sense to me.  You downgrade in every possible category, AND Garett doesn't play 2nd (he plays RF and 1B) by making that trade.  It's only positive function is that it dumps payroll. Brendan Ryan playing 2nd is not a "good option" at this point...

What the serious fuck??

Only thing i can think of is he's getting ready for a serious rebuilding.

[faldor]

I'm now convinced that Brian Cashman has actually begun to allow chimps to make their personell decisions.

On no planet is Prado/Phelps for Garrett/Eovaldi a good trade for them, performance wise.

Unless they have some sort of plan to sign a big bat to play 2nd base....this makes zero sense to me.  You downgrade in every possible category, AND Garett doesn't play 2nd (he plays RF and 1B) by making that trade.  It's only positive function is that it dumps payroll. Brendan Ryan playing 2nd is not a "good option" at this point...

What the serious fuck??

Seemed like an odd move to me too. Prado is a nice little player. Maybe they'll make a run at Asdrubal Cabrera? They have retooled their rotation to be much younger over the last few years, and that was somewhat needed. Sounds like they're pretty high on Eovaldi and think they can make him into a better pitcher. Make him miss a few more bats. He seems to have the stuff to do it. But I agree, that offense is filled with question marks.

[tim_m]

I'm now convinced that Brian Cashman has actually begun to allow chimps to make their personell decisions.

On no planet is Prado/Phelps for Garrett/Eovaldi a good trade for them, performance wise.

Unless they have some sort of plan to sign a big bat to play 2nd base....this makes zero sense to me.  You downgrade in every possible category, AND Garett doesn't play 2nd (he plays RF and 1B) by making that trade.  It's only positive function is that it dumps payroll. Brendan Ryan playing 2nd is not a "good option" at this point...

What the serious fuck??

Seemed like an odd move to me too. Prado is a nice little player. Maybe they'll make a run at Asdrubal Cabrera? They have retooled their rotation to be much younger over the last few years, and that was somewhat needed. Sounds like they're pretty high on Eovaldi and think they can make him into a better pitcher. Make him miss a few more bats. He seems to have the stuff to do it. But I agree, that offense is filled with question marks.

That's an understatement lol. Unless he has something good up his sleeve its another year at least of no playoffs.

[Falcon]

The Yankees just made the best off season move of any team in the big leagues.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24907425

[tim_m]

The Yankees just made the best off season move of any team in the big leagues.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24907425

Major props to them for that.

[tim_m]

Well looks like we won't have Kuroda next year. It appears he's opted to return to Japan.

[pilferk]

Well looks like we won't have Kuroda next year. It appears he's opted to return to Japan.

I'm not surprised.  There were pretty strong rumors to that effect, late last year: That he wanted to pitch one more year, in Japan, and then retire.

[tim_m]

Now we've made another pitching trade with the Padres. Has Cashman forgotten offense and defense are part of baseball as well?

[pilferk]

Now we've made another pitching trade with the Padres. Has Cashman forgotten offense and defense are part of baseball as well?

It sure seems that way.

Not that I'm opining the loss off Banuelos.  He MAY turn into something approximating his initial projections, eventually.  But he's a guy coming back from Tommy John...it's going to be "awhile" before he's MLB ready.

The return for him is pretty much equivalent.  The two pitchers they got back are solid prospects who likely have value in the minor league system NOW, rather than whenvever Manny is ready.

But...your point is a good one: They have almost NO offense in that lineup. We'll see what they manage the rest of the off season.  Maybe this prospect loading is to use as fodder for a future bat.

[tim_m]

Now we've made another pitching trade with the Padres. Has Cashman forgotten offense and defense are part of baseball as well?

It sure seems that way.

Not that I'm opining the loss off Banuelos.  He MAY turn into something approximating his initial projections, eventually.  But he's a guy coming back from Tommy John...it's going to be "awhile" before he's MLB ready.

The return for him is pretty much equivalent.  The two pitchers they got back are solid prospects who likely have value in the minor league system NOW, rather than whenvever Manny is ready.

But...your point is a good one: They have almost NO offense in that lineup. We'll see what they manage the rest of the off season.  Maybe this prospect loading is to use as fodder for a future bat.

It could be that's why he's loading up on the prospects to get some offense. He better do something quick cause spring training is fast approaching.

[Falcon]

....quick cause spring training is fast approaching.

Time for pilf to start the 2015 season discussion thread!

[tim_m]

....quick cause spring training is fast approaching.

Time for pilf to start the 2015 season discussion thread!

yep less than 100 days to pitchers and catchers report.

[Falcon]

....quick cause spring training is fast approaching.

Time for pilf to start the 2015 season discussion thread!

yep less than 100 days to pitchers and catchers report.

T minus 40 something and counting!

Feb 19 for the Cards
Feb 20 for the Yanks

[pilferk]

As requested, I present the 2015 thread!!

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=66094.new#new