no, the point was that -right before i jumped in this discussion- people werent crediting Slash for much or any work during UYI tours, and that's just plain WRONG.
Here's what was written, and you subsequently responded right after:
I would think the problems would be when you are trying to talk to him about business shit or something coming up, and the guy is wrecked. At its like 3PM.
Annoyance and resentment are going to be natural reactions.
And you're going to feel put upon (that you are now stuck being clear headed and making
the business decisions), too. All while you're watching the people who are supposedly your partners "having fun" while you're left doing the "work".
Not saying that's what was happening..I don't know...but if it was, and I was the one expected to be doing the work, I'd be pretty pissed off.
Was the specific reference to "business" stuff not enough context? Because thats what was being discussed...not the "out front" stuff. THAT was the point.
It might not have been YOUR point..but then I'm not sure why the tangent started.
he provenly did most of the "out front work" (nice term by the way!). all the other work we dont have stronger evidence about who did what exactly.
You provided a good bit of evidence by pointing out the Doug seemed to be taking his direction from Axl, mostly.
is it possible Axl did more of the "behind the scenes"-work? sure! is it possible that Slash didnt do anything of that? i highly doubt that.
Your basis for "doubt" isn't any more, or less, founded in speculation than the rest of the "what if" going on here, right?
his ego got very big aswell during UYI, it's hard to imagine him not wanting to take also care of behind-the-scenes-work.
I think its very easy to imagine, considering that typically that stuff is soul suckingly awful, with very little "glory". I suppose some people might like it..but it's far easier to imagine trying to avoid it at all costs. ESPECIALLY given we know that Slash and Duff were fucked up most of the time...hardly the best time to be making life altering, career defining business decisions.
he had to sign much off anyway, unfortunately he got outtricked with the name issue - which intentions are some evil in the 1st place and which is smth. we havent discussed too much IMO.
Tricked? How so?
He signed a contract. And not under duress (as he claimed). And he had somewhere between 24 hours and 30 days (depending on the instrument(s)/documents he signed) "cooling off" period where he could have rescinded. And he didn't.
Don't make it more than it is: A bad business decision. And one he entered into with eyes open, just like any other contract. Hard to argue he was "fooled".
By the looks of things, Axl got the name because Niven tried to coordinate a coup, and get Axl fired. Axl found out about it, and outmaneuvered him. Didn't trick anybody...just did what he had to do to ensure that, if he left, so did the name. Was it a dick move? Maybe....but then I'd guess Axl thinks that what happened via Niven was a dick move, too.
anyway Slash did most of the "out front work" when the rest is as you've said:
Again, completely theorycrafting, here. Big game of "what if".
Yup, sure is.
We also know SOMEONE was doing the other "business" stuff.
And we know Izzy, Steven (before he left), Duff, and Slash were fucked up most of the time. Matt was an "employee". So was Gilby.
It's not a big, huge, leap to think the only relatively sober guy in the parnership was handling the stuff that required a somewhat clear head. Definitely not "for sure", granted. But not a huge leap.
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