Pitman interview

[rckn]

http://www.radiorock.fi/?vt=video&vid=347733,

Interesting atleast...

[rebelhipi]

i didnt know hes in finland now

good interview. and if youre reading this: I BUY RECORDS!!

hes really into that chick

[rckn]

This was last weekend.

[Princess Leia]

 They don?t rush to make an album because people don?t buy albums anymore. There aren?t record store to buy an album. Why? Because of the internet. And because people want music for free. Well it?s clearly an answer

 

[jarmo]

Another part: http://www.radiorock.fi/?vt=video&vid=347730



/jarmo

[Nytunz]

Yeah. Now i really wanna hear the new Tool stuff 

[Gavgnr]

Next release hopes dashed for the foreseeable?

[Ali]

Next release hopes dashed for the foreseeable?

For this year, certainly.  But, I don't think that has to do with Pitman or any other band member.  Ultimately, it comes down to what Axl and the label agree upon and whether or not they want to release previously recorded material or start from scratch with this lineup for the next record.  Starting from scratch would certainly take longer.

Ali

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

I've been supporting and hoping blindly for too long.  This kind of confirms that they are milking their legacy instead of trying to create a new one.  Its a real shame. 

[LunsJail]

I've been supporting and hoping blindly for too long.  This kind of confirms that they are milking their legacy instead of trying to create a new one.  Its a real shame. 

I agree, about over it

[estebanf]

This was one of the saddest things I've ever heard since Im a GNR fan.

Very, very dissapointed. I dont know if Im interested in a band that just ''goes out and play songs that people know''.

For the record, im not a hater. I've been heavily supporting and ''defendind'' this band since 2001.

And I HATE to agree with 14 Yrs Of Silence's post, but I do.

[rebelhipi]

i get his point, but that isint a reason not write new music and play it live or do something with it.
i see it as a positive thing, gives the artist more time with his music.

[jarmo]

I think Chris is talking in general terms. Artists with a big catalog of popular songs can often tour without any new material out.

They don't necessarily need to put out a new album in order to have a new tour. There's bands who do tours because they put out a compilation of their hits (I saw Depeche Mode on the Singles86-98 tour), there's bands who do tours based on old albums/tours (Iron Maiden for example just did it, The Cult are out there playing their old album in full) and there's bands who do anniversary tours.

All of the above can be done without putting out a new studio album.





/jarmo

[Ali]

I think Chris is talking in general terms. Artists with a big catalog of popular songs can often tour without any new material out.

They don't necessarily need to put out a new album in order to have a new tour. There's bands who do tours because they put out a compilation of their hits (I saw Depeche Mode on the Singles86-98 tour), there's bands who do tours based on old albums/tours (Iron Maiden for example just did it, The Cult are out there playing their old album in full) and there's bands who do anniversary tours.

All of the above can be done without putting out a new studio album.





/jarmo

Speaking of, I just saw this article about Springsteen.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/is-bruce-springsteen-on-a-never-ending-tour-20130816

Why do tours need to have clear start and stop dates? Everyone from Metallica to Elton John to Paul McCartney launches tours whenever they feel like, regardless of how recently they released a new album. Why should Springsteen be any different?

Ali

[jarmo]

I think people are still used to the old cycle of album - tour - break - album - tour.




/jarmo

[Ali]

I think people are still used to the old cycle of album - tour - break - album - tour.




/jarmo

Yes, I agree.  The thing is that was the model for so long that people are accustomed to it.  However, it seems like since the rise of P2P file sharing and digital music downloads (legal and otherwise), record sales have plummeted.  As such, less and less of artist's income comes from record sales.  The lost income has to come from some other source, so more touring, or more legs of a tour between albums is what seems to be more of the norm these days.

Ali

[LongGoneDay]

Generally, I agree. No need for clear start and stop dates, but colossal difference between the boss and GN'R.
Bruce maybe on an "endless" tour by his standards(Wrecking Ball came out March 2012), but he's got 17 albums under his belt. He continues to be a prolific songwriter, whereas GN'R's tour is another whole ballgame of endless. Axl has put out one album since '91. Bruce has put out 9. He's put out 6 albums in the time Axl has been touring with post classic lineups. That equals Axl's lifetime discography, if we generously include SI, and Lies as an LP.

Relevant bands continue to release new music, whether it lines their pockets or not.

[Ali]

Generally, I agree. No need for clear start and stop dates, but colossal difference between the boss and GN'R.
Bruce maybe on an "endless" tour by his standards(Wrecking Ball came out March 2012), but he's got 17 albums under his belt. He continues to be a prolific songwriter, whereas GN'R's tour is another whole ballgame of endless. Axl has put out one album since '91. Bruce has put out 9. He's put out 6 albums in the time Axl has been touring with post classic lineups. That equals Axl's lifetime discography, if we generously include SI, and Lies as an LP.

Relevant bands continue to release new music, whether it lines their pockets or not.

I think you're missing the point.  It wasn't about a comparison between Springsteen and GN'R.  Springsteen was just an example.  There are others.  Metallica, for one, has not released in album in nearly 5 years as well.

Ali

[estebanf]

I dont know why the word ''tour'' is present in this discussion. The big dissapointment here is knowing we will not have new music in the medium/long term. Touring has nothing to do with this. I think a lot of fans would ''tolerate'' (I dont know what is the right word to use, sorry) a big gap of time without shows if they know new music is underway. ''Playing songs the people know'' sounds like ''lets make all the money we can as long as we can with the hits from 25 years ago'' to me (because everybody knows WTTJ-ISE-MB-LALD are gonna be there in the setlist, and in that exact order, for ever and ever, but you never know with the newest music from CD)

Yeah, I know: this aint a Burger King. I think GNR's new aim is the new generation of fans who may still be interested in attending a ''greatest hits show'' from a neverending Greatest Hits Tour. I think it's pretty safe to say that the long time fans want new music, and would relegate live shows for that. Again: I know we CANT demand anything...

[estebanf]

I think people are still used to the old cycle of album - tour - break - album - tour.




/jarmo

Yes, I agree.  The thing is that was the model for so long that people are accustomed to it.  However, it seems like since the rise of P2P file sharing and digital music downloads (legal and otherwise), record sales have plummeted.  As such, less and less of artist's income comes from record sales.  The lost income has to come from some other source, so more touring, or more legs of a tour between albums is what seems to be more of the norm these days.

Ali

P2P has nothing to do with creation of new music. P2P clearly affects the sales of physical albums (compact discs, digital video discs, vinyls, etc), but with nowadays technologies you have other ways to distribute your music and still have profit. Or do you think we are experiencing ''the end of music''? Come on, normal artists still write music, and new music will pop up for ever. Just to give a familiar example: Buckethead releases 4 or 5 albums per year...