2013 Baseball Season/Off-Season Discussion

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For that much and that long he can let the door hit him in the ass on the way out. I hope he enjoys being near the bottom of a terrible AL west the next decade.

On another note the Mets have signed Granderson.

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The Red Sox signed AJ Pierzynski.

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The Granderson deal apparently is 4 years and 30 million. The Yankees also resigned Kuroda today 1 year 13 million plus incentives. Good move resigning him he's been very good as a Yankee.

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The Red Sox signed AJ Pierzynski.

Officially.

But that deal was out around the same time the ellsbury deal was happening.

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The Granderson deal apparently is 4 years and 30 million. The Yankees also resigned Kuroda today 1 year 13 million plus incentives. Good move resigning him he's been very good as a Yankee.

I heard 4 and 60 (15 per) this morning not 4 and 30 (7.5 per).  Did that recently change?

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Napoli stays with Sox per the usual suspects

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Beltran to the Yanks, 3 years 45 mil

Very similar to when the Cards scooped him up after Albert went to Anaheim.

The Cards haven't done too bad since

Great hitter, classy guy.

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Beltran to the Yanks, 3 years 45 mil

Very similar to when the Cards scooped him up after Albert went to Anaheim.

The Cards haven't done too bad since

Great hitter, classy guy.

I'm beginning to think Gardner is going to be expendable and used as bait to fill the 2B void.

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The Granderson deal apparently is 4 years and 30 million. The Yankees also resigned Kuroda today 1 year 13 million plus incentives. Good move resigning him he's been very good as a Yankee.

I heard 4 and 60 (15 per) this morning not 4 and 30 (7.5 per).  Did that recently change?

I guess i read the twitter post from Rosenthal incorrectly or he mistyped.

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Beltran to the Yanks, 3 years 45 mil

Very similar to when the Cards scooped him up after Albert went to Anaheim.

The Cards haven't done too bad since

Great hitter, classy guy.

I'm beginning to think Gardner is going to be expendable and used as bait to fill the 2B void.

I suppose they could call Cincy and see if the Reds would do Gardner for Phillips straight up, they're gonna need a CF with Choo likely on the move.

Phillips has a horrific contract and is in definite offensive decline, still slick around the bag though.

He's a bit of a jackass as well, not sure how his act would play in a clubhouse that's taking on a lot of new personalities.

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As of this moment, the Cards will receive the 42nd pick in next years draft as compensation for the Beltran signing.

Subject to change as other signings occur.

The Cards now have 4 of the first 84 picks, not bad.

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Beltran to the Yanks, 3 years 45 mil

Very similar to when the Cards scooped him up after Albert went to Anaheim.

The Cards haven't done too bad since

Great hitter, classy guy.

I'm beginning to think Gardner is going to be expendable and used as bait to fill the 2B void.

Gotta be, now. Unless the envision Beltran or Soriano as a full time DH.  And, all things considered...like The fact they have no clue if jeter can play as, and if by some miracle arods suspension is overturned they are going to need the DH dot for him ALOT, etc...I don't think that's likely.

Which sucks because, defensively, Gardner makes them a lot better. He and ellsbury out there would save a lot of runs. More, IMHO, than Beltran will produce with his bat.

We will see, I guess. Maybe convert Gardner to 2b (I'm joking...)?

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Beltran to the Yanks, 3 years 45 mil

Very similar to when the Cards scooped him up after Albert went to Anaheim.

The Cards haven't done too bad since

Great hitter, classy guy.

I'm beginning to think Gardner is going to be expendable and used as bait to fill the 2B void.

I suppose they could call Cincy and see if the Reds would do Gardner for Phillips straight up, they're gonna need a CF with Choo likely on the move.

Phillips has a horrific contract and is in definite offensive decline, still slick around the bag though.

He's a bit of a jackass as well, not sure how his act would play in a clubhouse that's taking on a lot of new personalities.

They'd want more than Gardner, even considering the contract . Grady only has one year left on his contract. He wouldn't be an expensive signing, probably....but Grady and a minor league arm might do it.

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Well it appears Cano's true colors are coming out. Apparently he didn't want to play for Girardi. Now i really hope the door not only hits him in the ass but knocks his selfish ass over.

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Well it appears Cano's true colors are coming out. Apparently he didn't want to play for Girardi. Now i really hope the door not only hits him in the ass but knocks his selfish ass over.

I bet he woulda happily played for Girardi if the Yanks woulda given him $240 million.

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Well it appears Cano's true colors are coming out. Apparently he didn't want to play for Girardi. Now i really hope the door not only hits him in the ass but knocks his selfish ass over.

I bet he woulda happily played for Girardi if the Yanks woulda given him $240 million.

Which only further proves all he cares about is the money and making himself look even more like an ass.

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Robinson Cano ?didn?t want to play for? Yankees manager Joe Girardi
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By David Brown 8 hours ago Big League Stew

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Being handed a contract for $240 million is reason enough for Robinson Cano to trade his pinstripes for a compass and play for the Seattle Mariners. But he also reportedly didn't like how he was being utilized by New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi, and is happy to be leaving the Bronx for that reason also. So much so, apparently, that he didn't even call the Yankees to give them a chance to match Seattle's big offer:

Reporter George A. King III in the New York Post has the anonymously sourced details:

 

    ?Robbie didn?t like batting second, he wanted to bat in the middle of the order,?? one person said. ?The Yankees wanted him second because that was best for the team. He wanted to hit in the middle of the order to drive in runs [to increase his value].??

    Through the middle of June, Cano shuttled between second and third in a lineup that didn?t have Derek Jeter to hit second or Rodriguez in the cleanup spot.

    For the season, Cano batted third in 110 games, hitting .319 with 16 homers, 73 RBIs and an OPS of .886. As the No. 2 hitter in 42 games, he hit .308 with 10 homers, 30 RBIs and a .955 OPS.

    ?He told me he didn?t want to play for [Girardi],?? a friend of Cano?s said.

It's not exactly the sensational stuff of a tell-all book, but it's possible that a combination of perceived slights persuaded Cano that the Yankees didn't quite want him enough, even if the money were to be equal. Being reluctant to bat him in the middle of the order; taking a public stance that they wouldn't be willing to pay him much more (relatively speaking) than outsider Jacoby Ellsbury; making Cano the issue, and not other players, in wanting to stay below the $189 million luxury tax threshold.

Did King talk to Girardi to get his side of the story ? for whatever it might be worth? It does not appear he tried. We'll hear from him in time, though.

If the Yankees really wanted Cano, if they really thought he was worth it, if they really thought he was a middle-of-the-order superstar, they wouldn't have made it seem like keeping him was so agonizing to them. So Cano thinks. Maybe.

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Here's the story, its sounding more and more like Cano is a spoiled little shit who only cared about padding his numbers. So screw him. I had respect for him but if this is the truth have fun losing in Seattle piece of crap.

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Robbie was batting second in a lineup decimated by injuries. Ideally, he would have batted 5th (behind Jeter, Granderson, Tex and Arod). But every one of those guys was on the shelf.

Blaming girardi for that is nuts. And complaining about it is, likewise, nuts.

Batting you 4th or 5th behind guys who can't hit isn't going to garner you more RBI. Because, you know, they are not going to be on base to drive them in.

Bit, look, there have always been complaints about Robbie's lack of hustle, and his questionable work ethic.  These comments don't surprise me...and don't really change anything in my assessment of him. Supremely talented, hof caliber player who is not up to being the face of the team, and not worth 10 years of ridiculous money at this point in his career.

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LaRussa, Cox and Torre to The Hall:

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- Retired managers Joe Torre, Tony La Russa and Bobby Cox have been unanimously elected to the baseball Hall of Fame by the expansion era committee.

Each of the inductees won more than 2,000 games in managerial careers that spanned more than four decades. Torre became the fifth manager to win at least four World Series titles. La Russa won championships with Oakland and St. Louis. Cox led Atlanta to one championship and 14 straight division titles.

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Reports are coming in that Roy Halladay is going retire today, at age 36.  He's going to sign a one day contract with Toronto in order to retire as a Blue Jay.

Presser should be coming soon...

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10108609/roy-halladay-retiring-monday-toronto-blue-jay