2013 Baseball Season/Off-Season Discussion

[tim_m]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1789146-twitter-reacts-to-mariano-riveras-final-appearance-at-yankee-stadium If you can watch this without shedding a tear you either can't see past your hatred for the Yankees or don't know true greatness.

[Falcon]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1789146-twitter-reacts-to-mariano-riveras-final-appearance-at-yankee-stadium If you can watch this without shedding a tear you either can't see past your hatred for the Yankees or don't know true greatness.

Man, that was cool - very fitting.

[tim_m]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1789146-twitter-reacts-to-mariano-riveras-final-appearance-at-yankee-stadium If you can watch this without shedding a tear you either can't see past your hatred for the Yankees or don't know true greatness.

Man, that was cool - very fitting.

It was great and awesome Girardi let Jeter and Pettitte do it. You just knew Rivera was gonna lose it on the mound when they came out. I can't deny it brought tears to my eyes. I can only imagine what that moment will be like for Jeter. I know his charity work and family are most important to Rivera but i hope he's around the team and is a regular at old timers day.

[pilferk]

Interesting factoid:

If Mo does not pitch another inning...or if he does not give up an earned run in the inning(s) he does pitch...he will retire with the lowest ERA in MLB history.

I know NOBODY has EVER been a unanimous selection to the HOF, but if there is ever a guy that can/will do it....it's probably going to be Mo.  Even the guys who poo poo the save have to admit his impact on history and the game.  And the guy is pure class, on the field AND off the field...I'm not sure how you vote against him and sleep at night.

First ballot, obviously.  Maybe I should start making plans for the 2019 Induction Ceremony, now.  Would be nice to visit Cooperstown with my kids....

[Drew]

I'm absoultely ready for all these "staged" farewells and goodbyes to Mariano Rivera to finally be over with. Last night's display was exaclty how staged all of this has been. The guy was a good pitcher and probably a nice guy as well. But all of this dramatic farewell makes you want to throw-up.

I've always had a problem with "attention seekers." Mariano could have simply taken the high road and said no thanks to all of this attention but he didn't. In the end, he's an attention whore like the majority of today's celebrity and althletes.

[tim_m]

I'm absoultely ready for all these "staged" farewells and goodbyes to Mariano Rivera to finally be over with. Last night's display was exaclty how staged all of this has been. The guy was a good pitcher and probably a nice guy as well. But all of this dramatic farewell makes you want to throw-up.

I've always had a problem with "attention seekers." Mariano could have simply taken the high road and said no thanks to all of this attention but he didn't. In the end, he's an attention whore like the majority of today's celebrity and althletes.

Are you fucking kidding me? If you really think that you don't know a damn thing about Rivera.

[tim_m]

Interesting factoid:

If Mo does not pitch another inning...or if he does not give up an earned run in the inning(s) he does pitch...he will retire with the lowest ERA in MLB history.

I know NOBODY has EVER been a unanimous selection to the HOF, but if there is ever a guy that can/will do it....it's probably going to be Mo.  Even the guys who poo poo the save have to admit his impact on history and the game.  And the guy is pure class, on the field AND off the field...I'm not sure how you vote against him and sleep at night.

First ballot, obviously.  Maybe I should start making plans for the 2019 Induction Ceremony, now.  Would be nice to visit Cooperstown with my kids....

It'll sure be interesting to see how that plays out. There will likely be a few who don't just cause they think nobody deserves to be unanimous. I agree though, how anyone could not vote for this man should be ashamed of themselves.

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

Interesting factoid:

If Mo does not pitch another inning...or if he does not give up an earned run in the inning(s) he does pitch...he will retire with the lowest ERA in MLB history.

I know NOBODY has EVER been a unanimous selection to the HOF, but if there is ever a guy that can/will do it....it's probably going to be Mo.  Even the guys who poo poo the save have to admit his impact on history and the game.  And the guy is pure class, on the field AND off the field...I'm not sure how you vote against him and sleep at night.

First ballot, obviously.  Maybe I should start making plans for the 2019 Induction Ceremony, now.  Would be nice to visit Cooperstown with my kids....

It'll sure be interesting to see how that plays out. There will likely be a few who don't just cause they think nobody deserves to be unanimous. I agree though, how anyone could not vote for this man should be ashamed of themselves.

It's a joke that some will not vote for Mo his first time because they feel no one should be unanimous. If some don't vote they should loss they right to vote again. I'm sure he will get in his first time at lease over 85% for sure. How can you not vote for a player who is the best ever at their position.

I was lucky to see him a few times live over the years. 
 

[Falcon]

Cards clinch the NL Central, wasn't expecting it this year.

The race isn't over yet though..

Tied with ATL for best record in NL but ATL won the season series 4-3 so they've got the tie breaker for home field - 2 more meaningful games to play.

Interesting (and semi mind blowing) stat:

38% of the Cards IP for the year were done by rookies and 20 kids made their ML debuts in all - that's just silly.

[tim_m]

Interesting factoid:

If Mo does not pitch another inning...or if he does not give up an earned run in the inning(s) he does pitch...he will retire with the lowest ERA in MLB history.

I know NOBODY has EVER been a unanimous selection to the HOF, but if there is ever a guy that can/will do it....it's probably going to be Mo.  Even the guys who poo poo the save have to admit his impact on history and the game.  And the guy is pure class, on the field AND off the field...I'm not sure how you vote against him and sleep at night.

First ballot, obviously.  Maybe I should start making plans for the 2019 Induction Ceremony, now.  Would be nice to visit Cooperstown with my kids....

It'll sure be interesting to see how that plays out. There will likely be a few who don't just cause they think nobody deserves to be unanimous. I agree though, how anyone could not vote for this man should be ashamed of themselves.

It's a joke that some will not vote for Mo his first time because they feel no one should be unanimous. If some don't vote they should loss they right to vote again. I'm sure he will get in his first time at lease over 85% for sure. How can you not vote for a player who is the best ever at their position.

I was lucky to see him a few times live over the years. 
 

I agree but even Tom Seaver only got 98.3 or something like that. I think he'll get well over 90%. Will he get the closest ever to unanimous i think is the bigger question. Either way he's going to be inducted in 2019 that is certain.

I was lucky enough to see him too several times when they'd be in town to play the Rangers. Some of those were playoff games when i was working as an usher. Those are memories i'll cherish forever. We were lucky enough to witness a once in a lifetime and maybe ever player and an even better human being. This is a player we get to tell our grandkids about that we saw one of the greatest ever and certainly the greatest closer.

[tim_m]

Cards clinch the NL Central, wasn't expecting it this year.

The race isn't over yet though..

Tied with ATL for best record in NL but ATL won the season series 4-3 so they've got the tie breaker for home field - 2 more meaningful games to play.

Interesting (and semi mind blowing) stat:

38% of the Cards IP for the year were done by rookies and 20 kids made their ML debuts in all - that's just silly.

Congrats I really thought the Pirates would hold them off. You told me they'd catch the Pirates and you were right. I'm still thrilled to see the Pirates will get a wild card with a chance to face the best team. They've been so bad for so long they deserve success for a change.
Congrats i really thought the Pirates could hold them off. You told me the Cards would come ba

[Drew]

Are you fucking kidding me? If you really think that you don't know a damn thing about Rivera.

Look at the television and the circus that's been going on for months now. And now the possibility of him playing center field? Really? This is what baseball has turned into, a circus? This entire spectacle has been embarrassing and makes the Yankees look like desperate fools. Yeah, the Yankees don't have shit to play for finishing at the bottom with the Blue Jays but let's see how we attention whores can draw more attention to us and our players. Since the Yankees aren't relevant in this years playoffs. Thursday night was so embarrassing and laughable. Everything's so planned and staged. It was like a soap opera. 'How's that for drama?'

If Mariano is so humble as so many people describe him, there would have been none of this hoopla. How many goodbye ceremonies does one need? If he does end up playing center field, MLB and the Yankees will have lost all credibility.

Than again, all this grand standing and hoopla will return next year or soon after that for Jeter's grand goodbye.

[tim_m]

Are you fucking kidding me? If you really think that you don't know a damn thing about Rivera.

Look at the television and the circus that's been going on for months now. And now the possibility of him playing center field? Really? This is what baseball has turned into, a circus? This entire spectacle has been embarrassing and makes the Yankees look like desperate fools. Yeah, the Yankees don't have shit to play for finishing at the bottom with the Blue Jays but let's see how we attention whores can draw more attention to us and our players. Since the Yankees aren't relevant in this years playoffs. Thursday night was so embarrassing and laughable. Everything's so planned and staged. It was like a soap opera. 'How's that for drama?'

If Mariano is so humble as so many people describe him, there would have been none of this hoopla. How many goodbye ceremonies does one need? If he does end up playing center field, MLB and the Yankees will have lost all credibility.

Than again, all this grand standing and hoopla will return next year or soon after that for Jeter's grand goodbye.

Whatever, you are boring me now.   

[tim_m]

Whoever thought up the 3 way tie scenario in the AL really deserves a slap. I mean Texas is still out of it but if they all end up tied the Rangers play at most one more game. The loser of Tampa/Cleveland will still have to go to Texas and play one more? They are punishing one of the two better teams. This makes no sense at all. If they all end up tied Texas should be in the game where the loser plays another game. Their path to the ALDS should be harder not easier then the two better teams.

[tim_m]

It appears Rivera is done and will never throw another meaningful pitch wanting his career to end the way it did Thursday in the Bronx. Thus ensuring he will finish with the lowest ERA in the history of baseball in the live ball era.

[tim_m]

Quite a fitting end for Pettitte in Houston tossing a complete game to get the win; only giving up a run and with that finishes his career never having a losing season. Which makes him the only pitcher in history to pitch at least 18 seasons and never have a losing season. I know it helped he played on some great Yankee teams but its still very impressive. Consider this over his final 10 starts he had an ERA of 1.93.

[Drew]

Whatever, you are boring me now.   

Just as fake, phoniness, and staged celebrations bore me.

[tim_m]

Whatever, you are boring me now.   

Just as fake, phoniness, and staged celebrations bore me.

Which only continues to prove you really know nothing at all about Rivera.

[tim_m]

Wow, final game of the season the Marlins Hernandez Alvarez tosses a no-hitter against the Tigers.

[Drew]

Which only continues to prove you really know nothing at all about Rivera.

So you'll sit there and say that Thursday nights "drama" with Jeter and Petite going out to the mound and all of the celebrations were not staged? I have a hard time believing that it all just happened.

All I'm saying if Rivera was so humble as he's made out to be, he would've taken the high road and told everyone not to make a big scene. If the fans want to give and standing ovation in every stadium, that would have been real nice and honored Rivera quite well without all of the hoopla and the staged ceremonies to "bring attention to ourselves" mentality.